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TA14 said:
I'd agree with the former but the latter? Removing a car port roof, even an asbestos one is not a big deal or big money. For the rest: ceilings and soffits most would just give a lick of paint. As for the loft I can't work out what is required. If I were buying I'd be looking to spend about a tenth of what the OP is suggesting based on what he's typed here.
From what Simon has written there are boards of some kind in the loft that contain brown asbestos and are breaking down as are the sofits. I agree the carport could probably be done as a DIY job, but would you want to decontaminate a loft or just live in a house with loose brown asbestos? I think the costs for making good are on the high side, but asbestos removal always seems to cost a bundle.By the sound of it he would not be able to buy the house even if the price were reduced because he would not have the money to do the work even with a 100% mortgage on the house. He probably would not get a 100% mortgage because of the asbestos. I used the term developer loosely to mean someone with the means to take on a house that needed a lot of money spent to 'develop' it into a habitable home.
Toltec said:
From what Simon has written there are boards of some kind in the loft that contain brown asbestos and are breaking down as are the sofits. I agree the carport could probably be done as a DIY job, but would you want to decontaminate a loft or just live in a house with loose brown asbestos? I think the costs for making good are on the high side, but asbestos removal always seems to cost a bundle.
By the sound of it he would not be able to buy the house even if the price were reduced because he would not have the money to do the work even with a 100% mortgage on the house. He probably would not get a 100% mortgage because of the asbestos. I used the term developer loosely to mean someone with the means to take on a house that needed a lot of money spent to 'develop' it into a habitable home.
He hasn't mentioned that there's anything defective regarding the soffits. I agree with you about loose brown asbestos and asbestos removal costs but heading towards £75K sounds rather dramatic even though I can't understand the extent of the problem or work required in the loft.By the sound of it he would not be able to buy the house even if the price were reduced because he would not have the money to do the work even with a 100% mortgage on the house. He probably would not get a 100% mortgage because of the asbestos. I used the term developer loosely to mean someone with the means to take on a house that needed a lot of money spent to 'develop' it into a habitable home.
As I posted a fortnight ago the OP doesn't sound like the type of person to buy this house. It's sad to hear in asbestos training courses that the main cause of abestos being released into the atmosphere is asbestos removal from buildings where it is undamaged and not causing a problem.
TA14 said:
He hasn't mentioned that there's anything defective regarding the soffits. I agree with you about loose brown asbestos and asbestos removal costs but heading towards £75K sounds rather dramatic even though I can't understand the extent of the problem or work required in the loft.
As I posted a fortnight ago the OP doesn't sound like the type of person to buy this house. It's sad to hear in asbestos training courses that the main cause of abestos being released into the atmosphere is asbestos removal from buildings where it is undamaged and not causing a problem.
Not sure where the £75k figure came from, I bandied £45-£50.As I posted a fortnight ago the OP doesn't sound like the type of person to buy this house. It's sad to hear in asbestos training courses that the main cause of abestos being released into the atmosphere is asbestos removal from buildings where it is undamaged and not causing a problem.
Anyway the soffit boards are all brown asbestos and are also broken in places, the attic / roof space has (under cloaking to roof tiles) insulating boards that are also made of brown asbestos (various broken) and my main concern with that is the open water tank in the roof space where it's already been proven that there are currently birds nesting.
The costs mentioned are because of the PPE requirements specifically for the broken brown asbestos, need the PPE to correctly dispose of it rather than just plain face masks.
The costs mentioned for repairs (rather than removal) was for the new roof insulation, new soffit boards and fascias (as was suggested that removing soffit boards can also damage fascias), new ceiling boards and plastering throughout the house.
Still waiting on cost break downs for specific work as this was just a ball park figure (that's about a week out apparently).
Simon. said:
Asbestos removal costs have come in, just removal of the impacted components is going to cost in the region of £22 - 25k (ball park figure atm because the full survey hasn't been fully typed up yet). Work to be completed in 2 / 3 weeks.
That does entail removal of all ceiling boards, car port boards, fireproof roof vent boards, soffit boards and the use of PPE for the roof space and car port work (ceilings not so bad apparently so doesn't require full PPE), also includes use of scaffolding for soffit board removals.
That doesn't include any putting right and I have been advised another £15 - 20k for that, that doesn't actually include any painting/decorating, just the replacement of ceiling boards, soffits and facias and plastering where needed - Work to be completed in... 2 - 4 weeks?
Looking like a potential 6 - 8 weeks of work before I could even contemplate moving in if we had the £45 - 50k spare cash to do the work and that obviously doesn't include any rental costs for the short term rental that I would need to move into whilst the work is carried out because I couldn't live in the property whilst said works were being carried out.
EA is talking to the seller to see if she is prepared to do something with this but I am still not holding my breath, started looking at new properties today and being honest my head is really not in it.
You are having your pants pulled there. Yes, it's notifiable work with full enclosure and air test etc, but it's not as expensive as that. That does entail removal of all ceiling boards, car port boards, fireproof roof vent boards, soffit boards and the use of PPE for the roof space and car port work (ceilings not so bad apparently so doesn't require full PPE), also includes use of scaffolding for soffit board removals.
That doesn't include any putting right and I have been advised another £15 - 20k for that, that doesn't actually include any painting/decorating, just the replacement of ceiling boards, soffits and facias and plastering where needed - Work to be completed in... 2 - 4 weeks?
Looking like a potential 6 - 8 weeks of work before I could even contemplate moving in if we had the £45 - 50k spare cash to do the work and that obviously doesn't include any rental costs for the short term rental that I would need to move into whilst the work is carried out because I couldn't live in the property whilst said works were being carried out.
EA is talking to the seller to see if she is prepared to do something with this but I am still not holding my breath, started looking at new properties today and being honest my head is really not in it.
Was it the testing co that quoted or their recommended ?
Although not unheard of to see AIB in soffitts etc, its rare.
The rest of the report is expected doer upper stuff.
I don't know your location, but can recommend highly reputable Asbestos surveyors/removers if in South East.
[Edit] Essex i see, where most of the asbestos co's are based around Basildon/South Ockenden and are complete shysters.
PM me the name of the company, and i bet i've fekked them off at one time or another.
The most reputable company closest to Essex is Franklyn Shaw in Herts, no association apart from the fact we use them a lot based on their integrity.
Edited by Eddieslofart on Wednesday 2nd August 20:00
TA14 said:
It's sad to hear in asbestos training courses that the main cause of abestos being released into the atmosphere is asbestos removal from buildings where it is undamaged and not causing a problem.
It smells wrong. Why are they quoting to remove the ceilings when they are so low risk that PPE is not required?
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