Can anyone tell me why these wooden battens are here?

Can anyone tell me why these wooden battens are here?

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danjnixon

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156 months

Monday 28th August 2017
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I've been stripping back plaster in my dining room and come across some random battens and laths built into the brickwork. It's not for a doorway (the other side of the wall is a staircase). Does anyone know why they might have been put in? Very curious.


SantaBarbara

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109 months

Monday 28th August 2017
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danjnixon said:
I've been stripping back plaster in my dining room and come across some random battens and laths built into the brickwork. It's not for a doorway (the other side of the wall is a staircase). Does anyone know why they might have been put in? Very curious.

How old is the house?

Qcarchoo

471 posts

194 months

Monday 28th August 2017
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I would guess it's around the turn of the last century.
Stud wall with brick-on-edge infill.

danjnixon

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156 months

Monday 28th August 2017
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It was built in 1906. Sorry, should have added that!

SantaBarbara

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109 months

Monday 28th August 2017
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It may have had mahogany panels on originally

Equus

16,980 posts

102 months

Monday 28th August 2017
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The bricks have been laid the 'wrong' way up (on edge). Is it just a veneer of brickwork on the inside face of an external wall?

I've seen similar things where a veneer of brickwork has been built up to try to prevent damp ingress, and the bricks are laid on edge to make them a bit thinner; in which case the battens are just a 'framework' to retain the panels of extra brick.

Otherwise, as Qcarchoo says, it's just a stud wall with brick infill (brick on edge for the same reason - to make it a bit thinner)

wolfracesonic

7,027 posts

128 months

Monday 28th August 2017
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The studs will be there for stability and the bricks laid on edge to save a bit of space: Bricks laid on edge aren't very stable, especially when built to room height, hence the studs for a bit of stability while the mortar cures; there are probably some nails knocked into the studs to act as a crude wall tie as well. The paint tin catching the water from the leaky rad valve looks like it's over flowing too!

TA14

12,722 posts

259 months

Monday 28th August 2017
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wolfracesonic said:
The studs will be there for stability and the bricks laid on edge to save a bit of space: Bricks laid on edge aren't very stable, especially when built to room height, hence the studs for a bit of stability while the mortar cures; there are probably some nails knocked into the studs to act as a crude wall tie as well.
Yep smile

danjnixon

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156 months

Monday 28th August 2017
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Amazing, thank you everyone! That's solved a problem for me - the wood is full of dry rot, so rather than treat it all and replace I can just pull down the wall and replace with a new stud wall!

And the paint tin is just there to hold up the rad pipe, that big stain is from when I removed the radiator. Luckily the carpet is getting replaced!

227bhp

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129 months

Monday 28th August 2017
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I think it was done to save on bricks and time, if an old brick was circa 4 x 3" they gained an inch on every one so laid 3 bricks instead of 4. If it was done to create a thin wall you would have only saved 1/2" per side.

The Stoke on Trent bricks have some history, aerial pic of the factory here: https://britainfromabove.org.uk/image/eaw013246

Equus

16,980 posts

102 months

Monday 28th August 2017
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227bhp said:
I think it was done to save on bricks and time, if an old brick was circa 4 x 3" they gained an inch on every one so laid 3 bricks instead of 4. If it was done to create a thin wall you would have only saved 1/2" per side.
Yes, you're probably right, come to think of it - though an extra inch makes all the difference, I'm told!

If it's a 'stud' wall carried off doubled joists (though this one looks as though its off a ground floor slab), I guess the reduction in weight is a big plus, too.

danjnixon

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156 months

Tuesday 29th August 2017
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Amazing! And great about the history of the bricks - I grew up in Stoke so ace to know.