I Owe HMRC £22k Stamp Duty

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Dicky Knee

1,034 posts

132 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
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V8RX7 said:
51mon said:
or greedy solicitors wanting to earn interest off our cash
^^^ This

Holding all the SD payments for a few weeks pays for the Xmas coke and hookers
£2.07 a week in interest on that. I guess it is Coca Cola and a snog behind the bike sheds.

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
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What did the solicitor say?

TheAngryDog

12,409 posts

210 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
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I suggest using a better a solicitor. Mine were great and I didn't need to constantly chase.

Davey S2

13,097 posts

255 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
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V8RX7 said:
51mon said:
or greedy solicitors wanting to earn interest off our cash
^^^ This

Holding all the SD payments for a few weeks pays for the Xmas coke and hookers
Wrong.

Disbursements such as SDLT have to be held in a solicitors client account and they will need to account to the client for any interest earned (which will be very little).



tleefox

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1,110 posts

149 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
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Spoke to HMRC this morning, as they were answering the phone before the solicitors! Guy said based on their records the SD had still not been paid.

Have since spoken to solicitors and long story short, they paid the money into what HMRC term a "dormant" account which they don't monitor.

Makes you wonder how much money HMRC have sat in other "dormant" accounts which they don't know about.

Funk

26,300 posts

210 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
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tleefox said:
Spoke to HMRC this morning, as they were answering the phone before the solicitors! Guy said based on their records the SD had still not been paid.

Have since spoken to solicitors and long story short, they paid the money into what HMRC term a "dormant" account which they don't monitor.

Makes you wonder how much money HMRC have sat in other "dormant" accounts which they don't know about.
The general experience with solicitors seems to be pretty poor. When I purchased the freehold for my building and extended the lease, the documents they sent back were riddled with errors - 900 years missing off the lease was a particularly good one, as was the wrong postcode. I wondered what the fk I was paying for, I did most of the sodding work correcting their mistakes!

The Moose

22,867 posts

210 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
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Funk said:
tleefox said:
Spoke to HMRC this morning, as they were answering the phone before the solicitors! Guy said based on their records the SD had still not been paid.

Have since spoken to solicitors and long story short, they paid the money into what HMRC term a "dormant" account which they don't monitor.

Makes you wonder how much money HMRC have sat in other "dormant" accounts which they don't know about.
The general experience with solicitors seems to be pretty poor. When I purchased the freehold for my building and extended the lease, the documents they sent back were riddled with errors - 900 years missing off the lease was a particularly good one, as was the wrong postcode. I wondered what the fk I was paying for, I did most of the sodding work correcting their mistakes!
Solicitors, architects, estate agents....it's so hard to find professionals who can actually get stuff right!

Jobbo

12,973 posts

265 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
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tleefox said:
Have since spoken to solicitors and long story short, they paid the money into what HMRC term a "dormant" account which they don't monitor.
Crikey, that sounds like a rubbish excuse. The 'How to pay' guidance is perfectly clear, there's only one bank account set out for receipts, and it hasn't changed in years (certainly as long as I've been making electronic SDLT payments, which is about 10 years - the accounts department forced me to send cheques before that): https://www.gov.uk/guidance/pay-stamp-duty-land-ta...

V8RX7

26,905 posts

264 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
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Davey S2 said:
Wrong.

Disbursements such as SDLT have to be held in a solicitors client account and they will need to account to the client for any interest earned (which will be very little).
I've bought and sold many properties - never had any interest credited to me.

I'm aware it's not huge sums but if you're buying homes 20 a day, it mounts up.


wibble cb

3,613 posts

208 months

Friday 17th November 2017
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V8RX7 said:
Davey S2 said:
Wrong.

Disbursements such as SDLT have to be held in a solicitors client account and they will need to account to the client for any interest earned (which will be very little).
I've bought and sold many properties - never had any interest credited to me.

I'm aware it's not huge sums but if you're buying homes 20 a day, it mounts up.
At current levels, not really.....

bga

8,134 posts

252 months

Friday 17th November 2017
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98elise said:
55palfers said:
You do realise that is more than the amount of corporation tax Cadbury paid on its profits last year, and the year before and before and before, etc..

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5071835/Ca...

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/dec/06/c...

Edited by 55palfers on Wednesday 15th November 19:49
How much should they have paid on their profits?
I venture something more closely linked to the difference between revenue and cost of doing business in the UK. The model employed by Mondelez takes the piss.

51mon

339 posts

217 months

Friday 17th November 2017
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I spoke to my solicitors and the HMRC, and it appears as though the solicitors paid the charge the day after completion (19th Sept), but HMRC have no trace of it going into their accounts!

Solicitors advise that the correct transaction number was quoted on the payment, and that it hasn't been bounced back to them.

HMRC advised that they have been in contact with the solicitors and have requested a fax showing details of the transaction. Once received, this will need to 'processed into the system', which can take up to 10 days. Surely an email would be quicker....!

I guess we just need to wait for the payment details to be traced further. I'll also be asking for a copy of the fax showing the payment details from the 19th Sept.

superlightr

12,856 posts

264 months

Friday 17th November 2017
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Dicky Knee said:
V8RX7 said:
51mon said:
or greedy solicitors wanting to earn interest off our cash
^^^ This

Holding all the SD payments for a few weeks pays for the Xmas coke and hookers
£2.07 a week in interest on that. I guess it is Coca Cola and a snog behind the bike sheds.
that much you think? you lucky lucky person getting that much interest.

We run a client account and have the interest rate at 0.01% so I make that £2.15 over a year of interest - or £0.04p a week.

We also get charged many hundreds of pounds a year to run it. joy and more joy.



superlightr

12,856 posts

264 months

Friday 17th November 2017
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V8RX7 said:
I've bought and sold many properties - never had any interest credited to me.

I'm aware it's not huge sums but if you're buying homes 20 a day, it mounts up.
20 a day at 4p a week (0.0057 a day) x 20 = £0.11p a day - phew sure does mount up.

essayer

9,082 posts

195 months

Friday 17th November 2017
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ghost83 said:
Not your problem
Glad OP is on the way to sorting it, but someone not paying tax on your behalf is always your problem!

Johnniem

2,674 posts

224 months

Friday 17th November 2017
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The Moose said:
Solicitors, architects, estate agents....it's so hard to find professionals who can actually get stuff right!
Oi! rage

And you live in the USA. Are you a 'septic' or just a displaced Brit (having moved because he was fed up with Solicitors, Architect and estate agents?!).

laugh


The Moose

22,867 posts

210 months

Friday 17th November 2017
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Johnniem said:
The Moose said:
Solicitors, architects, estate agents....it's so hard to find professionals who can actually get stuff right!
Oi! rage

And you live in the USA. Are you a 'septic' or just a displaced Brit (having moved because he was fed up with Solicitors, Architect and estate agents?!).

laugh
Don't get me started on f'ing surveyors either!

I certainly do live on the other side of the pond now yes.

But I have property in the UK (and lived in the UK for most of my life).

If it helps, they're just as st this side of the pond too!