Building a toxic free home, plastic piping on central heatin

Building a toxic free home, plastic piping on central heatin

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robinessex

11,072 posts

182 months

Saturday 3rd February 2018
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Go stainless steel. On second thoughts no, you'll probably have a heart attack re the cost!

037

1,317 posts

148 months

Saturday 3rd February 2018
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Copper underfloor heating system would be interesting

Flibble

6,476 posts

182 months

Saturday 3rd February 2018
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037 said:
Copper underfloor heating system would be interesting
Lash down a load of microbore, it'll be fine!

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 3rd February 2018
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newbie29 said:
Odd question, here goes ….trying to limit any toxins in my new build. From insulation to paint choice...flooring.

My questions relates to underfloor heating, the plastic pipe that is used is pex piping, logically thinking the pipe heats up. Does Plastic piping tend to release air bourne toxins when heated up. I hear warm water or drinking water ran through pex piping has been tested and contains toxins. Now worried about the materials used in underfloor heating pipes.

Thanks All
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boy_in_the_Plastic_Bubble

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 3rd February 2018
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This should have been dealt with by the EU REACH regulations.

Simpo Two

85,578 posts

266 months

Saturday 3rd February 2018
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Perhaps 'toxin free houses' will be the next silly fad.

B17NNS

18,506 posts

248 months

Saturday 3rd February 2018
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What a strange thing to worry about.

Oakey

27,595 posts

217 months

Saturday 3rd February 2018
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From the same OP that brought us classics like "I'm sensitive to wireless signals" and "I want to install an outdoor firepit, indoors"

Flibble

6,476 posts

182 months

Saturday 3rd February 2018
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Oakey said:
From the same OP that brought us classics like "I'm sensitive to wireless signals" and "I want to install an outdoor firepit, indoors"
rofl

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 3rd February 2018
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Your not called chuck perchance.

dudleybloke

19,867 posts

187 months

Saturday 3rd February 2018
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You need mandrel bent titanium pipework and fittings that have been manufactured in a vacume.
Anything less and you could be dead within hours.


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Eddieslofart

1,328 posts

84 months

Saturday 3rd February 2018
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Six Figs said:
Your not called chuck perchance.
That’s an odd surname !

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

256 months

Saturday 3rd February 2018
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OP...I think you're done for. Just roll over and die, it'll save you lots of pain in the long run.

Andehh

7,113 posts

207 months

Sunday 4th February 2018
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pghstochaj said:
I’m all for protecting the environment but this is really an odd question - what about the 1000s of metres of piping before it gets to you?

newbie29 said:
Odd question, here goes ….trying to limit any toxins in my new build. From insulation to paint choice...flooring.

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Can't help but agree. You are going to spend a lot of time & energy controlling something you just can't control. Not unless you have your own water purification system, green power generation system, crop system and live 1000 years ago before humans starting pumping everything we can into the atmosphere.

Edit; FWIW, in a previous life I worked in a company that created ultra ultra ultra ultra pure water (stuff that makes bottled water look like slime...). It was for military, medical, science etc.... All that was pumped round the machines in (specialist) John guest pipes & fittings! All plastic..

Edited by Andehh on Sunday 4th February 08:35

p1esk

4,914 posts

197 months

Sunday 4th February 2018
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Alucidnation said:
Flibble said:
Copper is toxic in high enough doses, it's one reason you shouldn't drink from the hot water supply, the higher heat and lower mineral contents tends to leech more copper from the piping...
I thought it was traditionally down to the fact that old cold water storage tanks in the loft were not covered and there was a possibility of dead things floating around in it, plus the chance of bacteria being present from standing water.

Hence the reason why hot water storage should be kept at 60 degrees plus to kill of the majority of bacteria that may be present.
In domestic properties old cold water storage tanks used to be galvanised steel, but they would eventually rust, so that was another contaminant.

Incidentally, I thought the idea of domestic hot water being at 60C, or a bit higher, was more to do with it being hot enough for cleaning purposes, but not hot enough to scald us. I didn't know about the bacteria aspect, but as we don't drink it, is that so important? I dunno, just asking.

Equus

16,980 posts

102 months

Sunday 4th February 2018
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p1esk said:
Incidentally, I thought the idea of domestic hot water being at 60C, or a bit higher, was more to do with it being hot enough for cleaning purposes, but not hot enough to scald us. I didn't know about the bacteria aspect, but as we don't drink it, is that so important? I dunno, just asking.
It's primarily a precaution against legionella bacteria.

p1esk

4,914 posts

197 months

Sunday 4th February 2018
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frisbee said:
Six Figs said:
frisbee said:
Copper isn't that safe.
its been used for at least a hundred years, it is as safe as they come, in the context of the ops question.


Edited by Six Figs on Saturday 3rd February 14:18
The post I was responding to stated "truly safe", copper saucepans are lined to avoid exposing food to copper and there are limits on copper in drinking water.
I thought some of the process vessels in distilleries, and maybe breweries, were fabricated from copper. Maybe their products don't count as food!

p1esk

4,914 posts

197 months

Sunday 4th February 2018
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Equus said:
p1esk said:
Incidentally, I thought the idea of domestic hot water being at 60C, or a bit higher, was more to do with it being hot enough for cleaning purposes, but not hot enough to scald us. I didn't know about the bacteria aspect, but as we don't drink it, is that so important? I dunno, just asking.
It's primarily a precaution against legionella bacteria.
OK, that makes interesting reading, thank you.