Estate Agents - Bill

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Countdown

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197 months

Tuesday 20th March 2018
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garyhun said:
Countdown said:
garyhun said:
Countdown said:
garyhun said:
Service charges are normally paid by the landlord.
I stand to be corrected but IME it's always paid by the Tenant, either as a separate charge or built into the rent.
Not my experience but happy to be corrected.
So how (or why) would the LL pay for costs such as communal heating/lighting/maintenance and major repairs out of his own pocket?
Why would building maintenance and major repairs be the responsibility of the tenant? If you rent a freehold it's still the LL's responsibility to fix the property.
I agree that they ARE the LL's responsibility but the costs are borne (either directly or indirectly) by the Tenant. So there's either a separate Service Charge (usually when there are managing agents in place) or it's built directly into the Rent

For example, the warranty repair costs for a new car might be paid by the manufacturer but they are incorporated into the initial purchase price. They're not a freebie.

Taita

7,609 posts

204 months

Tuesday 20th March 2018
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So they keep £250 of the deposit in case there are any extra bills?

When do you get the £250 back if there isn't any bills after you have moved out?!

Countdown

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Tuesday 20th March 2018
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superlightr said:
Service charge is in the name of the Leaseholder not the Tenant. It is (from my experience of being a Letting Agent and managing agent for blocks of flats) always the Landlords (Leaseholder) responsibility to pay the ground rent and service charges as that's a charge relating to owning the property not the use. His lease will confirm he is responsible.

The tenant is normally responsible for all utility bills ie gas/elec/water/council tax. His tenancy agreement will confirm the same (or not)

the terminology can confuse if not familiar with it.
Now I'm massively confused. IME the Tenant is the Leaseholder (the Landlord is the Freeholder).

FWIW I used to work in Finance for a Housing Association which had a combination of Council tenants and owner occupiers. The owner occupiers had purchased their flats through Right-to-Buy. The Council tenants paid both rent and a SC, the flat owners paid just a SC to the HA..

sc0tt

18,054 posts

202 months

Tuesday 20th March 2018
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I rent, I don’t pay the service charge.

superlightr

12,856 posts

264 months

Tuesday 20th March 2018
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Countdown said:
superlightr said:
Service charge is in the name of the Leaseholder not the Tenant. It is (from my experience of being a Letting Agent and managing agent for blocks of flats) always the Landlords (Leaseholder) responsibility to pay the ground rent and service charges as that's a charge relating to owning the property not the use. His lease will confirm he is responsible.

The tenant is normally responsible for all utility bills ie gas/elec/water/council tax. His tenancy agreement will confirm the same (or not)

the terminology can confuse if not familiar with it.
Now I'm massively confused. IME the Tenant is the Leaseholder (the Landlord is the Freeholder).

FWIW I used to work in Finance for a Housing Association which had a combination of Council tenants and owner occupiers. The owner occupiers had purchased their flats through Right-to-Buy. The Council tenants paid both rent and a SC, the flat owners paid just a SC to the HA..
You have the land owner who is the Freeholder they grant Leases to a
Leaseholder 99 years 999 years etc they have a Lease.
The leaseholder then can let out their flat to a Tenant the leaseholder is then also Landlord

The tenant has a tenancy agreement and is simply a tenant.

The leaseholder remains liable to pay ground rent and maintenance to the freeholder or their agents.
The tenant pays rent to the landlord
The tenant via the Tenancy agreement normally also pays utility bills.



Edited by superlightr on Tuesday 20th March 18:41


Edited by superlightr on Tuesday 20th March 18:41