Caterpillars killed my bush. What now?

Caterpillars killed my bush. What now?

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yellowjack

17,082 posts

167 months

Monday 9th May 2022
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PhilboSE said:
Ordered some Xentari today. Picked about 50 of the little darlings from one infected plant but they were going dormant so will start again tomorrow morning when they’re more active and visible. Still had a few trying the silky rappel to freedom.

Turns out they can’t swim.
Upon reading this assertion, I made a swimming pool for the wriggly bar stewards...
...and it seems to be correct. Within seconds of submerging them the wriggling stops, and not a single escape attempt.

Yesterday I put them into a small brazier and killed them with fire. But drowning them is simpler and doesn't annoy the neighbours. I'll order the XenTari stuff too, but until it arrives every chomping caterpillar I can dispose of will hopefully buy the hedge some recovery time...

MDifficult

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2,067 posts

186 months

Monday 9th May 2022
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I’m seriously impressed by you guys getting them off.

When mine was fully under attack it was hard to see them - then I realised it was because there were SO many. Each ‘twig’ had dozens on. Must have been a million of them!

Long run, no way I’ll be having any more box in the garden - just isn’t worth the effort.

paulw123

3,253 posts

191 months

Monday 9th May 2022
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MDifficult said:
I’m seriously impressed by you guys getting them off.

When mine was fully under attack it was hard to see them - then I realised it was because there were SO many. Each ‘twig’ had dozens on. Must have been a million of I them!

Long run, no way I’ll be having any more box in the garden - just isn’t worth the effort.
This , unless it’s a prized piece of topiary it’s not worth the effort/cost of spraying for the rest of your life. There are many substitute plants that are just as good and not affected.

T5GRF

1,979 posts

265 months

Tuesday 17th May 2022
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Does any one know a source to buy Xentari? Amazon seemed to have stopped selling it.

PhilboSE

4,391 posts

227 months

Tuesday 17th May 2022
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See above, I got some from the OnBuy link. Took around 5 days to arrive…

NMNeil

5,860 posts

51 months

Tuesday 17th May 2022
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Simple, safe and very effective treatment for just about any plant eating bug.
Add 500ml of canola oil to a plastic container. Has to be canola oil.
Add 2 tablespoons of dish soap.
Shake well to mix.
This is the base insecticide solution and will keep indefinably in a cool dry place.
When you want to use it add about 30ml of the insecticide solution to 500ml of tap water, shake and spray.
Kills the bugs and their eggs, plus it's safe, and cheap enough to use once a week.
You can also add a teaspoon of baking soda to the sprayer as this is a fungicide.
I've used it for years and it just works
Be thankful you don't have these little darlings in the UK.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XLMCeejvw8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aje4g4S_sY

PostHeads123

1,042 posts

136 months

Tuesday 17th May 2022
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This is the third year I've them and I've given up now so going to replace my box trees with something else. My box tree is the front boundary with neighbours and it's big 20ft tall approx x 35ft in length so not a minor job, they are about 2/3 of the way through it as if today. I tried most of the things but over the years they seem to have adapted a bit to get around it hiding more etc. It does recover the following years and looks ok for a month then they start appearing again.

RichB

51,691 posts

285 months

Tuesday 17th May 2022
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I've got quite a lot of box that I want to preserve including 'Topiary Ted' that we've been cultivating for something like 20 years. I sprayed with Xentari today as there were signs of the little bds on some of the box shrubs around the garden. I wonder when it will be approved for use in the UK because I assume that's why Amazon have dropped it from their product list.

ETA: Here's Topiary Ted photographed back in 2017, he's grown a bit since then! smile



Edited by RichB on Tuesday 17th May 21:02

prand

5,916 posts

197 months

Tuesday 17th May 2022
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we pulled our box up and planted Yew for a bit of hedging and topiary and some lavender in the decorative places. Mrs P spent 2-3 summers with a pair of tongs and spray to really no avail.

T5GRF

1,979 posts

265 months

Monday 23rd May 2022
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I’ve just got hold of some Xentari, the product doesn’t contain any info about what kind of area the 3 litre recommended solution would treat. I’ve checked online and the Uk site doesn’t cover it and the European site seems to be down, does anyone know the answer please?
Cheers

Simpo Two

85,652 posts

266 months

Monday 23rd May 2022
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NMNeil said:
Simple, safe and very effective treatment for just about any plant eating bug.
Add 500ml of canola oil to a plastic container. Has to be canola oil.
Ah I thought you were across the pond! We call it oilseed rape smile

ultrastapler

197 posts

156 months

Monday 23rd May 2022
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T5GRF said:
I’ve just got hold of some Xentari, the product doesn’t contain any info about what kind of area the 3 litre recommended solution would treat. I’ve checked online and the Uk site doesn’t cover it and the European site seems to be down, does anyone know the answer please?
Cheers
Says on the box One box of TOPBUXUS XenTari contains 5 individual sachets, each containing 3 grams of product; Simply dissolve the contents of 1 sachet in 3 litres of water to treat 30 square meters of Boxwood surface

RichB

51,691 posts

285 months

Monday 23rd May 2022
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ultrastapler said:
T5GRF said:
I’ve just got hold of some Xentari, the product doesn’t contain any info about what kind of area the 3 litre recommended solution would treat. I’ve checked online and the Uk site doesn’t cover it and the European site seems to be down, does anyone know the answer please?
Cheers
Says on the box One box of TOPBUXUS XenTari contains 5 individual sachets, each containing 3 grams of product; Simply dissolve the contents of 1 sachet in 3 litres of water to treat 30 square meters of Boxwood surface
Yep, been using for the last3 or 4 years and I just mix as instructed i.e. 1g/l and fill my sprayer. Then I just cover the box with the spray so it's wet but certainly don't drench it. I probably not too scientific but it has worked well.

sleepezy

1,816 posts

235 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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I think they've changed their sachet sizes - they used to be 1g / sachet mixed with 1 ltr water for 10sq mtr box.

I think they now come in 3g sachets - I have a new unopened box at home so can check - bit of a pain as I have a 2 ltr pump sprayer bought specifically for the job!

RichB

51,691 posts

285 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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sleepezy said:
I think they've changed their sachet sizes <clip>
Correct.

T5GRF

1,979 posts

265 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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Yes the satchets are now 3 grams.
The instructions provided are limited at best with no note of coverage - I now know that 1 gram will treat 10 sqm. Can the plants be sprayed when there is a risk of rain?

MattyD803

1,731 posts

66 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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We have 3 x Buxus bushes in the back garden, all of which got attacked last summer.

The first one (nearest the house) was ravaged and by the time we realised what was happening, picked off the little cretins and had treated it, it was pretty much dead. That same bush has recovered at least 70% this year.

The other 2 on the other end of the deck had only just started being attached and a real good dousing with Resolva Bug Killer (yellow bottle) saw any remaining caterpillars off. They were around 25% dead last year, but this summer are back to full health, no dead patches.

We noticed neighbours bushes getting attacked again over the last month or so, so we have sprayed the bushes again and this also seems to be keeping them at bay.

In summary - Resolva Bug Killer seems to be quite effective....but only if you catch it early smile

T5GRF

1,979 posts

265 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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Yes the satchets are now 3 grams.
The instructions provided are limited at best with no note of coverage - I now know that 1 gram will treat 10 sqm. Can the plants be sprayed when there is a risk of rain?

BoRED S2upid

19,729 posts

241 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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Replace with a hydrangea? About the same size flowers, nothing eats it that I’ve seen, pretty robust.

RichB

51,691 posts

285 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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BoRED S2upid said:
Replace with a hydrangea? About the same size flowers, nothing eats it that I’ve seen, pretty robust.
Replace what with hydrangeas?