Show us your real estate pawn (Vol 5)

[abzmike]

Wilmslowboy said:

£3m, 11 acres of Cornish lovelyness.

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/146182457#/...

Lovely patch of land but not a big house for your £3M...

[Sway]

abzmike said:

Wilmslowboy said:

£3m, 11 acres of Cornish lovelyness.

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/146182457#/...

Lovely patch of land but not a big house for your £3M...

I want to be fairly confident in how rapidly that lovely plot is disappearing too!

[thegreenhell]

Sway said:

I want to be fairly confident in how rapidly that lovely plot is disappearing too!

It's on granite bedrock, so I don't think you'd notice anything in your lifetime.

[minimoog]

May or may not be an issue but the SW Coastal Path cuts through your land and close to the house.

[pork911]

BobToc said:

Neil1300r said:

Escort3500 said:

Harry H said:

Thankyou4calling said:

That place has been the subject of an unbelievable amount of legal issues.

Yes, I wouldn't have him down as a "details" man more a a grand ideas type chap. More the type that finds it easier to ask for forgiveness than permission and from a culture where you can get round any legal issues when you grease the right palm.

Edited by Harry H on Wednesday 21st September 10:28

Googling ‘Myck Djurberg’ certainly makes for some interesting reading

I know it's massively off topic, but knowing a little about one of the cases I found this, and it amused me :

However, during the trial that lasted from 11 to 23 May 2017, the Deputy Judge formed clear views about Mr Djurberg. They are set out at paragraphs 50 to 53 of his judgment:
"50. … Mr Djurberg struck me as an unusual man, with a complex relationship with the truth … his oral evidence was largely evasive – circling questions or going off at tangents – and at times nonsensical.
51. … Mr Djurberg seemed to have a constant strategy for obfuscation, for turning the simple into the complicated and for constructing arguments and possibilities which seemed to have little relation to reality …".
52. He gave an impression of dishonesty and at least ruthlessness in wriggling away from any certainties and exploiting any perceived uncertainties. His responses to questioning seemed to regard the process as a means for assertive negotiation rather than requiring an effort to recount any genuine recollection of events

I enjoyed this in respect to a more recent case as to whether he could use the pontoons for business purposes:

[i]The court was taken to an e-mail sent by Mr Djurberg purporting to defend the use of the pontoons. One e-mail dated 19th May 2021 contained the following:

“The occasional food on the run business of Mr Golebiewski is something that he has my permission to come over weekends or bank holidays, outside the boatyard working hours, and especially in the current constrain with people out of work”

Having seemingly admitting that a food business was being operated the judge said he was “not sure what defence he is seeking to run” and that the breach was “plain as a pikestaff” having looked at the photographs.[/i]

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/houseboats-tycoon-myck-djurberg-thames-marina-fraud-jailed-b1148056.html

[TheJimi]

Today's offering from me. Again, in one of my favourite towns -

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/146106431#/...

[abzmike]

TheJimi said:

Today's offering from me. Again, in one of my favourite towns -

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/146106431#/...

Nice enough in a lovely spot, but a lot of buyers will likely need to spend a good deal of money updating.

[TheJimi]

Yeah, huge potential though - imo.

[thetapeworm]

thetapeworm said:

I mentioned earlier in the thread that my in-laws are selling and that I didn't feel the listing was very good.

The agent doesn't seem to be making the most of what's on offer in the text or showing them in photos. Weirdly the wide angle photos actually make the rooms look smaller than they are and look more cluttered.

The "features" section is woeful, there's a sauna and a large garage with a mezzanine workshop and parking for about 15 cars if you're having a party.

It's got an entire wing that can operate as a completely separate 2 bed property if needed.

They've finally corrected the number of bedrooms 2 weeks after the mistake being pointed out but the number of bathrooms is still wrong, there's typos and the formatting of the text is out and doesn't read well.

I know this isn't a feedback post but if anyone has a minute of two could you cast your eyes over this listing and give some first impression feedback I can pass on?

The floor plans cover it but surely you need the photos to wow before you head to those?

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/145217516



I think it would benefit from a video walk through or a 360 tour, maybe a couple of shots from a drone but maybe that's expecting too much?

Personally I think a new agent is needed but they're too nice to kick up a fuss and won't let me do it so I'm here trying to do something

If you're an agent in that area or have trusted friends that are I'm sure they'd welcome any assistance to sell.

I won't go on about it as a I appreciate I'm derailing the post slightly but thanks to those that offered feedback on this. I shared it, they seemed to listen but the agent doesn't seem to want to actually make an effort to sell the place and earn some commission and my in-laws aren't "fighty" enough to push them.

Despite multiple attempts and a few changes to the listing it's still incredibly poor, lacking in detail and full of mistakes. My brother-in-law took a new photo of the house for them to use as the main photo and sent it to them, they've updated this but apparently can't see any issues with the rest.

Instead of proof-reading and sorting out the mistakes on the listing and adding better photos and floor plans they've now persuaded my in-laws to just reduce the price of the house by about as much as my own house is worth because they feel it's this that's holding people back from enquiring and not the abysmal attempt to sell it for them.

My in-laws aren't helping themselves here so I've given up trying but thanks to those that offered their views.

[EBRANDON1]

https://www.themodernhouse.com/sales-list/elmbridg...

Been listed on here for a while. Basically a blank canvas on the inside but really nice looking house.

Often browse the website just to look at houses I can't afford

[Escort3500]

abzmike said:

TheJimi said:

Today's offering from me. Again, in one of my favourite towns -

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/146106431#/...

Nice enough in a lovely spot, but a lot of buyers will likely need to spend a good deal of money updating.

It’d take your overall spend up to £1m I’d imagine, but you’d have lovely place in a superb location at the end.

[thegreenhell]

Escort3500 said:

abzmike said:

TheJimi said:

Today's offering from me. Again, in one of my favourite towns -

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/146106431#/...

Nice enough in a lovely spot, but a lot of buyers will likely need to spend a good deal of money updating.

It’d take your overall spend up to £1m I’d imagine, but you’d have lovely place in a superb location at the end.

That is a massive for sale sign.

[okgo]

EBRANDON1 said:

https://www.themodernhouse.com/sales-list/elmbridg...

Been listed on here for a while. Basically a blank canvas on the inside but really nice looking house.

Often browse the website just to look at houses I can't afford

Suspect there’s something peculiar with the location given they’re not mentioning it.

[Caddyshack]

thegreenhell said:

Escort3500 said:

abzmike said:

TheJimi said:

Today's offering from me. Again, in one of my favourite towns -

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/146106431#/...

Nice enough in a lovely spot, but a lot of buyers will likely need to spend a good deal of money updating.

It’d take your overall spend up to £1m I’d imagine, but you’d have lovely place in a superb location at the end.

That is a massive for sale sign.

They are not really that big, it is just closer to you than the house :-)

[phil_cardiff]

thetapeworm said:

thetapeworm said:

I mentioned earlier in the thread that my in-laws are selling and that I didn't feel the listing was very good.

The agent doesn't seem to be making the most of what's on offer in the text or showing them in photos. Weirdly the wide angle photos actually make the rooms look smaller than they are and look more cluttered.

The "features" section is woeful, there's a sauna and a large garage with a mezzanine workshop and parking for about 15 cars if you're having a party.

It's got an entire wing that can operate as a completely separate 2 bed property if needed.

They've finally corrected the number of bedrooms 2 weeks after the mistake being pointed out but the number of bathrooms is still wrong, there's typos and the formatting of the text is out and doesn't read well.

I know this isn't a feedback post but if anyone has a minute of two could you cast your eyes over this listing and give some first impression feedback I can pass on?

The floor plans cover it but surely you need the photos to wow before you head to those?

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/145217516



I think it would benefit from a video walk through or a 360 tour, maybe a couple of shots from a drone but maybe that's expecting too much?

Personally I think a new agent is needed but they're too nice to kick up a fuss and won't let me do it so I'm here trying to do something

If you're an agent in that area or have trusted friends that are I'm sure they'd welcome any assistance to sell.

I won't go on about it as a I appreciate I'm derailing the post slightly but thanks to those that offered feedback on this. I shared it, they seemed to listen but the agent doesn't seem to want to actually make an effort to sell the place and earn some commission and my in-laws aren't "fighty" enough to push them.

Despite multiple attempts and a few changes to the listing it's still incredibly poor, lacking in detail and full of mistakes. My brother-in-law took a new photo of the house for them to use as the main photo and sent it to them, they've updated this but apparently can't see any issues with the rest.

Instead of proof-reading and sorting out the mistakes on the listing and adding better photos and floor plans they've now persuaded my in-laws to just reduce the price of the house by about as much as my own house is worth because they feel it's this that's holding people back from enquiring and not the abysmal attempt to sell it for them.

My in-laws aren't helping themselves here so I've given up trying but thanks to those that offered their views.

I'm not in the market for a £2M house in Surrey, but if I were then the advert wouldn't put me off viewing that if I really liked it. Granted it's not the best advert but maybe the agent has a point around the price?

[addey]

okgo said:

EBRANDON1 said:

https://www.themodernhouse.com/sales-list/elmbridg...

Been listed on here for a while. Basically a blank canvas on the inside but really nice looking house.

Often browse the website just to look at houses I can't afford

Suspect there’s something peculiar with the location given they’re not mentioning it.

I thought the same, saying it's in Elmbridge doesn't really narrow it down! Anyway, the Rightmove listing shows that it's on Oatlands Chase, must be hidden away off the road somewhere I guess

[thegreenhell]

addey said:

okgo said:

EBRANDON1 said:

https://www.themodernhouse.com/sales-list/elmbridg...

Been listed on here for a while. Basically a blank canvas on the inside but really nice looking house.

Often browse the website just to look at houses I can't afford

Suspect there’s something peculiar with the location given they’re not mentioning it.

I thought the same, saying it's in Elmbridge doesn't really narrow it down! Anyway, the Rightmove listing shows that it's on Oatlands Chase, must be hidden away off the road somewhere I guess

It's on Brooklands Lane, backing onto Brooklands College campus.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/8zAfNkuo7o77n5jm9

[okgo]

So it’s probably worth about 4 on a good day then.

st location. Nobody spends £7m in Weybridge not to live on the hill.

[thetapeworm]

phil_cardiff said:

I'm not in the market for a £2M house in Surrey, but if I were then the advert wouldn't put me off viewing that if I really liked it. Granted it's not the best advert but maybe the agent has a point around the price?

You could be right, the plot it's on isn't huge compared with some neighbouring ones but it's not an area of the market I've ever really looked at on my searches for terraces in the north so maybe the price reduction will help (or more is needed) but it's a weird part of the world, 2 minutes walk away you've got pop star and footballer mansions crammed together like a new build estate but there's not really much up for sale. The only two nearby at the moment seem to be these which are priced higher and while they have features that appeal, much like my in-laws they aren't are really "pawn" level houses.

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/146218880

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/145180106

I just want them to get rid, downsize properly and enjoy their later years but by father-in-law seems to want to chase a new project to stress him out some more.

Edited by thetapeworm on Thursday 28th March 10:52

[TheJimi]

Escort3500 said:

abzmike said:

TheJimi said:

Today's offering from me. Again, in one of my favourite towns -

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/146106431#/...

Nice enough in a lovely spot, but a lot of buyers will likely need to spend a good deal of money updating.

It’d take your overall spend up to £1m I’d imagine, but you’d have lovely place in a superb location at the end.

My thoughts too.

Obviously, go easy on the curtains though...