Patio cleaning… gadget or chemical?

Patio cleaning… gadget or chemical?

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dalzo

1,877 posts

137 months

Tuesday 12th March
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Is bac-50 and sodium hypochlorite safe to use on porcelain. Managed to stain a tile and want to clean them up for summer.

Ham_and_Jam

2,220 posts

98 months

Tuesday 12th March
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dalzo said:
Is bac-50 and sodium hypochlorite safe to use on porcelain. Managed to stain a tile and want to clean them up for summer.
I’ve been trying to establish if it BAC50 is ok for composite decking.

In my Googling I did see that it was OK for porcelain tiles. Still unsure on my original question whether it’s ok for composite.

Not sure on sodium hypochlorite, but that stuff does stain most things white.

Somebody

1,185 posts

84 months

Tuesday 12th March
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It's worth repeating that Patio Magic is basically diluted Benzalkonium Chloride, commonly known as BAC50.


Ham_and_Jam

2,220 posts

98 months

Tuesday 12th March
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Somebody said:
It's worth repeating that Patio Magic is basically diluted Benzalkonium Chloride, commonly known as BAC50.

Tis why I bought it smile

dickymint

24,363 posts

259 months

Tuesday 12th March
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Ham_and_Jam said:
Somebody said:
It's worth repeating that Patio Magic is basically diluted Benzalkonium Chloride, commonly known as BAC50.

Tis why I bought it smile
Same here along with an extra 5L of the concentrate option.

Ham_and_Jam

2,220 posts

98 months

Tuesday 12th March
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dickymint said:
Same here along with an extra 5L of the concentrate option.
What is the concentrated version compared to the BAC50?

Edit - I think I have the concentrated BAC50

Edited by Ham_and_Jam on Tuesday 12th March 20:03

xx99xx

1,923 posts

74 months

Tuesday 12th March
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As I've said on these types of threads before, white vinegar will get rid of anything organic within a few days. Safer for pets and very cheap.

Spray it on neat or diluted, in dry weather, leave for a few days and admire your handiwork. Repeat as necessary. Works especially well on wood but does the job on moss, algae etc on the ground. Won't shift leaf or rust stains though.

dalzo

1,877 posts

137 months

Wednesday 13th March
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Ham_and_Jam said:
I’ve been trying to establish if it BAC50 is ok for composite decking.

In my Googling I did see that it was OK for porcelain tiles. Still unsure on my original question whether it’s ok for composite.

Not sure on sodium hypochlorite, but that stuff does stain most things white.
Thanks for the info thumbup

I’ve got cuttings of composite kicking around so I’ll test it out on that and let you know!

Ham_and_Jam

2,220 posts

98 months

Wednesday 13th March
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dalzo said:
Thanks for the info thumbup

I’ve got cuttings of composite kicking around so I’ll test it out on that and let you know!
Thankyou for that.

I’d still do a test porcelain tile first for peace of mind.

My BAC50 arrived today, unfortunately the weather didn’t.

Aluminati

2,506 posts

59 months

Wednesday 13th March
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With Karcher thing, single pass, no chemicals.


nails1979

597 posts

142 months

Wednesday 13th March
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I've got 10 litres of Bac50 on the way. It stopped raining today but was windy af instead.
Whats the diluation rate everyone is using?

Somebody

1,185 posts

84 months

Wednesday 13th March
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nails1979 said:
I've got 10 litres of Bac50 on the way. It stopped raining today but was windy af instead.
Whats the diluation rate everyone is using?
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nails1979

597 posts

142 months

Tuesday 2nd April
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Somebody said:
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Thanks, I managed to do the drive and the white render on the back of the house on sat whilst it was dry, I mixed it a bit stronger than 20:1 but not much more.

Compared to using wet & forget last year on I can see the difference already, whereas the wet & forget took weeks.

I used rubber gloves, safety glasses and a hat, I don't normally bother with PPE as usually just forget till halfway through doing whatever, but I was glad, got a few splashes on my cheeks and legs and got some canny red burnt looking splotches off it,

ambuletz

10,746 posts

182 months

Tuesday 2nd April
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regarding the BAC50/patio cleaner.. suppose you was very careful to ensure you did not spray it on the grass, and only on your slabs.. if your slabs are flat/flush with your grass.. when it rains (maybe even days or weeks later) does it ruin the grass around the edges where it might run off from rain water?

renmure

4,248 posts

225 months

Tuesday 2nd April
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I also bought 10 liters of the BAC 50 stuff this week.

We only moved here last year and I don't think the driveway had ever been sprayed, scrubbed or cleaned in the previous 9 years. I ended up spending nearly 3 days blasting dirt off with a Karcher last summer then a couple of coverings with Patio Magic. To be fair, the transformation was massive but it was clear that it still all looked a bit less good than it should.

My intention was to use the karcher and the chemicals again this summer but by coincidence a neighbour was having their driveway cleaned by a commercial company with diesel powered pressure washers and some type of chemical cleaners so I got them to give me a very quick demo on a couple of sq/m of my driveway and Wow... it was like night and day. .Maybe that's part of the sales pitch because the cleaned bit looks out of place now.

Anyhow, I've booked them to come back in a couple of weeks and do it all. They estimate a day's work for 2 blokes. I'll see about getting some pics but hopefully I'll be able to keep on top of it a bit easier when it's done.

dickymint

24,363 posts

259 months

Tuesday 2nd April
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renmure said:
I also bought 10 liters of the BAC 50 stuff this week.

We only moved here last year and I don't think the driveway had ever been sprayed, scrubbed or cleaned in the previous 9 years. I ended up spending nearly 3 days blasting dirt off with a Karcher last summer then a couple of coverings with Patio Magic. To be fair, the transformation was massive but it was clear that it still all looked a bit less good than it should.

My intention was to use the karcher and the chemicals again this summer but by coincidence a neighbour was having their driveway cleaned by a commercial company with diesel powered pressure washers and some type of chemical cleaners so I got them to give me a very quick demo on a couple of sq/m of my driveway and Wow... it was like night and day. .Maybe that's part of the sales pitch because the cleaned bit looks out of place now.

Anyhow, I've booked them to come back in a couple of weeks and do it all. They estimate a day's work for 2 blokes. I'll see about getting some pics but hopefully I'll be able to keep on top of it a bit easier when it's done.
Make a note of what chemicals and strength they use and let us know thumbup

DonkeyApple

55,350 posts

170 months

Wednesday 3rd April
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Aluminati said:
With Karcher thing, single pass, no chemicals.

Yup. Personally, I'd avoid chemicals and just power wash more regularly. Just bookending summer every year is suffice.

Road2Ruin

5,232 posts

217 months

Wednesday 3rd April
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DonkeyApple said:
Yup. Personally, I'd avoid chemicals and just power wash more regularly. Just bookending summer every year is suffice.
The thing I find with pressure washing, is the mortar joints soon get blasted out.

ARHarh

3,764 posts

108 months

Wednesday 3rd April
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Power washing just moves the mess around. You spend hours blasting away, it destroys any mortar, everything gets covered in mud and muck. You then end up washing everything around your drive or path. Then the algee all comes back after a month or so.

Much rather just fill a watering can with BAC50, pour it over the drive, path or whatever. Rinse the watering can out and wait a day for the green to go. It will also last till winter if you do it now.

DonkeyApple

55,350 posts

170 months

Wednesday 3rd April
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Road2Ruin said:
DonkeyApple said:
Yup. Personally, I'd avoid chemicals and just power wash more regularly. Just bookending summer every year is suffice.
The thing I find with pressure washing, is the mortar joints soon get blasted out.
Absolutely but that's part of why doing the clean more often is better as you're not having to use such high pressure.