Recommend me a washing machine...
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Something catastrophic went wrong with our washing machine last night, there is about 3” of movement in the drum so I’m calling it scrap. It’s only a 5 or 6kg built in hotpoint thing and not big enough for a family of four.
I’m after a 10kg+ washer that also has got a matching tumble dryer so I can double stack them when I do the utility room.
Budget is up at about £700 for the washer and I would prefer white. I’m looking at AEG, Bosch, LG and Samsung but there are so many different options I’m lost!
I’m after a 10kg+ washer that also has got a matching tumble dryer so I can double stack them when I do the utility room.
Budget is up at about £700 for the washer and I would prefer white. I’m looking at AEG, Bosch, LG and Samsung but there are so many different options I’m lost!
Gtom said:
I had a Bosch classix (?) 6kg years ago. I inherited it from someone and it stopped working one day, only when it was replaced I realised it was a hair clip in the pump.
When I got my first house in 1985 I inherited my mums old Bendix washing machine (she'd had it 10 years) lasted another 5 years before it kept over filing - I wasn't so good at repairing stuff back then so I bought a new one and then stripped the thing down to see why it failed and also make it easy to transport to the tipIt was the level sensor tube that was bunged up with soap powder but by the time I'd worked that out the thing was in way too many bits and we had a new one where it used to be.......
The new one didn't last 5 years
Gtom said:
Are the new ones built as well as the old ones?
I don't think anything these days is built as well as the old stuffWe bought a 10kg Bosch Serie 8 Washer-Dryer for just under £1000 about 18 months ago. I would have been better setting fire to the money. I could even have used it as toilet paper or even perhaps using it as material to insulate the roof. I could even have gotten better value by offering it to the local pub to paint the room. What a complete pile of rubbish.
Firstly- as others have mentioned, all machines now have an out of balance sensor. This can go off, well, frankly at any time. It can be affected by just about anything and everything including events on the other side of the world or even in space. The result is that the spin is cancelled and it tries to rebalance. This means the cycle may be 4 hours, it may be 6. Frankly it depends how it feels and don't you forget it. Fine if you leave the machine overnight. Dreadful if you're trying to wash 3 loads between coming home from work and bedtime so that you can get all the washing done and ironed before the next working week.
Secondly - rinse performance SUCKS, I mean really sucks. Our towels are like biscuits. It's not the soap, it's the machine. Same soap as the old machine and the old machine made things lovely and soft. New machine is appalling. New soap, same result. My wife literally weighs each load of washing now and adjusts the soap level to suit. Crackers effort
Thirdly - It's supposed to adjust time remaining for loads. That 1 minute on the timer? That can be anything from a genuine 15s to an actual hour and half. POS.
Fourth - It vibrates like it came from Ann Summers. Yes it's level. It's been levelled with 3 spirit levels, one on each axis. It still vibrates. Yes the floor is solid concrete with ceramic tiles. Yes the feet are locked. No I don't have any patience left with it.
Finally - Bosch have been out. First time "no fault found". Second time it's "needs a new motor". Third time it's "Needs a new ecu to fix the sensors". Basically. It's pants. Except it doesn't wash those. They upset the balance sensor.
I'm buying a new machine shortly. It will have a smaller drum so the loads are more of the capacity. It will probably be a Miele. It's worth the money to save the marriage and the cheap Washer-Dryers get dreadful reviews.
If anyone feels like spending £1000 on a Bosch Serie 8 machine... please I implore you. Buy a Mazda RX8 with rotten sills and hot start issues. It will cause you less pain.
Firstly- as others have mentioned, all machines now have an out of balance sensor. This can go off, well, frankly at any time. It can be affected by just about anything and everything including events on the other side of the world or even in space. The result is that the spin is cancelled and it tries to rebalance. This means the cycle may be 4 hours, it may be 6. Frankly it depends how it feels and don't you forget it. Fine if you leave the machine overnight. Dreadful if you're trying to wash 3 loads between coming home from work and bedtime so that you can get all the washing done and ironed before the next working week.
Secondly - rinse performance SUCKS, I mean really sucks. Our towels are like biscuits. It's not the soap, it's the machine. Same soap as the old machine and the old machine made things lovely and soft. New machine is appalling. New soap, same result. My wife literally weighs each load of washing now and adjusts the soap level to suit. Crackers effort
Thirdly - It's supposed to adjust time remaining for loads. That 1 minute on the timer? That can be anything from a genuine 15s to an actual hour and half. POS.
Fourth - It vibrates like it came from Ann Summers. Yes it's level. It's been levelled with 3 spirit levels, one on each axis. It still vibrates. Yes the floor is solid concrete with ceramic tiles. Yes the feet are locked. No I don't have any patience left with it.
Finally - Bosch have been out. First time "no fault found". Second time it's "needs a new motor". Third time it's "Needs a new ecu to fix the sensors". Basically. It's pants. Except it doesn't wash those. They upset the balance sensor.
I'm buying a new machine shortly. It will have a smaller drum so the loads are more of the capacity. It will probably be a Miele. It's worth the money to save the marriage and the cheap Washer-Dryers get dreadful reviews.
If anyone feels like spending £1000 on a Bosch Serie 8 machine... please I implore you. Buy a Mazda RX8 with rotten sills and hot start issues. It will cause you less pain.
Gtom said:
Something catastrophic went wrong with our washing machine last night, there is about 3” of movement in the drum so I’m calling it scrap. It’s only a 5 or 6kg built in hotpoint thing and not big enough for a family of four.
I’m after a 10kg+ washer that also has got a matching tumble dryer so I can double stack them when I do the utility room.
Budget is up at about £700 for the washer and I would prefer white. I’m looking at AEG, Bosch, LG and Samsung but there are so many different options I’m lost!
Out of stock in white currently, but Ebac do a 10kg unit for under £700.I’m after a 10kg+ washer that also has got a matching tumble dryer so I can double stack them when I do the utility room.
Budget is up at about £700 for the washer and I would prefer white. I’m looking at AEG, Bosch, LG and Samsung but there are so many different options I’m lost!
https://www.ebac.com/washing-machines/e-care-10kg-...
Chris Hinds said:
Thirdly - It's supposed to adjust time remaining for loads. That 1 minute on the timer? That can be anything from a genuine 15s to an actual hour and half. POS.
n.
The good old MS Windows update timer feature.....n.
We have an LG that has been solid for over 10 years now. It stinks but that's not the machine's fault
I could have bought a Miele with the amount of money I've p1ssed into it trying to get it less stinky.Edited by TimmyMallett on Thursday 8th February 11:31
Chris Hinds said:
We bought a 10kg Bosch Serie 8 Washer-Dryer for just under £1000 about 18 months ago. I would have been better setting fire to the money. I could even have used it as toilet paper or even perhaps using it as material to insulate the roof. I could even have gotten better value by offering it to the local pub to paint the room. What a complete pile of rubbish.
Firstly- as others have mentioned, all machines now have an out of balance sensor. This can go off, well, frankly at any time. It can be affected by just about anything and everything including events on the other side of the world or even in space. The result is that the spin is cancelled and it tries to rebalance. This means the cycle may be 4 hours, it may be 6. Frankly it depends how it feels and don't you forget it. Fine if you leave the machine overnight. Dreadful if you're trying to wash 3 loads between coming home from work and bedtime so that you can get all the washing done and ironed before the next working week.
Secondly - rinse performance SUCKS, I mean really sucks. Our towels are like biscuits. It's not the soap, it's the machine. Same soap as the old machine and the old machine made things lovely and soft. New machine is appalling. New soap, same result. My wife literally weighs each load of washing now and adjusts the soap level to suit. Crackers effort
Thirdly - It's supposed to adjust time remaining for loads. That 1 minute on the timer? That can be anything from a genuine 15s to an actual hour and half. POS.
Fourth - It vibrates like it came from Ann Summers. Yes it's level. It's been levelled with 3 spirit levels, one on each axis. It still vibrates. Yes the floor is solid concrete with ceramic tiles. Yes the feet are locked. No I don't have any patience left with it.
Finally - Bosch have been out. First time "no fault found". Second time it's "needs a new motor". Third time it's "Needs a new ecu to fix the sensors". Basically. It's pants. Except it doesn't wash those. They upset the balance sensor.
I'm buying a new machine shortly. It will have a smaller drum so the loads are more of the capacity. It will probably be a Miele. It's worth the money to save the marriage and the cheap Washer-Dryers get dreadful reviews.
If anyone feels like spending £1000 on a Bosch Serie 8 machine... please I implore you. Buy a Mazda RX8 with rotten sills and hot start issues. It will cause you less pain.
For balance Firstly- as others have mentioned, all machines now have an out of balance sensor. This can go off, well, frankly at any time. It can be affected by just about anything and everything including events on the other side of the world or even in space. The result is that the spin is cancelled and it tries to rebalance. This means the cycle may be 4 hours, it may be 6. Frankly it depends how it feels and don't you forget it. Fine if you leave the machine overnight. Dreadful if you're trying to wash 3 loads between coming home from work and bedtime so that you can get all the washing done and ironed before the next working week.
Secondly - rinse performance SUCKS, I mean really sucks. Our towels are like biscuits. It's not the soap, it's the machine. Same soap as the old machine and the old machine made things lovely and soft. New machine is appalling. New soap, same result. My wife literally weighs each load of washing now and adjusts the soap level to suit. Crackers effort
Thirdly - It's supposed to adjust time remaining for loads. That 1 minute on the timer? That can be anything from a genuine 15s to an actual hour and half. POS.
Fourth - It vibrates like it came from Ann Summers. Yes it's level. It's been levelled with 3 spirit levels, one on each axis. It still vibrates. Yes the floor is solid concrete with ceramic tiles. Yes the feet are locked. No I don't have any patience left with it.
Finally - Bosch have been out. First time "no fault found". Second time it's "needs a new motor". Third time it's "Needs a new ecu to fix the sensors". Basically. It's pants. Except it doesn't wash those. They upset the balance sensor.
I'm buying a new machine shortly. It will have a smaller drum so the loads are more of the capacity. It will probably be a Miele. It's worth the money to save the marriage and the cheap Washer-Dryers get dreadful reviews.
If anyone feels like spending £1000 on a Bosch Serie 8 machine... please I implore you. Buy a Mazda RX8 with rotten sills and hot start issues. It will cause you less pain.
, and touching a massive piece of wood, our Bosch Series 8 integrated (wash only) machine has been mostly OK in the 2yrs we've had it. We did have a washer dryer years ago (not Bosch but can't remember make) and that always seemed iffy.A couple of times (that I've been told about) the new one has done the out-of-balance and refused to proceed thing - the most annoyng thing is there's nothing to tell you that's happened until you get the washing out and it's still soaking. I understand that "feature" is pretty standard now - the Bosch we got rid of was 22yrs old and that used to throw itself around (within the contraints of the cabinets) quite dramatically - I had to change the drum shock absorbers.
The new one does also produce crunchy towels etc - again, from what I've read, that's pretty normal now too. We've tried every idea we've read about on the internet and it makes no difference - allegedly it's do with water becoming bound in the cotton's fibres but quite why it should happen in new machines and not old ones, I have no idea. Our water is super soft but even washing towels as a trial without soap didn't make any difference, and we've tried multiple combinations of more/less detergent/conditioner, slower spin speeds etc.
I ended up with this in the end
https://markselectrical.co.uk/fwy606wwln1_lg-washe...
First impressions are good, easy to use, balanced and very quiet.
Time shall tell I guess.
https://markselectrical.co.uk/fwy606wwln1_lg-washe...
First impressions are good, easy to use, balanced and very quiet.
Time shall tell I guess.
I've started to have a few issues with an ageing Bosch WAE24165GB Classix 6 where it seems either just stop on the rinse cycle and generally seems noisier and physically a bit clunkier than it used to.
Done all the usual stuff like a regular hot cleaning cycle with a cleaning sachet and use powder rather than liquid so it should be gunge free.
It's old enough that it probably doesn't owe anything if it does anything that requires an engineer visit but I also don't want to be doing homework on new washing machines in a rush.
The "man maths" part of me always wanted to make a Miele work if this bugger breaks.
I don't need anything that does too much smart stuff like use an app on my phone (WTF that's actually a thing?!).
It just needs to wash well and work.
Done all the usual stuff like a regular hot cleaning cycle with a cleaning sachet and use powder rather than liquid so it should be gunge free.
It's old enough that it probably doesn't owe anything if it does anything that requires an engineer visit but I also don't want to be doing homework on new washing machines in a rush.
The "man maths" part of me always wanted to make a Miele work if this bugger breaks.
I don't need anything that does too much smart stuff like use an app on my phone (WTF that's actually a thing?!).
It just needs to wash well and work.
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hstewie said:
hstewie said: I've started to have a few issues with an ageing Bosch WAE24165GB Classix 6 where it seems either just stop on the rinse cycle and generally seems noisier and physically a bit clunkier than it used to.
Done all the usual stuff like a regular hot cleaning cycle with a cleaning sachet and use powder rather than liquid so it should be gunge free.
It's old enough that it probably doesn't owe anything if it does anything that requires an engineer visit but I also don't want to be doing homework on new washing machines in a rush.
The "man maths" part of me always wanted to make a Miele work if this bugger breaks.
I don't need anything that does too much smart stuff like use an app on my phone (WTF that's actually a thing?!).
It just needs to wash well and work.
https://www.miele.co.uk/c/miele-outlet-abingdon-1409.htmDone all the usual stuff like a regular hot cleaning cycle with a cleaning sachet and use powder rather than liquid so it should be gunge free.
It's old enough that it probably doesn't owe anything if it does anything that requires an engineer visit but I also don't want to be doing homework on new washing machines in a rush.
The "man maths" part of me always wanted to make a Miele work if this bugger breaks.
I don't need anything that does too much smart stuff like use an app on my phone (WTF that's actually a thing?!).
It just needs to wash well and work.
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