Recommend me a washing machine...

[Digger]

bhstewie said:

I don't need anything that does too much smart stuff like use an app on my phone (WTF that's actually a thing?!).

It just needs to wash well and work.

Counterpoint I thought wifi & apps on a w/m would be pointless but my Landlady got a new Hoover (very noisy!) w/m in to the property so I immediately set up & connected with the app (a bit of a faff tbh!).

With the app there are many more programmes available & much more customisation. The main programme I use is a Daily 60 minute wash to which I have added 2 extra rinses & saved the programme to favourites. So now i just dump the clothes & gel in to the w/m & select the programme within favourites in the app & away it goes.

You can monitor the wash on the app to see when it finishes & it will alert you. When finished it asks if you want to start a slow gentle tumbling programme to avoid creasing which I find handy if I'm out at the shops or whatever. From the app I can also see if it's being used by anyone else so I don't waste time thinking I can go use it

[98elise]

Digger said:

bhstewie said:

I don't need anything that does too much smart stuff like use an app on my phone (WTF that's actually a thing?!).

It just needs to wash well and work.

Counterpoint I thought wifi & apps on a w/m would be pointless but my Landlady got a new Hoover (very noisy!) w/m in to the property so I immediately set up & connected with the app (a bit of a faff tbh!).

With the app there are many more programmes available & much more customisation. The main programme I use is a Daily 60 minute wash to which I have added 2 extra rinses & saved the programme to favourites. So now i just dump the clothes & gel in to the w/m & select the programme within favourites in the app & away it goes.

You can monitor the wash on the app to see when it finishes & it will alert you. When finished it asks if you want to start a slow gentle tumbling programme to avoid creasing which I find handy if I'm out at the shops or whatever. From the app I can also see if it's being used by anyone else so I don't waste time thinking I can go use it

Agreed. I would love an app on mine. If I'm doing a lot of washing I want to know when it's finished a load so I can get the next one on.

[dhutch]

essayer said:

Is it easy enough to replace a door seal? Samsung. Ours has a tear so water leaks out. There’s a retaining band on the outside, assume there’s on on the drum as well?

I have done it, not a hard job.

[bitchstewie]

Digger said:

Counterpoint I thought wifi & apps on a w/m would be pointless but my Landlady got a new Hoover (very noisy!) w/m in to the property so I immediately set up & connected with the app (a bit of a faff tbh!).

With the app there are many more programmes available & much more customisation. The main programme I use is a Daily 60 minute wash to which I have added 2 extra rinses & saved the programme to favourites. So now i just dump the clothes & gel in to the w/m & select the programme within favourites in the app & away it goes.

You can monitor the wash on the app to see when it finishes & it will alert you. When finished it asks if you want to start a slow gentle tumbling programme to avoid creasing which I find handy if I'm out at the shops or whatever. From the app I can also see if it's being used by anyone else so I don't waste time thinking I can go use it

Fair enough but it's not something I need I just need a washing machine that will wash well and that won't break

As with everything each manufacturer seems to make about 20 different models with minimal obvious difference between them

So starter for ten what would this NOT do?

https://www.miele.co.uk/product/11810580/w1-washin...

[richie99]

bhstewie said:

Fair enough but it's not something I need I just need a washing machine that will wash well and that won't break

As with everything each manufacturer seems to make about 20 different models with minimal obvious difference between them

So starter for ten what would this NOT do?

https://www.miele.co.uk/product/11810580/w1-washin...

I bought one about 6 months ago. Washes fine but to answer your question, it doesn't have a timer for delayed washing - I used to use our last one to have the washing finished when I got up in the morning, nor does it have a rinse only programme - to rinse after a handwash for example.

[dudleybloke]

dudleybloke said:

Got this today.



Seems decent so far.

Few weeks on and I'm very happy with this.
Was only £280 Inc delivery and it's very quiet and washes great.
Only downside is it doesn't display how much time is left to run.

[richie99]

bhstewie said:

Fair enough but it's not something I need I just need a washing machine that will wash well and that won't break

As with everything each manufacturer seems to make about 20 different models with minimal obvious difference between them

So starter for ten what would this NOT do?

https://www.miele.co.uk/product/11810580/w1-washin...

I bought one about 6 months ago. Washes fine but to answer your question, it doesn't have a timer for delayed washing - I used to use our last one to have the washing finished when I got up in the morning, nor does it have a rinse only programme - to rinse after a handwash for example.

[119]

richie99 said:

I bought one about 6 months ago. Washes fine but to answer your question, it doesn't have a timer for delayed washing - I used to use our last one to have the washing finished when I got up in the morning, nor does it have a rinse only programme - to rinse after a handwash for example.

It does have a delayed start function and rinse only assuming you are referring to the unit in the link above.

It might be buried in one of the machines sub menus.
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Edited by 119 on Monday 25th March 18:22

[Mr Whippy]

Digger said:

bhstewie said:

I don't need anything that does too much smart stuff like use an app on my phone (WTF that's actually a thing?!).

It just needs to wash well and work.

Counterpoint I thought wifi & apps on a w/m would be pointless but my Landlady got a new Hoover (very noisy!) w/m in to the property so I immediately set up & connected with the app (a bit of a faff tbh!).

With the app there are many more programmes available & much more customisation. The main programme I use is a Daily 60 minute wash to which I have added 2 extra rinses & saved the programme to favourites. So now i just dump the clothes & gel in to the w/m & select the programme within favourites in the app & away it goes.

You can monitor the wash on the app to see when it finishes & it will alert you. When finished it asks if you want to start a slow gentle tumbling programme to avoid creasing which I find handy if I'm out at the shops or whatever. From the app I can also see if it's being used by anyone else so I don't waste time thinking I can go use it

Bit daft that all those functions aren’t on the machine to start with.

Ie, custom 1, 2, 3… and set each phase as you want it… should be easy if the washer can take those commands via an app.
They likely prefer this because they can have the machine pretty dumb and dump all the software on an app… but means you’ll be screwed when your old phone no longer works with latest app… or machine no longer works with latest phone and app, leaving you with less functionality than the boggo non-smart models in 5 years time.

[bitchstewie]

richie99 said:

I bought one about 6 months ago. Washes fine but to answer your question, it doesn't have a timer for delayed washing - I used to use our last one to have the washing finished when I got up in the morning, nor does it have a rinse only programme - to rinse after a handwash for example.

Thanks I must be very boring as I don't run the washing machine when I'm not around and awake "just in case"

Genuine question how much have these things moved on?

And are Miele over-hyped or still sensible if you want to buy once and (hopefully unless you get a bad one) be done with it for a long long time?

[gregch]

We have a Miele and in my opinion, yes, they're overhyped and not really very good. Admittedly we live in a hard water area without a softener, but everything need at least one additional rinse, after a program that already had 'water plus' selected, otherwise there's detergent residue on dark clothes.
Also, very early on, it tripped the power due to a known issue with the heater component.

We previously had a very reasonably priced LG which was excellent in every respect. Well, other than the tune it played when the washing was done.

[TEKNOPUG]

bhstewie said:

Digger said:

Counterpoint I thought wifi & apps on a w/m would be pointless but my Landlady got a new Hoover (very noisy!) w/m in to the property so I immediately set up & connected with the app (a bit of a faff tbh!).

With the app there are many more programmes available & much more customisation. The main programme I use is a Daily 60 minute wash to which I have added 2 extra rinses & saved the programme to favourites. So now i just dump the clothes & gel in to the w/m & select the programme within favourites in the app & away it goes.

You can monitor the wash on the app to see when it finishes & it will alert you. When finished it asks if you want to start a slow gentle tumbling programme to avoid creasing which I find handy if I'm out at the shops or whatever. From the app I can also see if it's being used by anyone else so I don't waste time thinking I can go use it

Fair enough but it's not something I need I just need a washing machine that will wash well and that won't break

As with everything each manufacturer seems to make about 20 different models with minimal obvious difference between them

So starter for ten what would this NOT do?

https://www.miele.co.uk/product/11810580/w1-washin...

Get one from their Outlet store - You'll get a £1200 machine for the same price which will be a whole level above their basic machines.

[TEKNOPUG]

gregch said:

We have a Miele and in my opinion, yes, they're overhyped and not really very good. Admittedly we live in a hard water area without a softener, but everything need at least one additional rinse, after a program that already had 'water plus' selected, otherwise there's detergent residue on dark clothes.
Also, very early on, it tripped the power due to a known issue with the heater component.

We previously had a very reasonably priced LG which was excellent in every respect. Well, other than the tune it played when the washing was done.

Have you adjusted your machine to take account of the water hardness? Which model is it - a TwinDos one?

[119]

Ours is knocking on 12 years old ish and hasn’t seen a repair man so far.

And it works great even in a hard water area!

We do a 90 degree empty wash every month and that seems to keep it clean although we do have to run a cloth round the inside of the door seal occasionally.

[dhutch]

Digger said:

With the app there are many more programmes available & much more customisations. The main programme I use is a Daily 60 minute wash to which I have added 2 extra rinses & saved the programme to favourites. So now i just dump the clothes & gel in to the w/m & select the programme within favourites in the app & away it goes.

Question, why do you need two extra rinses? Seems a bit excessive, put machine can do an 'extra rinse' which I only use very rarely and basically only for reusable nappies.

The only thing I would like our machine to do is a " Mini 30' " wash with a 1400rpm spin, even if it took 45mins. I wouldn't use it often as I almost always use the standard 2h wash and just avoid putting clothes in if they don't really need a wash yet. Plus the line/airer to dry.
However if I am in a rush for something, it feels really counter intuitive for the quick half hour wash to only be a 700rpm spin as all the time saved on the spin is lost in drying time.

First world issues!

[Digger]

dhutch said:

Digger said:

With the app there are many more programmes available & much more customisations. The main programme I use is a Daily 60 minute wash to which I have added 2 extra rinses & saved the programme to favourites. So now i just dump the clothes & gel in to the w/m & select the programme within favourites in the app & away it goes.

Question, why do you need two extra rinses? Seems a bit excessive, put machine can do an 'extra rinse' which I only use very rarely and basically only for reusable nappies.

The only thing I would like our machine to do is a " Mini 30' " wash with a 1400rpm spin, even if it took 45mins. I wouldn't use it often as I almost always use the standard 2h wash and just avoid putting clothes in if they don't really need a wash yet. Plus the line/airer to dry.
However if I am in a rush for something, it feels really counter intuitive for the quick half hour wash to only be a 700rpm spin as all the time saved on the spin is lost in drying time.

First world issues!

Well, because I put in a nearly full load to wash with a reasonable amount of Ariel Gel & a 60 minute wash time in those circumstances does not rinse the load to my satisfaction hence the addition of 2 extra rinses. It adds roughly 20 minutes. I could perhaps do one extra instead I guess

[Mobile Chicane]

Cheapest possible. Be prepared to replace often. Or not.

My £230 Indesit from John Lewis has done 10+ years. I maintain that if it gets past the warranty period, it's going to have a long and happy life.

Why people spend thousands on a machine which fundamentally does the same thing is beyond me.

[dickymint]

Had a high end LG for over ten years. Replaced it and the tumble drier with a new one 2 years ago and gave the old one to the MIL (she used to do housework for us and loved it). Only replaced it because we had a kitchen and utility extension built and Wifey wanted a colour change lol.

[119]

Mobile Chicane said:

Why people spend thousands on a machine which fundamentally does the same thing is beyond me.

That could be said for nearly everything, including cars.

[TEKNOPUG]

Mobile Chicane said:

Cheapest possible. Be prepared to replace often. Or not.

My £230 Indesit from John Lewis has done 10+ years. I maintain that if it gets past the warranty period, it's going to have a long and happy life.

Why people spend thousands on a machine which fundamentally does the same thing is beyond me.

Multiple reasons. Compare a £250 generic "branded" machine (Beko, Hotpoint, Electrolux etc, it will be the same machine behind the front cover) to a £1250 Miele or similar.

The more expensive machine will be:

More energy efficient and cheaper to run
More water efficient and cheaper to run
Will be quieter
Will have less vibrations
Will have a higher spin speed, meaning drier clothes and more efficient if you use a powered dryer.
Will have more programmes so clothes clean better and greater option of fabrics

It may have features like TwinDos where you load bottles of detergent into the machine, which is more convenient and as the machine alters the amount of detergent based on the programme and the load, gives better results and is cheaper to run.

Adjustability of water hardness giving better washing results and efficiency
Turning the beeping off!
Delayed start timer

Finish timer (tell the machine when you want the programme to end and it will adjust the start time based on programme and load) which is useful if you for example have an economy 7 meter, you can set the machine to finish at 7.30am, so it runs during off-peak and finishes right at the end of the cycle, minimising the amount of time the washing sits in the machine before you remove it.

Other features like "Extra Quiet" and Washing Assistant (you tell the machine what you are washing (clothing, fabric, colour, level of dirt etc) and the machine selects and adjusts the most appropriate programme.

App with full control of machine and notifications (can set machine to automatically order more detergent when it is running low for example) amongst features.

Both machines work.....but one of them will work better, will be more efficient, quieter, cheaper to run, more convenient and with more features. Reliability would be a conversation to have in 20years