'Please do not park here'

[Bobton125]

I live down a cul-de-sac in a busy part of town where parking is very limited. There is on street parking and a few private parking spaces owned by a company that you can hire from (around£1k a year per space).

There's a block of garages across the street and next to the garages a small gravel area with bushes (approx 2 car widths wide)

I don't know who owns this tiny piece of land. Traffic wardens don't ticket on it, so i assume not council owned?

The company who owns all the parking spaces in the road doesn't own it. And the company who rents out the garages doesn't own it, so i've been parking on there when there's no where to park on the road.

Some old man who lives down the road has placed a note on my windscreen saying 'please do not park here, this is private property'

Is there any way i can find out who actually owns this piece of land as it's not a parking space, it's just some gravel full of shrubbery next to some garages, i find it hard to believe that it's privately owned by this random guy down the road

[springfan62]

You can do a map search on land registry which will tell you who owns it providing it is registered.

[sherman]

Was there maybe once a garage there thats been torn down and is owned by one of the houses on the street.
How many garages v how many houses are there?

[Bobton125]

springfan62 said:

You can do a map search on land registry which will tell you who owns it providing it is registered.

When I’ve looked you can search by property (of which this isn’t one) or it seems you need an account to search land

Unless I’m doing something wrong?

[Bobton125]

sherman said:

Was there maybe once a garage there thats been torn down and is owned by one of the houses on the street.
How many garages v how many houses are there?

No definitely didn’t used to be a garage. There’s houses and blocks of flats down the street

[Gary C]

possibly

https://www.gov.uk/get-information-about-property-... ?

[Car bon]

What are you trying to achieve ? It's not clear from the question

You could try asking the guy whether it's his - then what ? are you looking to rent it ? park there for free ? Or just to tell him to mind his own business if it's not his ?

If you know where he lives, maybe look at the land registry entry for his house ?

[JackJarvis]

Bobton125 said:

Some old man who lives down the road has placed a note on my windscreen

Go and talk to him. You might be able to quickly establish if his request is valid or the ramblings of a bored pensioner.

[Bobton125]

Car bon said:

What are you trying to achieve ? It's not clear from the question

You could try asking the guy whether it's his - then what ? are you looking to rent it ? park there for free ? Or just to tell him to mind his own business if it's not his ?

If you know where he lives, maybe look at the land registry entry for his house ?

Sorry if not clear. I want to park there as i can't always get a space on the street.

I basically have suspicions that he's a curtain twitcher who doesn't actually own this piece of land but doesn't want people parking on it either. It's such a random little patch i'm not sure how he would own it, it certainly wouldn't be in his deeds as he lives down the bottom of the street so isn't attached to his property.

Asking him is an option, might be a pointless exercise though

[FHCNICK]

JackJarvis said:

Go and talk to him. You might be able to quickly establish if his request is valid or the ramblings of a bored pensioner.

Exactly

[Lester H]

Well, at least he wrote ‘ please’.. Best, as others have said, is to attempt to talk to him and assess his rights, if indeed any. Absolutely do not involve solicitors on this . He could well be a curtain twitcher, of whom there is no shortage in quiet, suburban areas. Some sad people have little to do. A neighbour chastised me for using his, what he called ramp I.E. dropped kerb, as I approached my place.,I acquiesced and kept my thoughts to myself!

[Ankh87]

Go speak to him. Ask him if he owns the land and if he does if he can prove it. Do it nicely and don't be an arse. Its possible the old man thinks he owns it but might not be the case. Could be as you say council owned.

[Jonmx]

Tell him you believe you've been given permission by the owner to park there, and could he identify who he believes the owner is as there may be some confusion over ownership.

[RSTurboPaul]

As already mentioned, Land Registry map search will give you the actual registered landowner.

https://search-property-information.service.gov.uk...

[SkodaIan]

One thing is for sure, someone will own the land. The information can be found from the land registry - if it's not available for free, try having the look at the map search on the local council planning portal and set the time window to "all time" (which I think is actually for any planning application from 1970 onwards but picks up most houses as they've either been built or extended since then). If it's associated with one of the houses, it will select at the same time as the house, in a similar way to the garages next to it.

Do you have a photo of the space? It could be a turning space for large vehicles (bin lorry etc) but just isn't surfaced. Another option would be a parking space associated for the electricity/water board staff to park their van on when working in a nearby substation/pumping station. Similarly, if there's a railway nearby, it could be the parking for a nearby track access point.

What you need to to now though, is establish who owns it, and then if possible quietly buy it off them. Then put up a notice stating "Parking for No. ..." and enjoy the look on the curtain twitcher's face when he reads it!!

[Sheets Tabuer]

My house is sideways on to the road, I have a garden then a driveway out the front and across from that I have a small piece of land with several trees on it, I get walkers parking on it before they go for a ramble and I've lost count of the times I have to tell people letting their dog st on it to feck off.

The old boy may well own it.

Really should put a hedge around mine

[Car bon]

Bobton125 said:

It's such a random little patch i'm not sure how he would own it, it certainly wouldn't be in his deeds as he lives down the bottom of the street so isn't attached to his property.

It doesn't have to be attached - example on this thread - https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

Not sure how close it does have to be though.....

[h0b0]

You do not own the land = You are parking on someone else's land. Your option is to pay the £2.73/day to park on private land.

[CrippsCorner]

Can you show us, on Google Maps?

[JQ]

h0b0 said:

You do not own the land = You are parking on someone else's land. Your option is to pay the £2.73/day to park on private land.

This - unless you're planning to buy the plot, knowing who own's it is going to make zero difference, you'll still be parking on someone else's property.