how do you kill a tree?
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fidgits said:
timmy33 said:
It's only a great big plant. It's not sentient, just a tree. So I wouldn't get too sentimentasl about it, anymore than you would a lump of coal.
but its been there for 100's of years, and if he leaves it alone, its likely to outlive him...
it'll certainly outlive any driveway, car or anything if left alone...
big plant my arse!
So, who cares how long it's been there. It'll fall down eventually anyway, they do that. There are more trees now in the UK than at the time of Robin Hood apparently, so we're hardly going to miss one.
timmy33 said:
fidgits said:
timmy33 said:
It's only a great big plant. It's not sentient, just a tree. So I wouldn't get too sentimentasl about it, anymore than you would a lump of coal.
but its been there for 100's of years, and if he leaves it alone, its likely to outlive him...
it'll certainly outlive any driveway, car or anything if left alone...
big plant my arse!
So, who cares how long it's been there. It'll fall down eventually anyway, they do that. There are more trees now in the UK than at the time of Robin Hood apparently, so we're hardly going to miss one.
I guess I just look at it that I bought a house with a driveway and garage and some young trees because i wanted a driveway - i didnt buy a house with a great big tree thinking "yep, i'll end that 500 year life to get a driveway", I thought, i'll get a house with a driveway.
Most tree's I dont care about - but the really old ones, well it seems such a shame to kill it just because he bought the wrong house.
fidgits said:
timmy33 said:
fidgits said:
timmy33 said:
It's only a great big plant. It's not sentient, just a tree. So I wouldn't get too sentimentasl about it, anymore than you would a lump of coal.
but its been there for 100's of years, and if he leaves it alone, its likely to outlive him...
it'll certainly outlive any driveway, car or anything if left alone...
big plant my arse!
So, who cares how long it's been there. It'll fall down eventually anyway, they do that. There are more trees now in the UK than at the time of Robin Hood apparently, so we're hardly going to miss one.
I guess I just look at it that I bought a house with a driveway and garage and some young trees because i wanted a driveway - i didnt buy a house with a great big tree thinking "yep, i'll end that 500 year life to get a driveway", I thought, i'll get a house with a driveway.
Most tree's I dont care about - but the really old ones, well it seems such a shame to kill it just because he bought the wrong house.
A nice sentiment if you live in an area where you have the choice of such matters, unfortunately in the real world, you can't always do that.
How about if the tree is later found to be causing structural damage to the house itself?
I'm actually a bit of a tree fan, if I take one down because it's in a crap place, I'll tend to put another up where it's not going to be in the way, but I certainly wouldn't pass up the opportunity of getting a house in an area I wanted just because I'd have to chop down a tree - in fact I didn't, it's coming down in the next few weeks, lovely bit of oak - might make some furniture from it... or maybe a green oak garage, it's certainly big enough.
timmy33 said:
Jaglover said:
timmy33 said:
It's only a great big plant. It's not sentient, just a tree. So I wouldn't get too sentimentasl about it, anymore than you would a lump of coal.
Watch out for wrathful Ents.
I'll fetch my axe
Edited by timmy33 on Tuesday 6th March 15:04
axe + tree + timmy = must.resist.old.overused.decrepit.joke
dern said:
timmy33 said:
So, who cares how long it's been there. It'll fall down eventually anyway, they do that. There are more trees now in the UK than at the time of Robin Hood apparently, so we're hardly going to miss one.
Evidence please, sounds like bollox to me. What do yuo expect me to do, count them?
Most of what was referred to as 'Forest' in medievil times actually just meant land owned by the king and administered by foresters, not necissarily covered in trees.
dern said:
timmy33 said:
So, who cares how long it's been there. It'll fall down eventually anyway, they do that. There are more trees now in the UK than at the time of Robin Hood apparently, so we're hardly going to miss one.
Evidence please, sounds like bollox to me. I was told the same by the arboroculturalist - not exactly evidence I know, but ...
plant site said:
More trees than Robin Hood’s Greenwood. England now has more trees than at any time since that of Robin Hood but is widespread tree planting good for conservation and the environment, asks Peter Marren.
www.plant-talk.org/past/pt27.html
Davi said:
fidgits said:
timmy33 said:
fidgits said:
timmy33 said:
It's only a great big plant. It's not sentient, just a tree. So I wouldn't get too sentimentasl about it, anymore than you would a lump of coal.
but its been there for 100's of years, and if he leaves it alone, its likely to outlive him...
it'll certainly outlive any driveway, car or anything if left alone...
big plant my arse!
So, who cares how long it's been there. It'll fall down eventually anyway, they do that. There are more trees now in the UK than at the time of Robin Hood apparently, so we're hardly going to miss one.
I guess I just look at it that I bought a house with a driveway and garage and some young trees because i wanted a driveway - i didnt buy a house with a great big tree thinking "yep, i'll end that 500 year life to get a driveway", I thought, i'll get a house with a driveway.
Most tree's I dont care about - but the really old ones, well it seems such a shame to kill it just because he bought the wrong house.
A nice sentiment if you live in an area where you have the choice of such matters, unfortunately in the real world, you can't always do that.
How about if the tree is later found to be causing structural damage to the house itself?
I'm actually a bit of a tree fan, if I take one down because it's in a crap place, I'll tend to put another up where it's not going to be in the way, but I certainly wouldn't pass up the opportunity of getting a house in an area I wanted just because I'd have to chop down a tree - in fact I didn't, it's coming down in the next few weeks, lovely bit of oak - might make some furniture from it... or maybe a green oak garage, it's certainly big enough.
Yeah, its not always possible to avoid chopping down a tree - it just seemed in the OP's case it was...
Im the same with other stuff though - I personally would be shocked if someone chose to knock down a 1900's house to build a brand new generic box for the convience...
Thanks for all your replies, people!
To clarify, these Leylandii were planted by my neighbour (a traffic policeman, aka government puppet) about 9 years ago simply because he had too many of the buggers to fill his own garden. They were planted on a strip of land whose ownership is disputed. Since then, they have out-grown all of the native species (I'm a native tree-hugger by nature) to completely block my beautiful view of the northumbrian countryside. I'm not going to replace them with block paving, or a car-port.
The reason for not just chopping them down is that there are pigeons nesting in them at present, so I want the tree to fall after they have raised their young, and I want it to look relatively natural to confuse said policeman and avoid his whinging call to the council.
Long story short, they're getting copper nailed. They won't fall on anyone's house or, heaven forfend, their beautiful 4x4 so I couldn't care less. I'm all for trees, just not bloody Leylandii! Thanks again for your help, everyone!
To clarify, these Leylandii were planted by my neighbour (a traffic policeman, aka government puppet) about 9 years ago simply because he had too many of the buggers to fill his own garden. They were planted on a strip of land whose ownership is disputed. Since then, they have out-grown all of the native species (I'm a native tree-hugger by nature) to completely block my beautiful view of the northumbrian countryside. I'm not going to replace them with block paving, or a car-port.
The reason for not just chopping them down is that there are pigeons nesting in them at present, so I want the tree to fall after they have raised their young, and I want it to look relatively natural to confuse said policeman and avoid his whinging call to the council.
Long story short, they're getting copper nailed. They won't fall on anyone's house or, heaven forfend, their beautiful 4x4 so I couldn't care less. I'm all for trees, just not bloody Leylandii! Thanks again for your help, everyone!
fidgits said:
Yeah, its not always possible to avoid chopping down a tree - it just seemed in the OP's case it was...
Im the same with other stuff though - I personally would be shocked if someone chose to knock down a 1900's house to build a brand new generic box for the convience...
Im the same with other stuff though - I personally would be shocked if someone chose to knock down a 1900's house to build a brand new generic box for the convience...
True enough!
Still, at least in this case it's one of those tree's that if needed could be replanted and replaced within a very short space of time.
timmy33 said:
dern said:
timmy33 said:
So, who cares how long it's been there. It'll fall down eventually anyway, they do that. There are more trees now in the UK than at the time of Robin Hood apparently, so we're hardly going to miss one.
Evidence please, sounds like bollox to me. What do yuo expect me to do, count them?
If you get started now you might manage it before the end of the century
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