Gloss on woodwork turning yellow??

Gloss on woodwork turning yellow??

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SeeFive

8,280 posts

232 months

Thursday 10th June 2010
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I have been using water-based satin paints for some time now around the house, and find some pros and cons:

Pros: Great smooth finish on well sanded, previously painted surfaces; Stays white far longer than conventional gloss (Dulux / Crown / Trade) even when out of direct sunlight.

Cons: Marks like you could not imagine - the slightest touch leaves a black mark that can only be removed by re-painting; Not particularly suitable for areas likely to get wet (windowsill above sink, architrave near a shower) especially if it is recent build, cheapo mdf rather than real wood.

Having said that, I feel that it looks more contemporary than gloss, so I am happy with the added care needed to keep it looking good.

Phooey

12,574 posts

168 months

Thursday 10th June 2010
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Good advice thanks - keep it coming smile

Busamav

2,954 posts

207 months

Thursday 10th June 2010
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callyman said:
Best way to get a flat finish on a flat door is to take to door off if poss and lay it flat, then use a fine roller, get it on reasonably thick and it will self level to some degree, that will give you a very good smooth finish.
Like to know more about this self levelling paint you talk of.

Wings

5,810 posts

214 months

Thursday 10th June 2010
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callyman said:
Best way to get a flat finish on a flat door is to take to door off if poss and lay it flat, then use a fine roller, get it on reasonably thick and it will self level to some degree, that will give you a very good smooth finish.
The same can be achieved by leaving doors hanging, then as per your post rolling paint on, then brushing over finely with good quality brush.

Phooey

12,574 posts

168 months

Friday 11th June 2010
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xllifts said:
Use permoglaze undercoat and gloss its acrylic and will last for ages. Bit expensive but worth every penny.

Remember preparation is the art to a good finish, always sand back and undercoat then apply gloss.
You are sometimes better to put two thin coats of gloss on as opposed to one thicker coat gives a smooth deep finish.
Like the sound of this Permaglaze stuff - can you get this at B&Q, and if so, who makes it and what is it called. Ta

F i F

43,960 posts

250 months

Friday 11th June 2010
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Wings said:
callyman said:
Best way to get a flat finish on a flat door is to take to door off if poss and lay it flat, then use a fine roller, get it on reasonably thick and it will self level to some degree, that will give you a very good smooth finish.
The same can be achieved by leaving doors hanging, then as per your post rolling paint on, then brushing over finely with good quality brush.
Or simply learn how to paint properly.

Holiday and weekend jobs from school spent working for an old proper craftsman coach painter has stood me well over the intervening decades. Did I learn the value of preparation, preparation, perspiration, preparation or what?

JohnRS4

304 posts

245 months

Friday 11th June 2010
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Have always used Dulux Trade Satinwood and never seems to go yellow. Was recommended by several decoraters who would not use anything else.

Phooey

12,574 posts

168 months

Sunday 13th June 2010
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JohnRS4 said:
Have always used Dulux Trade Satinwood and never seems to go yellow. Was recommended by several decoraters who would not use anything else.
Well, this is what i bought thumbup

Used a water based Dulux trade undercoat/primer (2 coats) then this Dulux trade Satinwood. Only given it one coat so far, and tbh, doesn't look like it will require a second, but may do just to be sure. Don't know what the difference is, but this 'trade' paint seems better quality to the usual paint, only time will tell though.

Cheers all

Wacky Racer

38,099 posts

246 months

Sunday 13th June 2010
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Almost given up on white paint for this very reason....tried virtually every brand, now wherever possible, instead of white I use a very light shade of grey.

For white radiators, "International" (non yellowing) radiator enamel is OK, but it tends to whiff for a day or two till it dries out.

xllifts

3,724 posts

202 months

Sunday 13th June 2010
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Phooey said:
xllifts said:
Use permoglaze undercoat and gloss its acrylic and will last for ages. Bit expensive but worth every penny.

Remember preparation is the art to a good finish, always sand back and undercoat then apply gloss.
You are sometimes better to put two thin coats of gloss on as opposed to one thicker coat gives a smooth deep finish.
Like the sound of this Permaglaze stuff - can you get this at B&Q, and if so, who makes it and what is it called. Ta
Its from a company called Azko and is available from good decorators merchants such as C Brewer & Sons.

Phooey

12,574 posts

168 months

Monday 14th June 2010
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xllifts said:
Phooey said:
xllifts said:
Use permoglaze undercoat and gloss its acrylic and will last for ages. Bit expensive but worth every penny.

Remember preparation is the art to a good finish, always sand back and undercoat then apply gloss.
You are sometimes better to put two thin coats of gloss on as opposed to one thicker coat gives a smooth deep finish.
Like the sound of this Permaglaze stuff - can you get this at B&Q, and if so, who makes it and what is it called. Ta
Its from a company called Azko and is available from good decorators merchants such as C Brewer & Sons.
Thanks, i asked at B&Q but they did not stock it. I didn't realise Permoglaze was a brand, i thought it was an additive or some sort of oil substitute. Went for Dulux Trade in the end, needed it for Saturday morning.

topsparks

1,202 posts

246 months

Monday 14th June 2010
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Akzo nobel now own Dulux,in fact they sold Crown paints to buy it!,we have just had a Dulux account opened and are in the process of getting our mixing machine and stock of bases.