What happened to our dog?

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boobles

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15,241 posts

215 months

Tuesday 27th March 2012
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bexVN said:
Drinking lots very common. A lot of energy burnt up during a seizure.

Btw apologies for incorrect words and spelling in last post, my fault for not checking my predictive text!
Thats ok, I wouldn't dream of pulling somebody up on their spelling after giving me good advice etc. thumbup

theshrew

6,008 posts

184 months

Tuesday 27th March 2012
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My Mums dod used to get fits like how you describe from time to time when he got a bit older. Maybe have 2 within a week then wouldnt have one for months and months.


boobles

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15,241 posts

215 months

Tuesday 27th March 2012
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theshrew said:
My Mums dod used to get fits like how you describe from time to time when he got a bit older. Maybe have 2 within a week then wouldnt have one for months and months.
Does seem to be pretty common in certain breeds. Just don't want him to have another one!

eybic

9,212 posts

174 months

Tuesday 27th March 2012
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Had he eaten anything different? I know one of my Dad's dogs has had seizures but generally they only occur if he has eaten something spicy, apparently dogs can't deal with spicy stuff and that's one of the things that happen.

boobles

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Tuesday 27th March 2012
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eybic said:
Had he eaten anything different? I know one of my Dad's dogs has had seizures but generally they only occur if he has eaten something spicy, apparently dogs can't deal with spicy stuff and that's one of the things that happen.
Not as far as I am aware. I am pretty strict at giving him anything we eat....

boobles

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15,241 posts

215 months

Monday 23rd April 2012
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Well he had another fit lastnight at 10pm & another one thismorning at 6am. Both lasting approx 10secs & lots of violent shaking/grunting noises & peeing himself. What does seem strange is both fits cam directly after working himself up because of seeing other dogs at the front of the house because he tends to bark & run up & down the stairs a few times & generally getting worked up about it. I am wondering if this has something to do with it?

Calling the vets this morning to hopefully get some tests done on him.

bexVN

14,682 posts

211 months

Monday 23rd April 2012
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They may want to check his heart in case it's struggling to cope when he gets worked up.

Hope they get some answers for you so that you can get right again.

boobles

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15,241 posts

215 months

Monday 23rd April 2012
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He did have a heart murmur as a puppy but this seemed to be ok as he got older.

R300will

3,799 posts

151 months

Monday 23rd April 2012
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Sounds like your poor dog has been in the wars a bit! You mentioned he had a tumour earlier in the thread, do you mind if i ask what type it was and where it was found? And if it was removed/treated successfully?

Best of luck seeing the vet as well smile

boobles

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215 months

Monday 23rd April 2012
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R300will said:
Sounds like your poor dog has been in the wars a bit! You mentioned he had a tumour earlier in the thread, do you mind if i ask what type it was and where it was found? And if it was removed/treated successfully?

Best of luck seeing the vet as well smile
He hasn't had the best of times to be honest but it doesn't really stop him from living life to the full & he is very happy.

His tumour was on his side, not to far from his heart but luckily it was benign & was removed without any further issues.

His appointment is 3:15pm today & hopefully get some tests done & find out why he's having them.

R300will

3,799 posts

151 months

Monday 23rd April 2012
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boobles said:
R300will said:
Sounds like your poor dog has been in the wars a bit! You mentioned he had a tumour earlier in the thread, do you mind if i ask what type it was and where it was found? And if it was removed/treated successfully?

Best of luck seeing the vet as well smile
He hasn't had the best of times to be honest but it doesn't really stop him from living life to the full & he is very happy.

His tumour was on his side, not to far from his heart but luckily it was benign & was removed without any further issues.

His appointment is 3:15pm today & hopefully get some tests done & find out why he's having them.
Good please update us on what happens, Was it just a fatty lump under the skin (lipoma)?

boobles

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Monday 23rd April 2012
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R300will said:
Good please update us on what happens, Was it just a fatty lump under the skin (lipoma)?
All I remember the vet telling us was that it was a tumour & it needed removing & tested.
Can't remember if the vet had called it a fatty lump or not.

Will update this once we know bit more this afternoon. Hopefully with good news.

boobles

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Monday 23rd April 2012
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Just got back from the vets & they are certain it's not his heart but they are wanting to do blood tests on Wednesday for liver & brain. They havn't ruled out it being some kind of anxiety attack because of the way he acts when seeing a cat or another dog. He has always been a nervous dog & he constantly nudges things with his nose as if he is distressed & this is always after he has seen something he doesn't like.



Meet Chantry (AKA Chunky Monkey) Doing his neighbourhood watch this evening.




Edited by boobles on Monday 23 April 20:32

Thevet

1,789 posts

233 months

Monday 23rd April 2012
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Doubt very much any connection to heart, ears or anything else like that, you describe classic symptoms of an epileptiform fit, especially in a G retriever, difficult to prove apart from ruling everything else out. As you have seen several fits in a short period of time, it would be prudent to expect more and instigate some form of therapy. Therapy is usually based on using a drug that dulls the "areas" of the brain that set off these brainstorms, but they may have some side-effects in terms of mild sedation. If this type of therapy is set up properly, with monitoring of blood drug levels, it can be brilliantly effective with mininmal noticeable effects. You should watch how your dog responds in what will be a changing situation, maybe slowly maybe fast. Not a very cheerful reply, but it shouldn't be too worrying at the moment, see how the problem develops and how the treatment works.

boobles

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Monday 23rd April 2012
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Thevet said:
Doubt very much any connection to heart, ears or anything else like that, you describe classic symptoms of an epileptiform fit, especially in a G retriever, difficult to prove apart from ruling everything else out. As you have seen several fits in a short period of time, it would be prudent to expect more and instigate some form of therapy. Therapy is usually based on using a drug that dulls the "areas" of the brain that set off these brainstorms, but they may have some side-effects in terms of mild sedation. If this type of therapy is set up properly, with monitoring of blood drug levels, it can be brilliantly effective with mininmal noticeable effects. You should watch how your dog responds in what will be a changing situation, maybe slowly maybe fast. Not a very cheerful reply, but it shouldn't be too worrying at the moment, see how the problem develops and how the treatment works.
Thank you for taking the time to post this.... We are obviously very concerned but at the moment, the vet isn't to concerned & they seem "upbeat" about the whole thing.

Thevet

1,789 posts

233 months

Tuesday 24th April 2012
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To begin with, I wouldn't be too worried, epilepsy is a very manageable condition, it may recede on it's own, stay at the same level of incidence or progress to more frequent fits. Usually it seems to not progress too far/badly. Unless an absolute diagnosis is made, which is often expensive (eg MRI scans et al) and difficult, you have to monitor the progress of the condition with the treatment, assessing blood levels of the drug you're using. However, that's maybe getting a bit ahead of where you are with your dog and vet, talk to them and get them to explain as much of their findings and diagnosis as possible, if you don't understand what they're waffling about tell them so and try again. If that doesn't help, ask here. Let us know how it goes.

boobles

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215 months

Tuesday 24th April 2012
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thumbup Thank you...


Is it possible that his fits are being caused by being "worked up" or "anxious" about something as the last 2 would suggest this.....

Certainly not trying to diagnose his condition but just trying to understand it a bit better.

Powderpuff

355 posts

249 months

Tuesday 24th April 2012
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Sorry to hear Chantry isn't well Lyndon, fingers crossed your vet figures out what's happening with him.

Love the photo of him using the bench to be nosey biggrin

boobles

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Tuesday 24th April 2012
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Powderpuff said:
Sorry to hear Chantry isn't well Lyndon, fingers crossed your vet figures out what's happening with him.

Love the photo of him using the bench to be nosey biggrin
Thanks mate, he certainly keeps us worried at times.
That bench is his & nobody can sit on it! hehe

Thevet

1,789 posts

233 months

Wednesday 25th April 2012
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boobles said:
thumbup Thank you...


Is it possible that his fits are being caused by being "worked up" or "anxious" about something as the last 2 would suggest this.....

Certainly not trying to diagnose his condition but just trying to understand it a bit better.
Certainly possible, any sort of excitement/stress/change can exacerbate fits. Look for connections with what's going on before a fit occurs, unfortunately, it could be almost anything, some of which we are probably completely unaware of.