What happened to our dog?

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Piglet

6,250 posts

255 months

Saturday 9th June 2012
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Thevet said:
talk to them and get them to explain as much of their findings and diagnosis as possible, if you don't understand what they're waffling about tell them so and try again. If that doesn't help, ask here. Let us know how it goes.
I just wanted to remind you of what Thevet said about asking and asking again.

We've got a dog who had/has a probable auto immune condition. We've seen a lot of vets at our practice and we've spent a lot of time at the veterinary hospital (both with and without insurance!). We've spent a lot of time working with the wonderful hospital vets to try to work out what her issues were as she was "complex" (their words!)

You MUST understand exactly what is going on, you need to understand what they have diagnosed (have they?) and what exactly they are treating for. I'd be tempted to suggest that no vet can tell you that any medication is safe and in your shoes 'd want to know exactly what they were thinking so that I could make my own decisions and choices. I'd also challenge the suggestion that brain tumours always result in behavioural issues - I'm no vet but that isn't my experience in humans and I doubt it to be the case in dogs.

A friend of mine has a dog with epilepsy, it is currently medicated but she is very involved in his treatment and manages his dose based on his behaviour. They had a lot of tests before the diagnosis.

I'm guessing you don't have insurance? Personally, I'd want a referral to a specialist to get a better idea of what is actually going on.

Fingers crossed all goes OK, it's horrible seeing our dogs poorly.

Blakeatron

2,514 posts

173 months

Saturday 9th June 2012
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Scarily our lab has recently gone through similar things.

It started last christmas with a fit that only lasted 30 secs or so, he seemed with it but unable to control his legs and not really shaking. Vets said to keep an eye and log everything.

Over the next few months they got more regular to the point it was every few days for upto a minute.

Shaking, not being able to move and then coming around having a drink, cuddle and sleep.

We had an mri scan, spinal fluid check and numerous other checks - luckily insurance agreed as costs were over £3k at this point.

They have decided it is epilepsy and he is n some sedative type medication (dont know the name but can check when home if you like), 1 with his breakfast and 1 with dinner.

He was fit free for nearly 6 months but has had a couple the last few months, basically the vets are waiting until he gets a little worse and then will up the medication. They say there is a limit to how much he can take before it becomes inefective.

He 6 when it started and is nearing 8 now.

Only once has he been slightly aggresive when he came around - and that was snarling at me, but as soon as he came too properly he was fine.

boobles

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15,241 posts

215 months

Wednesday 1st August 2012
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So after almost 9 weeks, chantry had another fit in the early hours. No different to previous ones apart from may have lasted slightly longer. The medication does seem to have made them less frequent.

Powderpuff

355 posts

249 months

Wednesday 1st August 2012
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Sorry to hear Chantry has had another episode frown

Turn7

23,593 posts

221 months

Wednesday 1st August 2012
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Powderpuff said:
Sorry to hear Chantry has had another episode frown
Really sorry to hear this....

Thevet

1,789 posts

233 months

Saturday 4th August 2012
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boobles said:
So after almost 9 weeks, chantry had another fit in the early hours. No different to previous ones apart from may have lasted slightly longer. The medication does seem to have made them less frequent.
this shouldn't surprise you or worry you too much, most epilepsy therapy works by reducing the fits' frequency and severity, while keeping the side-effects to a minimum, it is not usually a cure. Treatment levels can and probably should be monitored and adjusted as you and your dog become familiar with how the situation develops. Not very specific help, but hopefully some reassurance.

Ross1988

1,234 posts

183 months

Saturday 4th August 2012
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My GF old dog had fits that sounds remarkably similar to this, it was caused by epilepsy. So maybe suggest this to a vet?

I'll ask her for more info when she is home next.

ETA: Never read the whole thread!

Edited by Ross1988 on Saturday 4th August 09:18

boobles

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15,241 posts

215 months

Saturday 4th August 2012
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Cheers for the advice & well wishes. thumbup

boobles

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15,241 posts

215 months

Tuesday 12th November 2013
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Just an update really regarding our boy. His fits steadily got worse over the year so Pexion was described for him approx 2 months ago but also remaining on a very small dose of his old tablets. Things didn't improve & infact I would say they got worse with his fits becoming more & more frequent and last weekend was awful with him having 8 fits within 48 hours. He was back at the vets yesterday for about an hour whilst they checked him over & took more bloods (currently waiting for the outcome) but since being put on Pexion his quality of life seems to have deteriorated with him constantly acting as if he is drunk & bumping into things. On the odd occasion he almost seems to have something "bothering" him in his head area because he keeps using his feet as if to try to remove something but not like scratching at his head. His eyes have also started to "twitch" pretty violently and all of this has been told to our vet. For some reason our vet ruled out it being a brain tumour 18 months ago without offering an MRI scan, he just said that it was epilepsy & nothing more severe. Fingers & everything else crossed for our little man. frown

ali_kat

31,988 posts

221 months

Tuesday 12th November 2013
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Damn, this thread had gone so quiet I hoped that Chantry was on the mend!

All paws crossed here

Lemmonie

6,314 posts

255 months

Tuesday 12th November 2013
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Sorry to hear that. I dont have a dog or a pet even but thinking about it hence why I am here. Reading stories like this makes me realise how much thought I need to give the decision. It must be heartbreaking to see a family member be poorly x Hope you get some good news or at least some answers so he can be comfy.

bexVN

14,682 posts

211 months

Tuesday 12th November 2013
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Bugger frown. I know how much Chantry means to you I'm so sorry you're going through this with him. I really hope they can find a way to control his seizures. I wish I could offer more than to say my thoughts are with you frown

boobles

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15,241 posts

215 months

Tuesday 12th November 2013
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Thanks everyone, he seems "normal" again today & playfull. Still waiting for the results from the vets though.

boobles

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15,241 posts

215 months

Wednesday 13th November 2013
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So back down to the vets this morning as his bloods were all perfectly normal. He now wants to see if he's had a stroke or suffering from vestibular syndrome because some of the symptoms described by us.

boobles

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15,241 posts

215 months

Wednesday 13th November 2013
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So all of the above ok, no stroke & no ear infection. He is going back to a higher dose of his previous medicine (Epiphen) once he's weaned of Pexion. The vet is now saying that it's 50/50 wether it's a tumour or not but that fact that he appears fit & healthy & in no signs of any pain means that the vet isn't to concerned either way as some dogs can live pretty much a normal life even with a tumour. We are still undecided if we want an MRI done just to be sure, but all we can do is monitor him & continue as normal.

boobles

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15,241 posts

215 months

Thursday 26th June 2014
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I know it's been a while since I last posted on here but believe it or not our chunky monkey is still with us & still enjoying every single day of his life. His fits have become more frequent (about 1 per week) although he went 16 days without any & ended up having 4 within 48hrs! He is still on the same medication (Epiphen) & having 4 pills per day. His back legs are starting to get weak & I am certain that he is going slightly deaf unless that is just selective hearing! biggrin

He was checked over by the vet couple of weeks ago & they don't seem concered & still maintain that he is healthy for his age (nine & a half) so we continue to enjoy his company & take hime for nice long walks every day & hope that continues for another couple of years.



Edited by boobles on Thursday 26th June 13:55

ali_kat

31,988 posts

221 months

Thursday 26th June 2014
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HereBeMonsters

14,180 posts

182 months

Thursday 26th June 2014
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boobles said:
I am certain that he is going slightly death
Well, that's one way of putting it...

boobles

Original Poster:

15,241 posts

215 months

Thursday 26th June 2014
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HereBeMonsters said:
Well, that's one way of putting it...
hehe Can't believe I did that! yikes

Sy1441

1,116 posts

160 months

Thursday 10th July 2014
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I've got a chocolate lab and he has these fits every so often, maybe once every couple of months. I usually just sit with him like you for 5-10 minutes after till he seems better. His back legs don't work properly after for a few minutes and he walks like he's drunk. Started probably when he was 5, he's just turned 9.