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bexVN
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9,502 posts
80 months
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Hi all, hoping some of you may have some experience of using this drug in their pets (though I obviously don't wish your pets to be in pain!) My little Fitz cat has had long time joint issues with his back legs, long story short he is trying Tramadol for the first time. He's had his first dose tonight and he appears to be high as a kite (even though he's on the low end dose) I was expecting this to an extent but he does seem worse than I thought. I was wondering how quickly your pets got accustomed to the drug and whether to persevere at this dose or to reduce it tomorrow. I will of course be asking my vet tom but as it is a drug with variable reactions I thought I'd ask other pet owners experiences aswell. Thank you in advance 
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Jasandjules
45,369 posts
98 months
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Yes we have used Tramadol on two animals and it was not good for either. One wobbled a bit.. The other seemed very different (like depressed) on it so it was used only sparingly.
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dreamer75
996 posts
97 months
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No, but I've taken it myself and had issues! If animals are anything the same, when you come to take them off it (if you do) wean them off very slowly!
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TackleburyUk
345 posts
59 months
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Our dog used it for two weeks after a double elbow op (bi-lateral Dysplasia)
He was smacked off his face for the two weeks but it helped him lots.
Its a synthetic morphine so pretty strong stuff.
Charlie was on 1 50mg pills twice a day. Didn't do him any harm and certainly helped with his pain control
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bexVN
Original Poster
9,502 posts
80 months
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Thanks for the replies, He was still not with it this morning after the dose last night, so we've decided not to continue the current dose regime and reduce to half a tablet bid (2.5mg bid instead of 7.5mg tid), much lower than the guidlelines and slowly increase to effect. I want him pain free but not off his head esp as this is hopefully a longer term treatment, not just a post op recovery (it would've been ideal if it was for this!) He is exceptionally sensitive to Buprenorphine and has to have half the normal dose so it's not a complete surprise that he reacted in this way (though I did try and avoid it by going low end of the dose range) I do have such a 'special' cat 
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TackleburyUk
345 posts
59 months
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TackleburyUk said: Our dog used it for two weeks after a double elbow op (bi-lateral Dysplasia)
He was smacked off his face for the two weeks but it helped him lots.
Its a synthetic morphine so pretty strong stuff.
Charlie was on 1 50mg (i think, maybe 10!!!) pills twice a day. Didn't do him any harm and certainly helped with his pain control
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Jasandjules
45,369 posts
98 months
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Bex have a look into Willow Tea..........
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bexVN
Original Poster
9,502 posts
80 months
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Jasandjules said: Bex have a look into Willow Tea.......... Is it a natural nsaid/ pain relief...I'm open to trying it, I do have to be a bit careful as he has several different ailments that have to be considered I'm not having a lot of luck on google, the only thing I have found relating to Willow so far is to help with calming/ ferociousness, malicousness and toileting outside of a litter tray, none of these are applicable??
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Jasandjules
45,369 posts
98 months
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zip929
555 posts
46 months
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My old dog Alfie was on it for almost 18 months.
He had osteosarcoma of the distal radius. Basically a tumour in the middle part of his leg.
He took tramadol along with very expensive monthly bisphosphonate treatments.
When he was diagnosed in August 2009 the vet said he probably had 6 months left.
He eventually left us in January 2011. The bisphosphonates had given him a good extension of life.
The tramadol did not seem to effect him in any negative way.
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bexVN
Original Poster
9,502 posts
80 months
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Jasandjules said: Well it seems to cover everything!? However I have a few concerns, how much testing on cats has there been, cats can react weirdly to things, what would the dose rate be, could there be a risk on his kidneys? (this wouldn't stop me using it just would want to be aware) and being a blood thinning agent concerns me a bit! If you have a cat related site re: this medicine I'd be really grateful, if not I do know a homeopathic vet I could email. Sorry for all the questions!!
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Kiltie
3,733 posts
115 months
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bexVN said: Sorry for all the questions!! Says she who has been the most helpful person here since the inception of ACG&S.  Wise up woman! - everyone is delighted for the opportunity to give something back to you.  Cheers, Eric
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bexVN
Original Poster
9,502 posts
80 months
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:heh: thanks Eric, never even thought of it like that! I realise that I ask a lot of questions about products I'm not so familiar with esp when they are to be used on my four legged friends (and when applicable my son, I'm a doctors nightmare!!), can't help it!
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Jasandjules
45,369 posts
98 months
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bexVN said: Well it seems to cover everything!?
However I have a few concerns, how much testing on cats has there been, cats can react weirdly to things, what would the dose rate be, could there be a risk on his kidneys? (this wouldn't stop me using it just would want to be aware) and being a blood thinning agent concerns me a bit!
If you have a cat related site re: this medicine I'd be really grateful, if not I do know a homeopathic vet I could email.
Sorry for all the questions!! I've not used it on cats, only dogs so I would not like to say. I would imagine the Grammas site will be able to help with some questions - they were very helpful to us when we were asking about our dog. One thing I will say though is that it is not tasty stuff so the cat might not be keen to drink it - but it can be mixed with lactofree (at least we did!). Do you know Alan Slater?
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Nedzilla
1,837 posts
43 months
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Never gave it to a pet but I got some off a mate as an emergency after doing my back in and was completely off my box for about 12 hours!!
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bexVN
Original Poster
9,502 posts
80 months
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Jasandjules said: bexVN said: Well it seems to cover everything!?
However I have a few concerns, how much testing on cats has there been, cats can react weirdly to things, what would the dose rate be, could there be a risk on his kidneys? (this wouldn't stop me using it just would want to be aware) and being a blood thinning agent concerns me a bit!
If you have a cat related site re: this medicine I'd be really grateful, if not I do know a homeopathic vet I could email.
Sorry for all the questions!! I've not used it on cats, only dogs so I would not like to say. I would imagine the Grammas site will be able to help with some questions - they were very helpful to us when we were asking about our dog. One thing I will say though is that it is not tasty stuff so the cat might not be keen to drink it - but it can be mixed with lactofree (at least we did!). Do you know Alan Slater? No, Holly Nash and also Nick Thompson (I assume Alan Slater is a homeopathic vet)
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bexVN
Original Poster
9,502 posts
80 months
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Nedzilla said: Never gave it to a pet but I got some off a mate as an emergency after doing my back in and was completely off my box for about 12 hours!!  apparently it doesn't work in all people as it relies on an enzyme to break it down to its effective components and some people do not have this enzyme. They don't if this could be the same for dogs or cats (not been tested as not licensed). Judging by my cats reaction it he definitely did repsond to it and he probably felt like you did!!
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Jasandjules
45,369 posts
98 months
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bexVN said: No, Holly Nash and also Nick Thompson (I assume Alan Slater is a homeopathic vet) Yes he is. In theory any good homeopath will be able to talk you through Willow tea though.
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bexVN
Original Poster
9,502 posts
80 months
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Jasandjules said: bexVN said: No, Holly Nash and also Nick Thompson (I assume Alan Slater is a homeopathic vet) Yes he is. In theory any good homeopath will be able to talk you through Willow tea though. Ok, thanks for the info, I'll give one of them a bell. Good news, he was much better on the low dose, could still see it affected him but functioning this time . Plan is to slowly up dose to ensure therapeutic levels.
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Jasandjules
45,369 posts
98 months
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bexVN said: Ok, thanks for the info, I'll give one of them a bell. Good stuff. One of them might also have other ideas about painkillers too!??
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