Dogs

[ali_kat]

graphene said:

ali_kat said:

They are a brilliant concept.

I think here, we would have them 'ruled' by thugs & people scared to use them

The ones I have seen, in city parks, have been far too small, and are always covered in crap, since people assume they can disregard normal poop-scooping regimes. I wouldn't/didn't bother with them. They seem designed to pander to sections of the community that don't like dogs.

Interesting, they are meant to be large areas. Never seen one, but I like the concept.

Gods, I want a dog again!!

[RB Will]

boobles said:

Are them photos of you & your child?

nah just plucked them off google. I have a much bigger more dangerous wolf.

[Tumbler]

RB Will said:

As a side note I do think it would be nice if in this country we had a few dog parks, like you see in America they just have a patch of land fenced in for the dogs to run about and play. Then people can't moan about stepping in dog st or being chased/ slobbered on, unless they were daft enough to go in there of course.

I have one local to me, it's a very well thought out idea, it also has a specific area for puppy socialising.

We also have parks which do not allow dogs and areas where dogs must be on a lead, all the coastal areas near me have a mixture of dog friendly and no dogs allowed areas.

[icetea]

ali_kat said:

Actually, more accidents are caused by/involve people with licences than those without.

Thats a false argument.... more people are driving with licenses than without so of course they're involved in more. Not even sure why you're bothering trying to make that point... are you seriously suggesting that having driving licenses and insurance as legal requirements don't improve road safety?

[CAPP0]

Fuel to the fire. The "non-dog" posters, which breeds do you think are most likely to attack you? A quick Google found this, ordered by aggression (and sure, you can dress statistics up to show whatever you like, but still):

1. Dachshunds
2. Chihuahua
3. Jack Russell
4. Australian Cattle Dog
5. Cocker Spaniel
6. Beagle
7. Border Collie
8. Pit Bull Terrier
9. Great Dane
10. English Springer Spaniel

Spot the Staffie, Rottie, GSD, Dobermann, etc etc.

I'm sure I once read somewhere else that the most common dog to deliver a bite is a Lab, but I never found out whether that was weighted to reflect the number of them in circulation or not.

[icetea]

CAPP0 said:

Fuel to the fire. The "non-dog" posters, which breeds do you think are most likely to attack you? A quick Google found this, ordered by aggression (and sure, you can dress statistics up to show whatever you like, but still):

1. Dachshunds
2. Chihuahua
3. Jack Russell
4. Australian Cattle Dog
5. Cocker Spaniel
6. Beagle
7. Border Collie
8. Pit Bull Terrier
9. Great Dane
10. English Springer Spaniel

Spot the Staffie, Rottie, GSD, Dobermann, etc etc.

I'm sure I once read somewhere else that the most common dog to deliver a bite is a Lab, but I never found out whether that was weighted to reflect the number of them in circulation or not.

Pit bull at 8th on your list... yet its won the title for most deaths caused 10 years in a row - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_dog_att...

[CAPP0]

icetea said:

Pit bull at 8th on your list... yet its won the title for most deaths caused 10 years in a row - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_dog_att...

Not "my" list - it came from here.

Other websites stating dog aggression by breed may be available and may produce differing results

[ali_kat]

icetea said:

ali_kat said:

Actually, more accidents are caused by/involve people with licences than those without.

Thats a false argument.... more people are driving with licenses than without so of course they're involved in more. Not even sure why you're bothering trying to make that point... are you seriously suggesting that having driving licenses and insurance as legal requirements don't improve road safety?

No, I'm just trying to show you how stupid your posts are

[ali_kat]

icetea said:

Pit bull at 8th on your list... yet its won the title for most deaths caused 10 years in a row - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_dog_att...

In the USA! And 90% of those were as a result of Human Neglect! ie kids being left with dogs unattended. Humans walking into areas they shouldn't be.

Oh, and BTW from your list - Jack Russell Terrier Killed by his family's dog[124]

[icetea]

ali_kat said:

In the USA! And 90% of those were as a result of Human Neglect! ie kids being left with dogs unattended. Humans walking into areas they shouldn't be.

Oh, and BTW from your list - Jack Russell Terrier Killed by his family's dog[124]

You just seem a bit thick, so this will be my last post on this thread - I"m unsubscribing now so the floor is yours

Human neglect as a factor is undeniable... I've never said anything other than that. But the simple facts are that a pit bull or similar is a far more dangerous dog if left neglected, than say a Chihuaha.

[ali_kat]

icetea said:

this will be my last post on this thread - I"m unsubscribing now so the floor is yours

Objective achieved!

Y'all can thank me later

[hadenough!]

To thoes going on about staffies. You do realise there is a whole selection of variations within the bull terrier family and that they differ signifficantly.

So a Pit Bull Terrier is different from a Staffordshire Bull Terrier which in turn is different from an English Bull Terrier.

Thought not, why worry about facts.

[Upatdawn]

hadenough! said:

To thoes going on about staffies. You do realise there is a whole selection of variations within the bull terrier family and that they differ signifficantly.

So a Pit Bull Terrier is different from a Staffordshire Bull Terrier which in turn is different from an English Bull Terrier.

Thought not, why worry about facts.

you expect them to know the difference? sounds like some have "left" and "right" on their shoes to be honest

[Fozziebear]

ali_kat said:

icetea said:

this will be my last post on this thread - I"m unsubscribing now so the floor is yours

Objective achieved!

Y'all can thank me later

Well done for grinding the fktard down! 10 extra points for doing it eloquently

[Upatdawn]

Except hes not gone....

[Pig Skill]

Right, right, right. Firstly I'll apologise for my 'tone' it seems to have upset a few of the sensitive types

That said, I do still stand by my claims and still think dogs should be on a lead and muzzled. Full stop.

Yes, there are many other topics in life one could debate and frankly to question my views on everything else in the universe is a piss poor way of making a defence for dogs.

No matter how much you love your dog, no matter how cute they are, no matter how soft they appear to be; like it or not, they have the potential to maim and have proved so in so many sad occurrences.

The thing is, oh soppy dog lovers, you may well be able to understand your dog on a very basic level (i.e., food, drink, walking and stting) but nobody can fully understand a dogs mood. Nobody can talk to and verbally communicate with dogs, nobody can asses them and predict if they may just bite, if they may just misinterpret the action of an unassuming or boisterous child.

No matter what you say, there is no guarantee that they would never flip, and because of this when out in public they should be on a lead and muzzled at all times.

Those are my views and that's that.

I thank you.

[Upatdawn]

so you want my dog on a lead and muzzled all the time?

why, whats to bite?

[Upatdawn]

The domestic dog (Canis lupus familiaris),is a subspecies of the gray wolf (Canis lupus), a member of the Canidae family of the mammalian order Carnivora, and therefore its genes and DNA have the POTENTIAL for harm but as the distance from the wolf gets greater so the instinct for violence gets less, we have a neighbour with a viking type name but he doesnt do rape and pillage

(except on bank holidays.....sometimes)

Our cat is related to the Lion/Cougar/Lynx big cat family but cant bring down a deer....

[Fozziebear]

I must be related to a bear, I sleep all winter, I'm grumpy if woken early and I like to scratch my nuts

[GokTweed]

Pig Skill said:

Right, right, right. Firstly I'll apologise for my 'tone' it seems to have upset a few of the sensitive types

That said, I do still stand by my claims and still think dogs should be on a lead and muzzled. Full stop.

Yes, there are many other topics in life one could debate and frankly to question my views on everything else in the universe is a piss poor way of making a defence for dogs.

No matter how much you love your dog, no matter how cute they are, no matter how soft they appear to be; like it or not, they have the potential to maim and have proved so in so many sad occurrences.

The thing is, oh soppy dog lovers, you may well be able to understand your dog on a very basic level (i.e., food, drink, walking and stting) but nobody can fully understand a dogs mood. Nobody can talk to and verbally communicate with dogs, nobody can asses them and predict if they may just bite, if they may just misinterpret the action of an unassuming or boisterous child.

No matter what you say, there is no guarantee that they would never flip, and because of this when out in public they should be on a lead and muzzled at all times.

Those are my views and that's that.

I thank you.

I refer the honourable gentleman to Caesar Milan.

Also i have the potential to do some serious damage to you when i hit you with my car at 60mph. Should i be banned from driving because i have the potential to do it. How do you know i won't do it?

Exactly. Don't the dogs freedom. It's against the law to do so anyway, ban the chavtastic tits that are the owners who let them go around biting people.