China - cruelty to animals
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rosie11 said:
Vipers said:
Not so long ago, we used to let dogs tear live foxs apart!
Not even for food, just for fun.
Fox hunting still goes on, always will, father in law goes to watch as a spectator and 2 weeks ago saw a vixen torn apart and cubs sprawled onto the grass from her belly.Not even for food, just for fun.
Davey S2 said:
rosie11 said:
Vipers said:
Not so long ago, we used to let dogs tear live foxs apart!
Not even for food, just for fun.
Fox hunting still goes on, always will, father in law goes to watch as a spectator and 2 weeks ago saw a vixen torn apart and cubs sprawled onto the grass from her belly.Not even for food, just for fun.
Davey S2 said:
rosie11 said:
Vipers said:
Not so long ago, we used to let dogs tear live foxs apart!
Not even for food, just for fun.
Fox hunting still goes on, always will, father in law goes to watch as a spectator and 2 weeks ago saw a vixen torn apart and cubs sprawled onto the grass from her belly.Not even for food, just for fun.
The chickens we keep are under constant attack by these cute and cuddly foxes. The foxe will evetunally gnaw their way through wire fences or dig under brick walls. They will even gnaw through a wooden plank in a night if they are hungry enough. When they do there are chicken bits everywhere with little regard for whether the chicken is dead or not. I once dug one of our particularly favoured chickens out of a foxhole that had been screeching the next morning. Its all part of the fairly cruel thing which is nature.
The only problem is the basil brush generation who don't seem to have a clue.
julian64 said:
Davey S2 said:
rosie11 said:
Vipers said:
Not so long ago, we used to let dogs tear live foxs apart!
Not even for food, just for fun.
Fox hunting still goes on, always will, father in law goes to watch as a spectator and 2 weeks ago saw a vixen torn apart and cubs sprawled onto the grass from her belly.Not even for food, just for fun.
The chickens we keep are under constant attack by these cute and cuddly foxes. The foxe will evetunally gnaw their way through wire fences or dig under brick walls. They will even gnaw through a wooden plank in a night if they are hungry enough. When they do there are chicken bits everywhere with little regard for whether the chicken is dead or not. I once dug one of our particularly favoured chickens out of a foxhole that had been screeching the next morning. Its all part of the fairly cruel thing which is nature.
The only problem is the basil brush generation who don't seem to have a clue.
My Bold to emphasise why they do it.
Davey S2 said:
julian64 said:
Its all part of the fairly cruel thing which is nature.
Spot on. The fox kills for survival.Fox hunters do it for 'sport'
You can't look at a cute and cuddly fox and attribute it human feelings, and the next minute attribute the damage it does as survival, and therefore not the foxes fault.
In reality it probably has both or neither.
There is at least legislation in this country to protect animals, its not perfect but we are so far ahead of the chinese. Most sites on the web conclude that china is the worst when it comes to animal cruelty, I dont think that all the chinese are cruel, but as a nation, they are.
I am really struggling with the fact that some chinese puposelly inflict the greatest pain as this makes the meat taste better, i mean how can that be acceptable to anyone.
I am really struggling with the fact that some chinese puposelly inflict the greatest pain as this makes the meat taste better, i mean how can that be acceptable to anyone.
Do you struggle with the fact that other people eat meat?
That other people may not share other views you hold?
That you are talking about people half a world away who don't know, will probably never hear, and clearly don't share your views?
On a car forum?
Did you type in the wrong url yesterday?
That other people may not share other views you hold?
That you are talking about people half a world away who don't know, will probably never hear, and clearly don't share your views?
On a car forum?
Did you type in the wrong url yesterday?
grumbledoak said:
Do you struggle with the fact that other people eat meat?
That other people may not share other views you hold?
That you are talking about people half a world away who don't know, will probably never hear, and clearly don't share your views?
On a car forum?
Did you type in the wrong url yesterday?
Didnt think it was restricted to cars, neither do you judging by your recent posting!That other people may not share other views you hold?
That you are talking about people half a world away who don't know, will probably never hear, and clearly don't share your views?
On a car forum?
Did you type in the wrong url yesterday?
M888SXY said:
Yes it is very wrong, and my good lady (Chinese) agrees.
But she also has a point when she says we, as westerners, have no right to tell them what is right and what is wrong. Different culture, full stop.
A bit provocative maybe but pity we can't treat out families as well as they treat theirs.
Sorry but when it comes to skinning something alive and chucking it in a skip on top of other dying animals In agony I'm going to go right ahead and tell them they're wrong and I imagine there would be a long queue to do so.But she also has a point when she says we, as westerners, have no right to tell them what is right and what is wrong. Different culture, full stop.
A bit provocative maybe but pity we can't treat out families as well as they treat theirs.
garos said:
Didnt think it was restricted to cars, neither do you judging by your recent posting!
Oh, it isn't. But your opening post could have saved us a lot of reading with a "tl;dr: Vegetable rights and peace." You certainly aren't going to achieve much change in China by posting here. Most Chinese are a too short of protein to be all that choosy.Gassing Station | All Creatures Great & Small | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff