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TheLordJohn said:
1) It sort of is fine, it's just you won't get the best out of them and they'll never be truly, 100% happy. Rabbits properly come into their own when they have another one to live with. When we got Jessica for Fudge, he went from 7/10 to 10/10. They ignored each other for a few days, then sussed each other out (courting) and then were inseparable (love).
2) I won't recommend a cage size as there is no reason at all to keep a rabbit in a cage.
3) Ditto above.
4) Would always recommend a rescue rabbit. Otherwise you're just funding national companies like PAH who have very, very dubious procurement systems in place for live animals.
If they keep selling them, they'll keep buying them and people will keep breeding them.
PS - They're the 3rd most put down animals in the UK after dogs and cats. A lot of which is due to huge over-breeding by greedy w
kers.
PPS - If you want to know if you should rescue 1 or 2, look at my third and fourth photos above
PPPS - https://www.facebook.com/yorkshiresrabbitretreat
Thanks for the info.2) I won't recommend a cage size as there is no reason at all to keep a rabbit in a cage.
3) Ditto above.
4) Would always recommend a rescue rabbit. Otherwise you're just funding national companies like PAH who have very, very dubious procurement systems in place for live animals.
If they keep selling them, they'll keep buying them and people will keep breeding them.
PS - They're the 3rd most put down animals in the UK after dogs and cats. A lot of which is due to huge over-breeding by greedy w
kers.PPS - If you want to know if you should rescue 1 or 2, look at my third and fourth photos above
PPPS - https://www.facebook.com/yorkshiresrabbitretreat
Edited by TheLordJohn on Tuesday 4th October 15:47
You mean if the rabbit has a room, there's no need for a cage?
I think I messaged the rabbit retreat a while ago via. Facebook (I'm in Sheffield), but didn't get a reply.
dr_gn said:
Thanks for the info.
You mean if the rabbit has a room, there's no need for a cage?
I think I messaged the rabbit retreat a while ago via. Facebook (I'm in Sheffield), but didn't get a reply.
I've found that with a few charities. It's no excuse for not getting in touch with potential adopters, but don't underestimate just how busy all animal charities can be. You mean if the rabbit has a room, there's no need for a cage?
I think I messaged the rabbit retreat a while ago via. Facebook (I'm in Sheffield), but didn't get a reply.
Also, FB has a habit of storing new messages from none friends in some weird and wonderful places.
Our two have the tiled utility room (we are temporarily in Gibraltar). It's around 8 M sq. So they get shut in there on a night when we go to bed, then let in to the rest of the house in the morning when we get up.
Training, and learning to rabbit proof your home can be difficult. Basically, if you can get the rabbits to get into the habit (and get the scent) of weeing in their litter tray, you're laughing.
We have a very large cat litter tray which we fill with wood pellets across 3/4 of it and their food (hay) in the last quarter. That way, when they eat, they poo where they're sitting
If you do choose to let your rabbits have access to your house, you'll soon learn not to leave iPhone charging cables lying on the floor, TV cables/wiring accessible etc.
We have a traditional rabbit cage base (plastic, around 2m by .75m which their litter tray and wooden house is in. But then they have the utility room (ideal as it's tiled) to spend their time in during the night.
In my experience, the boys are nosey little b
ds and the girls are more shy. Neuter them both, if you do get two. Also, your local generic animal charity could well have a rabbit or two in. Doesn't have to be a rabbit specific place.
Also, don't just let them have the run of where you'll let them eventually. Sure fire way to confuse their little bladders and intestines...! Just build up their access gradually, then they'll learn where they have to run back to for the toilet.
They have a hellish sweet tooth, but don't feed them human sweet things; biscuits etc; they're really bad for their mouth/teeth and will do a lot more harm than good.
If you are an animal person and let them live in your house, be prepared to become very attached...!
Ask any more questions as and when and i'll try and answer from my experience.
Edited by TheLordJohn on Tuesday 4th October 18:20
Edited by TheLordJohn on Tuesday 4th October 18:22
I agree with Lord John on some points.
We went from having 1 bun to having two and it was the best thing we could of done as the first one totally changed his behaviour.
As for a cage..... We have a cage that's 1.2m long that we got online just Google and a lot come up. 1 of the doors is never closed but one is and ours always find it comforting that they know they can go there and we won't or anyone else won't bother them. We have their cat litter in there, hay and a ledge they love to sit on. They do have full roam of the dining table room when we aren't here and full house when we are here as we feel they should have as much room to roam and explore as possible.
Point 4 we are actually going to build a big outdoor pen for them next year. We would like to leave them out for free roam but there's a fox that comes into the garden and we wouldn't feel comfortable leaving them out with free roam incase anything happens.
Rescue rabbits are the best thing you can ever get and i wood always get a rescue if anything I think rescue rabbits are more fun and just want so much love and attention from people.
If you want any advice please feel free to pm me and I'll give you as much info as I can and answer any questions you have.
We went from having 1 bun to having two and it was the best thing we could of done as the first one totally changed his behaviour.
As for a cage..... We have a cage that's 1.2m long that we got online just Google and a lot come up. 1 of the doors is never closed but one is and ours always find it comforting that they know they can go there and we won't or anyone else won't bother them. We have their cat litter in there, hay and a ledge they love to sit on. They do have full roam of the dining table room when we aren't here and full house when we are here as we feel they should have as much room to roam and explore as possible.
Point 4 we are actually going to build a big outdoor pen for them next year. We would like to leave them out for free roam but there's a fox that comes into the garden and we wouldn't feel comfortable leaving them out with free roam incase anything happens.
Rescue rabbits are the best thing you can ever get and i wood always get a rescue if anything I think rescue rabbits are more fun and just want so much love and attention from people.
If you want any advice please feel free to pm me and I'll give you as much info as I can and answer any questions you have.
Thank you,
Your right, I am so grateful that he didn't fall back into bad hands, I don't think anyone could have loved that little guy more.
He was a very hungry bun, always eating. Vet believed he had eaten too quick or eaten something he shouldn't have (I have checked all furniture and found no evidence of this) causing a blockage hence the big hard tummy and the lack of appetite. I didn't want him cutting open to investigate, it won't bring him back and I needed Cinders to be able to say goodbye so I decided against that. I am told it was the shock that actually killed him
Your right, I am so grateful that he didn't fall back into bad hands, I don't think anyone could have loved that little guy more.
He was a very hungry bun, always eating. Vet believed he had eaten too quick or eaten something he shouldn't have (I have checked all furniture and found no evidence of this) causing a blockage hence the big hard tummy and the lack of appetite. I didn't want him cutting open to investigate, it won't bring him back and I needed Cinders to be able to say goodbye so I decided against that. I am told it was the shock that actually killed him
So sorry to hear of your loss, axgizmo. But you gave little Red the love and care which had been so cruelly denied to him when he was young - at least part of his life had been very happy.
If bunny-proofing a house, as well as cables, wall paper seams and other obviously attractive items, don't leave TV remote controls lying around - my friend's little monsters nibbled the buttons off two of them! Explaining that a new remote was needed because a bunny had eaten the original must have been fun...
If bunny-proofing a house, as well as cables, wall paper seams and other obviously attractive items, don't leave TV remote controls lying around - my friend's little monsters nibbled the buttons off two of them! Explaining that a new remote was needed because a bunny had eaten the original must have been fun...
axgizmo said:
Also, don't let guests leave handbags/ coats on the floor or they may well get nibbled
Shoes, handbags, coats, cables, remote controls, candles, carpet, rugs etc.Our rabbits live in the conservatory. Plenty of chairs, tables, boxes and other things for them to recline on (and shed on) though it can be a bit of a malteaser fest if they decide to go on a protest.
Both our latest rabbits are from the local RSPCA (West Hatch, if anyone in Somerset is interested). They have some slight (!) behavioural issues regarding food but otherwise fine. I don't think you can really keep one by itself unless you are with it a lot.
I miss him every day, and get teary eyed when I walk out of the bedroom in the morning and he's not there in the hallway waiting for his breakfast but it is early days. To add to my heartbreak Cinders has started sleeping in his spot meaning I do a double take every morning 
so she clearly misses him just as much. I have moments where I think about what I could have done differently but then I realise, if I had, and he'd still died, I would have blamed myself for something else so I know I am just beating myself up over it and that will fade eventually. I know I did him well and gave him everything he could wish for so I'm happy with that. We have his ashes back now, so he is back home where he belongs.
Cinders is doing ok, as Red suffered with Snuffles and Cinders was never treated I took her for a check up at the vets. He checked her nose, ears, eyes, tummy, temperature(sorry Cinders) & said he cant see any signs of ill health, which is good.
We are going to meet a bun called Frank on Thursday this week, I don't know much about him other than he is "outgoing and energetic" which is just what Cinders needs to bring her out of her shell again. I never ever wanted to lose Gareth or Red but i'm looking forward to the chance to help another bun
so she clearly misses him just as much. I have moments where I think about what I could have done differently but then I realise, if I had, and he'd still died, I would have blamed myself for something else so I know I am just beating myself up over it and that will fade eventually. I know I did him well and gave him everything he could wish for so I'm happy with that. We have his ashes back now, so he is back home where he belongs.Cinders is doing ok, as Red suffered with Snuffles and Cinders was never treated I took her for a check up at the vets. He checked her nose, ears, eyes, tummy, temperature(sorry Cinders) & said he cant see any signs of ill health, which is good.
We are going to meet a bun called Frank on Thursday this week, I don't know much about him other than he is "outgoing and energetic" which is just what Cinders needs to bring her out of her shell again. I never ever wanted to lose Gareth or Red but i'm looking forward to the chance to help another bun
axgizmo said:
I miss him every day, and get teary eyed when I walk out of the bedroom in the morning and he's not there in the hallway waiting for his breakfast but it is early days. To add to my heartbreak Cinders has started sleeping in his spot meaning I do a double take every morning so she clearly misses him just as much. I have moments where I think about what I could have done differently but then I realise, if I had, and he'd still died, I would have blamed myself for something else so I know I am just beating myself up over it and that will fade eventually. I know I did him well and gave him everything he could wish for so I'm happy with that. We have his ashes back now, so he is back home where he belongs.
Cinders is doing ok, as Red suffered with Snuffles and Cinders was never treated I took her for a check up at the vets. He checked her nose, ears, eyes, tummy, temperature(sorry Cinders) & said he cant see any signs of ill health, which is good.
We are going to meet a bun called Frank on Thursday this week, I don't know much about him other than he is "outgoing and energetic" which is just what Cinders needs to bring her out of her shell again. I never ever wanted to lose Gareth or Red but i'm looking forward to the chance to help another bun
I ADORE pets with 'human' names. Frank is a great one. so she clearly misses him just as much. I have moments where I think about what I could have done differently but then I realise, if I had, and he'd still died, I would have blamed myself for something else so I know I am just beating myself up over it and that will fade eventually. I know I did him well and gave him everything he could wish for so I'm happy with that. We have his ashes back now, so he is back home where he belongs.Cinders is doing ok, as Red suffered with Snuffles and Cinders was never treated I took her for a check up at the vets. He checked her nose, ears, eyes, tummy, temperature(sorry Cinders) & said he cant see any signs of ill health, which is good.
We are going to meet a bun called Frank on Thursday this week, I don't know much about him other than he is "outgoing and energetic" which is just what Cinders needs to bring her out of her shell again. I never ever wanted to lose Gareth or Red but i'm looking forward to the chance to help another bun
Our boy wabbit is Roger, girl is Jessica, and dog is Bruce
My mate has a lab called George; great name.
Frank looks ace. Good luck with however you choose to proceed, whenever it is.
You're in the perpetual bunny cycle - get one to be a friend to your other one, one dies, replace, other dies, replace, etc etc!
I'm the same, love human names for animals. My best friend had a hamster called Frank (turned out to be Frankie - PAH again...)
It is a vicious but fluffy and lovely circle, I'm just a little worried that I'll look at him and think "but he's just not my Red" I just need to think of Cinders and what she needs
It is a vicious but fluffy and lovely circle, I'm just a little worried that I'll look at him and think "but he's just not my Red" I just need to think of Cinders and what she needs
So Frank is now part of the family. He stayed in our room last night as my spare cage is at Mum and Dad's (getting it today).
He slept on our bed with us, little monkey! He is definitely a people bunny, loves being stroked & follows us around everywhere. He is really relaxed but energetic and inquisitive so perfect for Cinders. I can't wait to introduce them. not looking forward to the bonding process again, this will be my 3rd time at it.
The pic's:
I don't understand why that pic is upside down. It's right way round on my pc!
He slept on our bed with us, little monkey! He is definitely a people bunny, loves being stroked & follows us around everywhere. He is really relaxed but energetic and inquisitive so perfect for Cinders. I can't wait to introduce them. not looking forward to the bonding process again, this will be my 3rd time at it.
The pic's:
I don't understand why that pic is upside down. It's right way round on my pc!
He's really beautiful.
Don't want to set you off again, but Red was something else, so Frank has a lot to live up to...!
Jessica is slowly getting better. I am moving away from the thought that she'll be leaving us soon and feeling more optimistic as the days go by.
My God I love these little things
Don't want to set you off again, but Red was something else, so Frank has a lot to live up to...!
Jessica is slowly getting better. I am moving away from the thought that she'll be leaving us soon and feeling more optimistic as the days go by.
My God I love these little things
Edited by TheLordJohn on Monday 17th October 12:52
I'm really tempted too now to be honest, but I wont. There's been no fighting, no nipping or circling. They are lying next to each other, grooming each other and not territorial over food/ litter tray. I think they're both just glad of the company, he's always been on his own and she is used to being with another bun.
At the moment they sleep in indoor cages next to each other but when i'm home they are out in the living room together (this weekend I have mostly been home so they have spent most of the weekend together). I'll probably carry on with this arrangement until the weekend (I work 9am til 5 and go to bed around 11 so they will have a good 5 hours together each night) then i'll probably sleep in the living room with them on Friday night to see how they get on if there's no drama they will be free run from then (with notifications turned "on" on the bunny cam, just in case
At the moment they sleep in indoor cages next to each other but when i'm home they are out in the living room together (this weekend I have mostly been home so they have spent most of the weekend together). I'll probably carry on with this arrangement until the weekend (I work 9am til 5 and go to bed around 11 so they will have a good 5 hours together each night) then i'll probably sleep in the living room with them on Friday night to see how they get on if there's no drama they will be free run from then (with notifications turned "on" on the bunny cam, just in case
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