Cardisure advice
Discussion
Hi,
My Westie is on cardisure tablets for bradycardia. The pills say they should be taken one hour before food for better absorption. However, one website I saw only says without food, no suggestion of eating afterwards.
The question I have is does my dog have to eat after the pill has been taken?
As they are meant to be taken 12 hours apart she'd be having a meal at 9pm in the evening if she had to eat an hour after. If I can ignore her eating afterwards then it becomes a much more easy regime for me and her.
Thanks.
My Westie is on cardisure tablets for bradycardia. The pills say they should be taken one hour before food for better absorption. However, one website I saw only says without food, no suggestion of eating afterwards.
The question I have is does my dog have to eat after the pill has been taken?
As they are meant to be taken 12 hours apart she'd be having a meal at 9pm in the evening if she had to eat an hour after. If I can ignore her eating afterwards then it becomes a much more easy regime for me and her.
Thanks.
No they don't have to eat 1 hour after. The absorbitive effect of the drug is reduced if given to close too food. A 1 hour gap is the minimum time to ensure food does not affect absorption, the gap can be longer, if this is easier.
Can you not alter the times of the meds to allow her to be fed earlier as she may end up missing out on meals. You'll need to know she hasn't eaten several hours before the meds.
Eg tablets at 7am and 7pm. Whilst 12hrs is the ideal you could get away with eg 7am and 6.30pm if that helps a bit.
Can you not alter the times of the meds to allow her to be fed earlier as she may end up missing out on meals. You'll need to know she hasn't eaten several hours before the meds.
Eg tablets at 7am and 7pm. Whilst 12hrs is the ideal you could get away with eg 7am and 6.30pm if that helps a bit.
Edited by bexVN on Thursday 19th September 17:29
Thanks Bex,
The issue is that, as a 16 year old stuck-in-her-ways fusspot, she now starts to get very "jittery" at around 5pm and seemingly desperate to eat (her bowl is emptied at a rate of knots
).
So the current regime is Pill at around 7am, Breakfast at 8. Then lunch at around 12pm and then in the evening it's pill at 5pm and eat at 6. So that's 10 hours apart. Sometimes, because she's old and I work at home so can let her, she'll sleep until 8-8:30 so she may not eat until 9:30-10 but she will still get jittery for food around 5pm.
I thought if I separate the pill regime from the food completely in the evening I can feed her at 5 and give her the pill at around 8pm thus ensuring as close to 12 hours as possible.
Make sense?
Just to clarify, the reason she eats 3 meals (sometimes 4) is that she has a problem (which may be connected to the heart issues and Westie chest) that any large meal seems to cause very bad stomach pains where she cries and goes on a mental walkabout in the garden for an hour or longer until she either brings the food up or the pain wears off. So if she eats a few smaller meals this problem does not occur.
She's on more drugs than a certain Tour de France legend
The issue is that, as a 16 year old stuck-in-her-ways fusspot, she now starts to get very "jittery" at around 5pm and seemingly desperate to eat (her bowl is emptied at a rate of knots
).So the current regime is Pill at around 7am, Breakfast at 8. Then lunch at around 12pm and then in the evening it's pill at 5pm and eat at 6. So that's 10 hours apart. Sometimes, because she's old and I work at home so can let her, she'll sleep until 8-8:30 so she may not eat until 9:30-10 but she will still get jittery for food around 5pm.
I thought if I separate the pill regime from the food completely in the evening I can feed her at 5 and give her the pill at around 8pm thus ensuring as close to 12 hours as possible.
Make sense?
Just to clarify, the reason she eats 3 meals (sometimes 4) is that she has a problem (which may be connected to the heart issues and Westie chest) that any large meal seems to cause very bad stomach pains where she cries and goes on a mental walkabout in the garden for an hour or longer until she either brings the food up or the pain wears off. So if she eats a few smaller meals this problem does not occur.
She's on more drugs than a certain Tour de France legend
Edited by anonymous-user on Thursday 19th September 17:55
I think you're doing ok with your current routine. You can probably get away with the 10 the gap just let your vet know that's the closest you can do.
The only meds I know that are vital with the timings are for epilepsy treatment and they can be given with food.
I would do the same as you are if I was in your situation and fit in with her needs re: her meals.
I don't think 3hrs is enough of a gap for the stomach to have emptied in time for the pill if you feed at 5 and medicate at 8pm.
The only meds I know that are vital with the timings are for epilepsy treatment and they can be given with food.
I would do the same as you are if I was in your situation and fit in with her needs re: her meals.
I don't think 3hrs is enough of a gap for the stomach to have emptied in time for the pill if you feed at 5 and medicate at 8pm.
Edited by bexVN on Thursday 19th September 17:59
bexVN said:
I think you're doing ok with your current routine. You can probably get away with the 10 the gap just let your vet know that's the closest you can do.
The only meds I know that are vital with the timings are for epilepsy treatment and they can be given with food.
I would do the same as you are if I was in your situation and fit in with her needs re: her meals.
So just to clarify ... you'd keep what I am doing and NOT suggest I go for the late pill in the evening? Or would the late pill that's 3 hours after her evening pill also be OK?The only meds I know that are vital with the timings are for epilepsy treatment and they can be given with food.
I would do the same as you are if I was in your situation and fit in with her needs re: her meals.
Thanks for the replies, much appreciated.
bexVN said:
Clarify keep the pill at 5pm and feed at 6pm. But do tell your vet this is what you are needing to do.
Understood. Many thanks and have a good evening.Edited to say I've only just seen your comment about 3 hours not being adequate time to empty the stomach. All makes sense.
Omg. I’ve been searching everywhere for help with Cardisure. So happy I found this. My dog also struggles so much with new feeding schedule 12 hours apart is way too long for life. I just want to ask is it ok to feed her her tea in between or is a no food strict rule? Also I get feed on an empty stomach but why an hour before. Please desperate for help. Thank you
My little dog just started on cardisure, i have split them , crushed them , and tried in everything, peanut butter, chick nuggets , beef , cheese everything you can think off, and still he just will NOT swallow this tablet, at my wits end, they are not cheap, and i just want to help him , any suggestions would help, failing all just guess i will have to crush in his main meal, although not supposed to have with food, but what choice do i have,
Edited by Zakky on Saturday 6th April 17:16
I was putting them in cheese but after a week she wouldn't eat them in cheese. Changed to ham and again after a week rejected the pill. Moved onto porkpie and this lasted for only a week.
Currently cutting them in half and putting them into Brussels pate which she has been enjoying for over 3 weeks.
(Small Jack Russell)
Currently cutting them in half and putting them into Brussels pate which she has been enjoying for over 3 weeks.
(Small Jack Russell)
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