Dog People....

[OzzyR1]

DoubleSix said:

OzzyR1 said:

Perhaps they have the same feeling for their dog as you do for your kid - lets face it, only you think the sun shines out of it's backside, to most other people it's a noisy, messy annoyance.

what is it about the some dog owners people with kids that they are prepared to compromise every element of there lives just for the pleasure of picking up hot animal st changing sy nappies on a daily basis. I don't get it...

I'm sorry but only a dog owner of the type in my OP could draw such an analogy...

Sorry to disappoint you but I don't own a dog.

Neither do I have kids for that matter, don't particularly like either.

[anonymous-user]

DoubleSix said:

we went to visit

Their house, their rules.
(I am not a dog person by the way)

[Hooli]

backwoodsman said:

Triumph Man said:

I'm a dog person but the dog would come second. If people were visiting I certainly wouldn't let the dog dictate things!

I agree 100%, that will find the dog very dominating of them in the future.

+2

I think that'll be why the dog is so hyper active.

As to where to put the dog, depends where it normally lives I'd say. Ours sleeps in the kitchen so is happy to be put in there if needed. We do tend to when people with young kids come around. Not that the dog is a problem as such, but it isn't used to kids & plays too rough for some of them.

[Triumph Man]

ali_kat said:

You are a guest in their house, you abide by how they live as they would at your house (eg they visit you & their beloved dog has to stay outside because you don't believe dogs should be in the house/your child can't be trusted around it )

ETA - Rude Boy beat me to the rest of it & said it better

Thing is I bet that if they visited the dog would come to and the OP's friends would insist that he roams the house, or a large part of the house. The thing with these people is it's never a two way street...

I have a cat, and I certainly wouldn't let the little st dictate the workings of my day (unless it needed to go to the vets or something).

[porridge]

DoubleSix said:

ali_kat said:

You are a guest in their house, you abide by how they live as they would at your house (eg they visit you & their beloved dog has to stay outside because you don't believe dogs should be in the house/your child can't be trusted around it )

ETA - Rude Boy beat me to the rest of it & said it better

Well I couldn't disagree more I'm afraid.

When I have guests I want them to feel at home, as if they aren't actually 'guests' as such i.e. nothing is too much trouble and their enjoyment is my priority. It's tiring, but I pride myself on being a good host.

+1 nothing should be too much trouble. OP talk to them about how you felt as will nag and ruin your friendship - or get better "good friends".

[rhinochopig]

OP as for the answer to this...My advice would be to meet your mate in the pub in future and enjoy a pint and a chat without a screaming child or a hyperactive dog.

[ali_kat]

Triumph Man said:

Thing is I bet that if they visited the dog would come to and the OP's friends would insist that he roams the house, or a large part of the house. The thing with these people is it's never a two way street...

I have a cat, and I certainly wouldn't let the little st dictate the workings of my day (unless it needed to go to the vets or something).

Depends on the friendship - I'd have spoken up straight away Actually, that is not true, I'd have insisted that the dog & my child were socialised together!

Our dogs never dictated to us how we/friends were when they were around & we only took them to friends houses where we knew they'd be welcome.

My cats do dictate - one is blind so I can't kick them out for the weekend if friends are over that don't like cats. That said, I do distribute allergy tablets like candy to those that need them, clean the house (even more) thoroughly before guests arrive (even more if I know they have an allergy) & lock them in my bedroom if need be.

I check with guests before they arrive how best to deal with my cats for them; as several PHers can confirm

[benters]

rhinochopig said:

OP as for the answer to this...My advice would be to meet your mate in the pub in future and enjoy a pint and a chat without a screaming child or a hyperactive dog.

this is by far the best solution suggested so far.

[porridge]

benters said:

rhinochopig said:

OP as for the answer to this...My advice would be to meet your mate in the pub in future and enjoy a pint and a chat without a screaming child or a hyperactive dog.

this is by far the best solution suggested so far.

OP said "good friends of ours" as opposed to his, so if both couples are meeting who will look after the dog and baby.

[Rude-boy]

Triumph Man said:

Thing is I bet that if they visited the dog would come to and the OP's friends would insist that he roams the house, or a large part of the house. The thing with these people is it's never a two way street...

I have a cat, and I certainly wouldn't let the little st dictate the workings of my day (unless it needed to go to the vets or something).

I do agree with you. I love dogs so much I refuse to have one as I know that our lifstyle is not conducive to the responsibilities of owning a dog.

My g/f and I are big on hosting for friends and so on. We want people to feel comfortable and welcome in our home. When people stay we don't have any rules other than please don't use every flipping towel in the towel basket, please use the ones we have put on your bed for you or those on the towel heaters and let us know if you need more!

We are very much of the opinion that when you are staying with others it is by their rules. If they let you make the rules (like we tend to in the main) great, if you have to fit in with them then you do so and if you are in the car on the way back bhing about being cooped in one small room whilst their Great Dane wanders unchecked then you might not be so swift to take up a return invitation.

[BOBTEE]

Won't somebody think of the dog?!

[benters]

porridge said:

benters said:

rhinochopig said:

OP as for the answer to this...My advice would be to meet your mate in the pub in future and enjoy a pint and a chat without a screaming child or a hyperactive dog.

this is by far the best solution suggested so far.

OP said "good friends of ours" as opposed to his, so if both couples are meeting who will look after the dog and baby.

easy . . . .a relay between them all, after all i am certain that all these points of inconvenience and commitment of their respective onward lives were considered fully before they had a kid and the friends had a dog

[Rude-boy]

BOBTEE said:

Won't somebody think of the dog?!

The dogs held a party, they came from near and far.
And some dogs came by taxi, and some by motorcar.
And at the registration, they all signed in the book.
And each dog hung his asshole upon a separate hook.

One dog was not invited, and this aroused his ire.
He ran into the meeting, and there he shouted "fire!"
And in the mass confusion, the dogs forgot to look,
And each dog grabbed an asshole, from of the nearest hook.

The dogs ran from the meeting, they scattered far and wide,
And which dog had which asshole, they never could decide.
And now whenever dogs meet, on land or sea or foam,
Each sniffs the other's asshole, in hopes that it's his own.

[DoubleSix]

benters said:

porridge said:

benters said:

rhinochopig said:

OP as for the answer to this...My advice would be to meet your mate in the pub in future and enjoy a pint and a chat without a screaming child or a hyperactive dog.

this is by far the best solution suggested so far.

OP said "good friends of ours" as opposed to his, so if both couples are meeting who will look after the dog and baby.

easy . . . .a relay between them all, after all i am certain that all these points of inconvenience and commitment of their respective onward lives were considered fully before they had a kid and the friends had a dog

Reality is this was a 400 mile round trip. It's just really bloody awkward as this is one of my oldest friends and the dog is his wifes to dote on. Yes, I could speak my mind but as friend I don't really want to cause discomfort or embarrassment, I just want to be shown the same consideration and not feel that I am in some way putting them out!

There is some truth in the earlier comments that this pooch is being treated as a surrogate child, they struggled for years but do now have a baby. I had hoped some normality might creep into the situation as a result.

[captainzep]

Triumph Man said:

I'm a dog person but the dog would come second.

[DoubleSix]

Crossflow Kid said:

DoubleSix said:

we went to visit

Their house, their rules.
(I am not a dog person by the way)

...or much of a host by the sounds of it!

[Squiggs]

I can't quite work out why the dog needs 24 hour supervision/companionship?
What is it with the 'we can't go here' and 'we can't go there because the dog can't come and we can't leave the dog alone'?
Do your friends never leave the dog alone ... Do they never go shopping together, never go out for meal? (God help them if one of them is ever hospitalised - because the other won't be able to visit!)
There must be times when they leave the dog alone! In which case it sounds like the dog was being used as an excuse for not being able to go out for breakfast or visiting a NT place. In which case and in conjunction with being made to feel uncomfortable and second best to the dog whilst in their home if I were in your position I would be strongly questioning the strength of the friendship.


EDIT. Just read your last post OP.
Which came first dog or baby? Was it a home birth or was the dog left alone at times?

Edited by Squiggs on Monday 11th November 14:47

[ali_kat]

DoubleSix said:

Reality is this was a 400 mile round trip. It's just really bloody awkward as this is one of my oldest friends and the dog is his wifes to dote on. Yes, I could speak my mind but as friend I don't really want to cause discomfort or embarrassment, I just want to be shown the same consideration and not feel that I am in some way putting them out!

There is some truth in the earlier comments that this pooch is being treated as a surrogate child, they struggled for years but do now have a baby. I had hoped some normality might creep into the situation as a result.

I wrote a long post about the dog being a surrogate child & deleted it as I saw that you'd posted that they'd just had a baby whilst i was typing.

Women are bloody stupid when it comes to babies &/ cats &/ dogs. There is absolutely no rationality in them over them at all once they have 'baby' brain

There are very few women I've continued to be able to be friends with after they've had a baby, the only ones I have are PHers

I just hope to f*ck I don't end up like that although called Mad Cat Lady, I'm told it's affectionate & that I'm reasonable about my cats

[mattnunn]

we've got kids and dogs, I like them both but if I had to choose.... Hmmmmm.

Dogs can be left alone, especially if you get two, they'll let you know it they're not happy on their own by totally destroying your house for you, same as a child really.

[DoubleSix]

Squiggs said:

I can't quite work out why the dog needs 24 hour supervision/companionship?
What is it with the 'we can't go here' and 'we can't go there because the dog can't come and we can't leave the dog alone'?
Do your friends never leave the dog alone ... Do they never go shopping together, never go out for meal? (God help them if one of them is ever hospitalised - because the other won't be able to visit!)
There must be times when they leave the dog alone! In which case it sounds like the dog was being used as an excuse for not being able to go out for breakfast or visiting a NT place. In which case and in conjunction with being made to feel uncomfortable and second best to the dog whilst in their home if I were in your position I would be strongly questioning the strength of the friendship.

They have and do sometimes leave the pooch at home. But more often than not the dog is engineered into the plans "he hasn't been out since last night" or "i'm sure they'll allow dogs" whilst I shoot a sideways at look Mrs DoubleSix. We all drove to Westonbirt Arboretum last autumn only to discover that dogs aren't allowed in the 'old' part that I wanted to see... cue whimsical shrugs from them while I just wanted pick up the dog and throw it onto the M4...

Edited by DoubleSix on Monday 11th November 15:00