Dog People....
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It amuses me that people are disgusted if a dog licks them - and then kiss their young children who probably carry more germs after playing "mud cakes" in the garden, or crawling around on the floor!
I'm not suggesting their children are neglected etc or their homes are unhygenic, but just think of how many germs a child could pick up in a playgroup or school.
And no, I don't let my dog lick my face - or anyone else's, but it is instinctive for them to do so - just watch a litter of puppies clean their mother's mouth: it's to get the scraps of food that she's eaten (or, if in the wild, brought back for pups to eat) and a sign of subservience.
Just think for a moment - the dog has wandered around the house, put his/her nose against the arm of your sofa. You sit down and watch TV, brush the sofa arm while eating your pizza ... or do you carry a bottle of bleach and a cloth with you and wipe everything before you go near it?
I suppose, having worked on farms, I have had my hands in much worse stuff than most dogs will carry and survived! Cows' tails aren't exactly clean - and they are very accurate when they accidentally wave them as you walk past!
I'm not suggesting their children are neglected etc or their homes are unhygenic, but just think of how many germs a child could pick up in a playgroup or school.
And no, I don't let my dog lick my face - or anyone else's, but it is instinctive for them to do so - just watch a litter of puppies clean their mother's mouth: it's to get the scraps of food that she's eaten (or, if in the wild, brought back for pups to eat) and a sign of subservience.
Just think for a moment - the dog has wandered around the house, put his/her nose against the arm of your sofa. You sit down and watch TV, brush the sofa arm while eating your pizza ... or do you carry a bottle of bleach and a cloth with you and wipe everything before you go near it?
I suppose, having worked on farms, I have had my hands in much worse stuff than most dogs will carry and survived! Cows' tails aren't exactly clean - and they are very accurate when they accidentally wave them as you walk past!
ali_kat said:
DoubleSix said:
Ok, ok enough of the witch hunt guys. I don't think any of us really know enough about Mr Singh's domestic arrangements to stand in judgement.
Oh and he really isn't under any obligation to answer the questions of strangers on the internet.
I note he has repeatedly acknowledged the importance of regular contact and socialisation however so perhaps benefit of the doubt could be given before quoting the law!!
Anyway, hands up who lets their dog lick their face?]
It it were a witch hunt, he'd be banned for rule breaking Oh and he really isn't under any obligation to answer the questions of strangers on the internet.
I note he has repeatedly acknowledged the importance of regular contact and socialisation however so perhaps benefit of the doubt could be given before quoting the law!!
Anyway, hands up who lets their dog lick their face?]
I've stuck up for him, fought the case for him, argued for his way & given him good advice on how to keep dogs outside humanely - I'm fed up to the back teeth with him now, he knows nothing & yet thinks he knows everything & is the best dog owner ever
IMHO he's the troll. Hadenough! has adequate demonstrated why with his quotes (although unnecessary in this thread)
True, but he has asked for lots of advice, ignored it all & now claims he knows everything - we do deserve answers
No, I never let my dogs lick faces. Hands were allowed but washed immediately after.
Tell me, do you carry those little hand wash bottles around with you & use it all the time?
Edited by ali_kat on Friday 21st March 08:04
The person that needs to be hunted is the person that can turn someone from being a self confessed 'I know nothing about dogs' person, a person that asks for advice and dispels it into someone who has become a dog owning expert who feely gives out information on dog training and dog welfare in just a few short months .... cos that really is witchcraft.
dbfan said:
...it is instinctive for them to do so - just watch a litter of puppies clean their mother's mouth: it's to get the scraps of food that she's eaten (or, if in the wild, brought back for pups to eat) and a sign of subservience...
Almost the truth but actually worse than that; It's to encourage the returning adults to regurgetate what they've eaten.Two of my hard and fast rules... no face licking and no tuggy, otherwise known as "lets rip the pray to pieces"
...but he does sleep on the bed and sofa.
ali_kat said:
RDMcG said:
If I under stand the daily schedule then the dog is confined to the utility room from 8pm to 6am, 10 Hours
Alone in the garden 8am-noon 4 hours
Alone in the garden 1pm-4pm 3 hours
That would make it 17 hours a day by itself.
Seems like a lonely life to me.
That's how I worked it out tooAlone in the garden 8am-noon 4 hours
Alone in the garden 1pm-4pm 3 hours
That would make it 17 hours a day by itself.
Seems like a lonely life to me.
Poor dog
Mine for example is generally alone downstairs (her choice) overnight which is usually 11.30 - 7ish then at 9am left while we are at work. I am fairly flexible and am usually home by 4pm. She then spends the rest of the evening with us unless we are out for a meal or training etc.
so that is generally a minimum of 14.5 hours alone a day + any time when we have to go out and I get ribbed by friends about always being with the dog.
My dog is perfectly happy with this arrangement, isnt bored, doesnt whine or destroy anything, has her KC Good Citizen awards and nobody I know, including many experienced dog owners have suggested that my dog is neglected.
On balance though my dog is not confined to 1 room or the garden, she can go where she likes (stays downstairs of her own choice though). I think Steve really should entertain the idea of letting the dog into the house to mingle in the mornings/evenings though.
I let mine lick my face, hands, feet as long as I have not seen her licking her bits prior to this but as said she does not sleep with us.
The worst thing is how filthy she makes my cars, the house is not such as problem as she is usually dried off a bit or stopped slobbering by the time she gets home but the car gets her straight from runny round muddy fields, in streams etc
RB Will said:
Not that I particularly want to support Steve but including the sleep time makes it look a lot worse. I expect the majority of dogs live a similar balance.
Mine for example is generally alone downstairs (her choice) overnight which is usually 11.30 - 7ish then at 9am left while we are at work.
True - good point!Mine for example is generally alone downstairs (her choice) overnight which is usually 11.30 - 7ish then at 9am left while we are at work.
RB Will said:
I am fairly flexible and am usually home by 4pm. She then spends the rest of the evening with us unless we are out for a meal or training etc.
so that is generally a minimum of 14.5 hours alone a day + any time when we have to go out and I get ribbed by friends about always being with the dog.
My dog is perfectly happy with this arrangement, isnt bored, doesnt whine or destroy anything, has her KC Good Citizen awards and nobody I know, including many experienced dog owners have suggested that my dog is neglected.
On balance though my dog is not confined to 1 room or the garden, she can go where she likes (stays downstairs of her own choice though). I think Steve really should entertain the idea of letting the dog into the house to mingle in the mornings/evenings though.
The not being confined (other than by her choice), is the really important bit. None of us are saying that dogs don't like to be left to sleep in peace, or like their own 'me' time, but they like to choose when to have that IYKWIM - rather than being treated like a old relative in a home that you visit when it suits you.so that is generally a minimum of 14.5 hours alone a day + any time when we have to go out and I get ribbed by friends about always being with the dog.
My dog is perfectly happy with this arrangement, isnt bored, doesnt whine or destroy anything, has her KC Good Citizen awards and nobody I know, including many experienced dog owners have suggested that my dog is neglected.
On balance though my dog is not confined to 1 room or the garden, she can go where she likes (stays downstairs of her own choice though). I think Steve really should entertain the idea of letting the dog into the house to mingle in the mornings/evenings though.
How long before Steve (and his kids!) get fed up/cold/bored of having to go outside to play with the dog?
steve singh said:
Stick to asking questions on how to look after your dog there then, this is a forum for people that LOVE their pets - you dint belongsteve singh said:
I have four dogs. They all want to be in during the night (generally, one will have the odd night in the garden). Two of them like to spend a few hours a day in the garden as well but two want to be in the house all the time unless going for walkies or a toilet break in the garden. The ones usually in the garden will "knock" on the door around 9pm to come in for bed.
The other thing I remembered when thinking of dogs licking faces - how many times I have been in the loo when other people come in, pee and go out - without washing their hands. OK, I may be paranoid, but I did work in a school - you think teachers would be a little more careful!
There's nothing my dog likes better than a bath, though she would have difficulty getting in one now (arthritis is a PITA). This pic is from about 2002/3, when she did some investigating:
Luckily the photo doesn't show that the bath is Pampas-coloured! I had intended to sort the bathroom, but the new engine in the Golf has drained the funds for the next few years!
She prefers un-chlorinated water though:
A daily event if the tide is right when we go for our stroll!
There's nothing my dog likes better than a bath, though she would have difficulty getting in one now (arthritis is a PITA). This pic is from about 2002/3, when she did some investigating:
Luckily the photo doesn't show that the bath is Pampas-coloured! I had intended to sort the bathroom, but the new engine in the Golf has drained the funds for the next few years!
She prefers un-chlorinated water though:
A daily event if the tide is right when we go for our stroll!
steve singh said:
Ah yes yahoo answers. For when all else fails.I really hope your trolling us Steve for your poor dogs sake.
Pesty said:
Doublesix I'm sat on the settee readng thus thread. My pal is keeping the back of my head warm.
Don't explode
I've not got a pic to hand but our Staffy likes to lay on the back of the sofa & put her head on my shoulder. Then she normally goes to sleep, she don't half have a heavy head after an hour or so Don't explode
Hooli said:
I've not got a pic to hand but our Staffy likes to lay on the back of the sofa & put her head on my shoulder. Then she normally goes to sleep, she don't half have a heavy head after an hour or so
That's not surprising. If the headbutts I've had from mine are anything to go by, Staffy's heads are filled with concrete.
Hooli said:
I've not got a pic to hand but our Staffy likes to lay on the back of the sofa & put her head on my shoulder. Then she normally goes to sleep, she don't half have a heavy head after an hour or so
Like this It's not his head that's the problem he has a habit if jumping down using me. Which gets painful
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