Dog People....

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SGirl

7,918 posts

262 months

Monday 11th November 2013
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steve singh said:
Anyone who keeps a dog inside their living accommodation (house, apartment, flat) has a poor concept of hygiene IMHO.

Dogs are for outdoors only, they smell, leave hair everywhere and drag their backside on the carpet - urgh!
What's the point in having pets if you're going to banish them outside?

I'd much rather live in a happy home with dogs than in a sterile environment where I wouldn't dare sit down for fear of accidentally pushing a cushion out of position.

Rude-boy

22,227 posts

234 months

Monday 11th November 2013
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DoubleSix said:
Maybe I should start a thread about 'hosting' lol, here's a personal bug bear and sure fire sign of a stty host; "We didn't plan anything as we weren't sure what you might like to do...." when I hear that I know I'm in for a stty weekend!
Do it.

Unless specific activity is pre-planned we tend to think of about 4 or 5 activities covering all likely desires and that require different degrees of time and different weather conditions. On the other hand an overnight visit to ours usually involves eating 6 or 7 courses with lubrication so the most oft requested option is to go for a nice walk locally or along a nearby beach!


DoubleSix

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11,716 posts

177 months

Monday 11th November 2013
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Mods: seriously, if I'd wanted to post in ACGAS I really would have. This is a thread about people... why does tuff always get shunted out of the lounge where there is a much broader range of opinions.

otolith

56,177 posts

205 months

Monday 11th November 2013
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steve singh said:
Anyone who keeps a dog inside their living accommodation (house, apartment, flat) has a poor concept of hygiene IMHO.

Dogs are for outdoors only, they smell, leave hair everywhere and drag their backside on the carpet - urgh!
Oi, that's insensitive to my culture! biglaugh

Tyre Tread

10,535 posts

217 months

Monday 11th November 2013
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steve singh said:
Anyone who keeps a dog baby inside their living accommodation (house, apartment, flat) has a poor concept of hygiene IMHO.

Dogs Babies are for other people only, they smell, leave drool, snot, piss and dirty handmarks everywhere and drag their backside on the carpet - urgh!
It sounds as if the people on here don't know how to train a dog or manage the expectation of visitors.

If people are coming to visit I ask beforehand how they feel about the dog. I explain that she will want to say hello (i.e. check them out) very gently when they arrive and she will then be told to leave them alone unless she is called.

If they don't want to interact with the dog then they are kept away from the dog or we meet elsewhere.

The dog is part of our life that has to be considered when we interact with others. Sometimes a compromise can be found where everyone is happy sometimes we have to postpose or cancel arrangemnts.

Your friend probably didn't consider that you would rather have your child walking on carpet and probably thought you'd be happier from a hygiene persective to have the child on a hard floor.

If you can't say to your friends 'Can we sit in the lounge where its carpeted and my little bundle of stty nappy can play on a soft surface' then either you don't know how to communicate of they aren't very good friends.

Having watched a friend's young child grind a complete chocolate biscuitinto my brand new lounge carpet a few years sgo while it's mother sat there and commented on how accomodating I was about it especially having inly been laiud (the carpet) a week earlier, and then changed a dirty nappy on the carpet five minutes later, I fully understand why they didn't want your 'little bundle of fun' on their carpet.

They know they can trust the dog not to st on the carpet but your child is another matter.

Tyre Tread

10,535 posts

217 months

Monday 11th November 2013
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graphene said:
steve singh said:
Anyone who keeps a dog inside their living accommodation (house, apartment, flat) has a poor concept of hygiene IMHO.

Dogs are for outdoors only, they smell, leave hair everywhere and drag their backside on the carpet - urgh!
Yesiree, it's a miracle that pet owners are not dying in droves!!!
Thye are. Just not from dog related illnesses.

DoubleSix

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11,716 posts

177 months

Monday 11th November 2013
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Tyre Tread said:
It sounds as if the people on here don't know how to train a dog or manage the expectation of visitors.

If people are coming to visit I ask beforehand how they feel about the dog. I explain that she will want to say hello (i.e. check them out) very gently when they arrive and she will then be told to leave them alone unless she is called.

If they don't want to interact with the dog then they are kept away from the dog or we meet elsewhere.

The dog is part of our life that has to be considered when we interact with others. Sometimes a compromise can be found where everyone is happy sometimes we have to postpose or cancel arrangemnts.

Your friend probably didn't consider that you would rather have your child walking on carpet and probably thought you'd be happier from a hygiene persective to have the child on a hard floor.

If you can't say to your friends 'Can we sit in the lounge where its carpeted and my little bundle of stty nappy can play on a soft surface' then either you don't know how to communicate of they aren't very good friends.

Having watched a friend's young child grind a complete chocolate biscuitinto my brand new lounge carpet a few years sgo while it's mother sat there and commented on how accomodating I was about it especially having inly been laiud (the carpet) a week earlier, and then changed a dirty nappy on the carpet five minutes later, I fully understand why they didn't want your 'little bundle of fun' on their carpet.

They know they can trust the dog not to st on the carpet but your child is another matter.
Well if you just sat there while the kid put chocolate biscuit all over your carpet then either you can't communicate or they aren't very good friends...

steve singh

3,995 posts

174 months

Monday 11th November 2013
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graphene said:
steve singh said:
Anyone who keeps a dog inside their living accommodation (house, apartment, flat) has a poor concept of hygiene IMHO.

Dogs are for outdoors only, they smell, leave hair everywhere and drag their backside on the carpet - urgh!
Yesiree, it's a miracle that pet owners are not dying in droves!!!
I'd rather not live in a zoo...

jagracer

8,248 posts

237 months

Monday 11th November 2013
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steve singh said:
graphene said:
steve singh said:
Anyone who keeps a dog inside their living accommodation (house, apartment, flat) has a poor concept of hygiene IMHO.

Dogs are for outdoors only, they smell, leave hair everywhere and drag their backside on the carpet - urgh!
Yesiree, it's a miracle that pet owners are not dying in droves!!!
I'd rather not live in a zoo...
Is anybody asking you to? BTW we also let our dogs and cats lick our food plates after we've eaten........................saves on the washing up as well.

kVA

2,460 posts

206 months

Monday 11th November 2013
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Crossflow Kid said:
DoubleSix said:
we went to visit
Their house, their rules.
(I am not a dog person by the way)
I am a dog owner and this says it all...

If you don't like their rules (which I don't happen to completely agree with, by the way) don't go - or leave when you think it is not acceptable.

I don't have kids, but if I did, I would make sure the environment was going to be suitable for them, BEFORE I agreed to spend a weekend at someone else's house - especially if I knew they had a dog.

mattnunn

14,041 posts

162 months

Monday 11th November 2013
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steve singh said:
Anyone who keeps a dog inside their living accommodation (house, apartment, flat) has a poor concept of hygiene IMHO.

Dogs are for outdoors only, they smell, leave hair everywhere and drag their backside on the carpet - urgh!
Babies ain't exactly sterile themselves, but the don't spend their walkies seeking out every cow turd they can to bury their face in, I'll give 'em that.

DoubleSix

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11,716 posts

177 months

Monday 11th November 2013
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kVA said:
Crossflow Kid said:
DoubleSix said:
we went to visit
Their house, their rules.
(I am not a dog person by the way)
I am a dog owner and this says it all...

If you don't like their rules (which I don't happen to completely agree with, by the way) don't go - or leave when you think it is not acceptable.

I don't have kids, but if I did, I would make sure the environment was going to be suitable for them, BEFORE I agreed to spend a weekend at someone else's house - especially if I knew they had a dog.
Well I can only assume you skim read the thread. We have addressed this already.

For the benefit of skim readers like yourself, my point was a broader one that SOME dog owners allow their dog to dictate too much, from where we eat, where we go out for the day, to what room we reside in... secondly good friends (and hosts!) prioritise their guests over most other things to ensure they enjoy themselves, this notion of 'my house, my rules' is crass beyond belief, to me it's 'my house, your rules' when guests stay with the exception of smoking indoors etc. I'm repeating myself now but I guess we're at that point around 4 pages into a thread where people read the OP and dash to the end to voice their views without actually realising their point has already been discussed.




Tyre Tread

10,535 posts

217 months

Monday 11th November 2013
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DoubleSix said:
Tyre Tread said:
It sounds as if the people on here don't know how to train a dog or manage the expectation of visitors.

If people are coming to visit I ask beforehand how they feel about the dog. I explain that she will want to say hello (i.e. check them out) very gently when they arrive and she will then be told to leave them alone unless she is called.

If they don't want to interact with the dog then they are kept away from the dog or we meet elsewhere.

The dog is part of our life that has to be considered when we interact with others. Sometimes a compromise can be found where everyone is happy sometimes we have to postpose or cancel arrangemnts.

Your friend probably didn't consider that you would rather have your child walking on carpet and probably thought you'd be happier from a hygiene persective to have the child on a hard floor.

If you can't say to your friends 'Can we sit in the lounge where its carpeted and my little bundle of stty nappy can play on a soft surface' then either you don't know how to communicate of they aren't very good friends.

Having watched a friend's young child grind a complete chocolate biscuitinto my brand new lounge carpet a few years sgo while it's mother sat there and commented on how accomodating I was about it especially having inly been laiud (the carpet) a week earlier, and then changed a dirty nappy on the carpet five minutes later, I fully understand why they didn't want your 'little bundle of fun' on their carpet.

They know they can trust the dog not to st on the carpet but your child is another matter.
Well if you just sat there while the kid put chocolate biscuit all over your carpet then either you can't communicate or they aren't very good friends...
Not my friends. My wife's schoolfriend's wife and if I had my way they wouldn't have been invited mostly because that particular woman is an inconsiderate selfish b.

I did suggest that it might be better if they stopped their child from grinding the chocolate into the carpet or I might like to do the so at their house when we next visit.

kVA

2,460 posts

206 months

Monday 11th November 2013
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DoubleSix said:
Well I can only assume you skim read the thread. We have addressed this already.

For the benefit of skim readers like yourself, my point was a broader one that SOME dog owners allow their dog to dictate too much, from where we eat, where we go out for the day, to what room we reside in... secondly good friends (and hosts!) prioritise their guests over most other things to ensure they enjoy themselves, this notion of 'my house, my rules' is crass beyond belief, to me it's 'my house, your rules' when guests stay with the exception of smoking indoors etc. I'm repeating myself now but I guess we're at that point around 4 pages into a thread where people read the OP and dash to the end to voice their views without actually realising their point has already been discussed.
Actually, I did read the whole thread, but felt the posts you referred to were aimed at your hosts attitude towards their dog and your visit: I think it is YOUR responsibility to make sure your needs will be met before you go to someone else's house and then publicly bh about their behaviour on the Internet!!!

I sincerely hope your (ex) friends get to see this and don't ever invite you again... What an ahole you are for being so fking rude to them (and me)

DoubleSix

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11,716 posts

177 months

Monday 11th November 2013
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laugh Steady on pal, I don't think I've said anything rude to you....

otolith

56,177 posts

205 months

Monday 11th November 2013
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DoubleSix said:
to me it's 'my house, your rules' when guests stay with the exception of smoking indoors etc
So more "my house, your rules, unless they bother me"?

kVA

2,460 posts

206 months

Monday 11th November 2013
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DoubleSix said:
Well I can only assume you skim read the thread. We have addressed this already.

For the benefit of skim readers like yourself...

...I'm repeating myself now but I guess we're at that point around 4 pages into a thread where people read the OP and dash to the end to voice their views without actually realising their point has already been discussed.
You don't think that's patronising and rude, then?

OK, so I think we now know who has the problem between you and your dog-owning friends wink

DoubleSix

Original Poster:

11,716 posts

177 months

Monday 11th November 2013
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otolith said:
DoubleSix said:
to me it's 'my house, your rules' when guests stay with the exception of smoking indoors etc
So more "my house, your rules, unless they bother me"?
Don't be silly, you understand what I'm saying; 'mi casa es su casa' but I think most people would put smoking on the exceptions list... bit like wiping you arse on the curtains or something.

otolith

56,177 posts

205 months

Monday 11th November 2013
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DoubleSix said:
otolith said:
DoubleSix said:
to me it's 'my house, your rules' when guests stay with the exception of smoking indoors etc
So more "my house, your rules, unless they bother me"?
Don't be silly, you understand what I'm saying; 'mi casa es su casa' but I think most people would put smoking on the exceptions list... bit like wiping you arse on the curtains or something.
Yep, it's drawing a line, somewhat arbitrarily. Your line is smoking. Other people's lines may be wiping arses on curtains.

DoubleSix

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11,716 posts

177 months

Monday 11th November 2013
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kVA said:
DoubleSix said:
Well I can only assume you skim read the thread. We have addressed this already.

For the benefit of skim readers like yourself...

...I'm repeating myself now but I guess we're at that point around 4 pages into a thread where people read the OP and dash to the end to voice their views without actually realising their point has already been discussed.
You don't think that's patronising and rude, then?

OK, so I think we now know who has the problem between you and your dog-owning friends wink
Certainly nothing to warrant your little out-burst. FWIW a number of dog owners have popped on this thread to back up my view that putting your dog ahead of your guests is a little off and probably isn't healthy for the dog in the long run.