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DoubleSix

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11,716 posts

177 months

Monday 11th November 2013
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otolith said:
DoubleSix said:
otolith said:
DoubleSix said:
to me it's 'my house, your rules' when guests stay with the exception of smoking indoors etc
So more "my house, your rules, unless they bother me"?
Don't be silly, you understand what I'm saying; 'mi casa es su casa' but I think most people would put smoking on the exceptions list... bit like wiping you arse on the curtains or something.
Yep, it's drawing a line, somewhat arbitrarily. Your line is smoking. Other people's lines may be wiping arses on curtains.
laugh Come on ffs, I think it's pretty clear society as a whole have drawn a line on smoking in closed environments... lets not nit pick for sake of it eh?

captainzep

13,305 posts

193 months

Monday 11th November 2013
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DoubleSix said:
laugh Come on ffs, I think it's pretty clear society as a whole have drawn a line on smoking in closed environments... lets not nit pick for sake of it eh?
Just exploring the parameters here, but how about a decent rummage up your lady's jumper? I won't smoke?

DoubleSix

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11,716 posts

177 months

Monday 11th November 2013
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captainzep said:
Just exploring the parameters here, but how about a decent rummage up your lady's jumper? I won't smoke?
You will smoke.

It's hard not to when you've been doused in petrol, set alight, and kicked around the garden.... ho ho







Edited by DoubleSix on Monday 11th November 20:26

digger the goat

2,818 posts

146 months

Monday 11th November 2013
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And just when I thought I had found an area of PH where people weren't argumentative twunts !!!

FFS... This is about the well being of our much loved non humans.. Most of which are better mannered !!

Shut up, grow up or EFF off..

DoubleSix

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11,716 posts

177 months

Monday 11th November 2013
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Well, I had posted it in the lounge where the banter is a plenty and the ernest upholders of animal rights are few.

I knew it would go down hill as soon as the mods shunted it over here...

ali_kat

31,992 posts

222 months

Monday 11th November 2013
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It went downhill before it was moved frown

DoubleSix

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11,716 posts

177 months

Monday 11th November 2013
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Shame really as it was an honest airing of views, and i was genuinely interested in peoples opinions as most people have met dog owners of this ilk. Seems some folk just get defensive and assume it's an attack on their way of life or something...

digger the goat

2,818 posts

146 months

Monday 11th November 2013
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Normally this is a very polite area of PH !!

Don't know what has happened over the past 2 weeks !!

Can't even blame school hols !!

Hopefully all usual/regular posters will ignore the negative efforts that have crept in and will carry on regardless..

bexVN

14,682 posts

212 months

Monday 11th November 2013
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There is always a middle ground to both sides if people actually considered both sides.

I am very glad to say I am one of those people so feel no need to get involved in this debate any further, esp as it is becoming completely ridiculous. Not a normal scenario in this forum, I'm glad to say smile

hadenough!

3,785 posts

261 months

Monday 11th November 2013
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Bet there's a similar thread on a dog website started by your friends. Complaining about how you wouldn't let your precious little cherub near their dog, or let your baby crawl on the nasty hard floor?

For the record I have a daft Staffordshire bull terrier, a 9 month old son and no carpets...

DoubleSix

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11,716 posts

177 months

Monday 11th November 2013
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hadenough! said:
Bet there's a similar thread on a dog website started by your friends. Complaining about how you wouldn't let your precious little cherub near their dog, or let your baby crawl on the nasty hard floor?

For the record I have a daft Staffordshire bull terrier, a 9 month old son and no carpets...
Well, i guess the cheap shot had to come eventually. For the record the owners in question wouldn't want the dog near the child either as it has not yet been socialised with children, it's an English bull terrier with a particularly hyper temperament. That wasn't really the point of my OP though was it...

hadenough!

3,785 posts

261 months

Monday 11th November 2013
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Sorry, I read your initial post as someone being unable to understand how people might have different priorities. I was just highlighting how your priorities could be viewed by others. By the way, your child will be fine on a hard floor.

bexVN

14,682 posts

212 months

Monday 11th November 2013
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DoubleSix said:
hadenough! said:
Bet there's a similar thread on a dog website started by your friends. Complaining about how you wouldn't let your precious little cherub near their dog, or let your baby crawl on the nasty hard floor?

For the record I have a daft Staffordshire bull terrier, a 9 month old son and no carpets...
Well, i guess the cheap shot had to come eventually. For the record the owners in question wouldn't want the dog near the child either as it has not yet been socialised with children, it's an English bull terrier with a particularly hyper temperament. That wasn't really the point of my OP though was it...
Sounds like it's too late now for the dog to be socialised properly with children now unless it's only a couple months old.

DoubleSix

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11,716 posts

177 months

Monday 11th November 2013
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Indeed BexVN. And to their credit they know this...

I've been dragged away from my original point however which was simply that a pet should not dominate how four adults spend their social time together, children or not.

Some grasped this easily whilst others seem to have taken it as an afront to their dog ownership.

When we go to the in-laws we are literally surrounded by animals (2 retrievers, 1 jack russell, 1 german shepard, 1 collie, 3 cats and 19 horses), we are not anti-dog by any stretch, in fact the OH is certifiably dog mad, but even she tires of the fawning over this animal and the way it interferes with any social plans we might have together.

Edited by DoubleSix on Monday 11th November 21:11

otolith

56,177 posts

205 months

Monday 11th November 2013
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If you choose to take on a dog, in my opinion you also choose to take its welfare seriously. And that may impact on your social life, particularly while it is young. If you can't hack that, don't get a dog. If you can't hack your friends taking those responsibilities seriously, get different friends.

bexVN

14,682 posts

212 months

Monday 11th November 2013
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I agree with that point yes

Doublesix my reply was to your post, sorry I should've quoted your post

Edited by bexVN on Monday 11th November 21:28

DoubleSix

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11,716 posts

177 months

Monday 11th November 2013
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Well surely it's about striking a balance. One can be a responsible dog owner and balance this with life's other demands or one can be totally led by the animal and strike this balance very poorly.

A number of dog owners have recognised that they would not do what my friends did and that has satisfied my aim of getting it off my chest after a frustrating weekend away, of course there will always be those who chose not to see reason for the sake of argument.

DoubleSix

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11,716 posts

177 months

Monday 11th November 2013
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bexVN said:
I agree with that point yes

Doublesix my reply was to your post, sorry I should've quoted your post

Edited by bexVN on Monday 11th November 21:28
beer

porridge

1,109 posts

145 months

Monday 11th November 2013
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DoubleSix said:
A number of dog owners have recognised that they would not do what my friends did and that has satisfied my aim of getting it off my chest after a frustrating weekend away, of course there will always be those who chose not to see reason for the sake of argument.
Out of interest, how is this going to affect your friendship with these people going forward? will you raise it at some time (hopefully not when drunk and unintentionally slips out) or never mention it? do you think they were aware of your frustrations? What will happen when they come for a weekend to your with the dog?

OllieC

3,816 posts

215 months

Monday 11th November 2013
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find new friends.