How deal with a lame dog that just won't stop running.
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Right well this f
king farce has just been topped off today, I'm so angry I can't even think straight. I feel sick.
From day one this has been handled poorly we have had appologies from senior vets because young vets made mistakes that senior vet then wanted to operate on his left should when his right leg is the issue!!! Thank fk we had lost all confidence in that bunch of tts and went to a specialist.
I say thank fk but they are even worse.
Logan went in today for his laprescopy on his right elbow. I was stressed enough that was the third time we had taken him expecting to leave him for an op.
I could have cried leaving him but the vet said don't worry between the 2 doing the operation 40 years experience....
Anyway get a call from him I saw you looked stressed so I just wanted to set your mind at rest we looked in his joint and it allows good. Cartilage fine. Some very minor miss congruity but nothing to be worried about. Looks like it must be soft tissue damage.
Few mind at rest very relived ... Ok so all his joints are fine ct scan and invasive investigation shows no problems in any joints.
Ten minutes later I get a call. Anybody guess..
Yes that's right they operated on the wrong fking leg. They opened up and fked around with a perfect leg.
fking ridiculas in 2015 theses things shouldn't happen. There are check lists everybody in the room should read the notes and agree.
It's a fkng disgrace.
king farce has just been topped off today, I'm so angry I can't even think straight. I feel sick.From day one this has been handled poorly we have had appologies from senior vets because young vets made mistakes that senior vet then wanted to operate on his left should when his right leg is the issue!!! Thank f
k we had lost all confidence in that bunch of tts and went to a specialist. I say thank f
k but they are even worse.Logan went in today for his laprescopy on his right elbow. I was stressed enough that was the third time we had taken him expecting to leave him for an op.
I could have cried leaving him but the vet said don't worry between the 2 doing the operation 40 years experience....
Anyway get a call from him I saw you looked stressed so I just wanted to set your mind at rest we looked in his joint and it allows good. Cartilage fine. Some very minor miss congruity but nothing to be worried about. Looks like it must be soft tissue damage.
Few mind at rest very relived ... Ok so all his joints are fine ct scan and invasive investigation shows no problems in any joints.
Ten minutes later I get a call. Anybody guess..
Yes that's right they operated on the wrong f
king leg. They opened up and fked around with a perfect leg. f
king ridiculas in 2015 theses things shouldn't happen. There are check lists everybody in the room should read the notes and agree.It's a f
kng disgrace. 
. Have they done done the correct leg now??I really feel for you and more for your poor mutt! I've been having a similar time with my little lass (Phoebe - black lab) and the vets I've used for a decade proved to be worse than effing useless. I'm just composing a letter of complaint now...
Last summer she went lame on her left front leg, took her to the vets and saw a newly qualified vet that said it was her arthritus, rest her and all will be well.
A few days before Christmas she broke her right front elbow and the same young vet accused me of abusing her and that this was an old break and that my options were basically, amputation or PTS. There was a third option of an ortho surgeon in Bristol who was interested in the case (the case, not my poor dog!) but they wanted ct scans and I'd be looking at many thousands. The implication being that she wasn't worth it!
I always make an effort to see the same vet at that surgery as she knows Phoebe, but, Christmas, holidays... As you, I was distraught and a little in shock to be honest.
I took advice from here (Bex and others) and also locally for a good vet and found one not many miles away. Of course, he was also on holiday so nothing got done until the 6th of Jan when we finally met him and he x-rayed her himself (he wasn't happy with the pictures from the old vets) and he also x-rayed her other front leg as he felt there was something amiss there as well - it's very lumpy.
It turns out, like you, the old vet had x-rayed the wrong leg! It further appears that she broke the left leg back in the summer which this useless tit missed and she has somehow managed with it and it has now sort of healed (badly, but it works!) and the right front elbow has broken and displaced by several cm.
Anyway, the new vet - Rod - operated the following day - 7 screws, big plate and a huge special bolt type thing installed. She is now, finally, on the mend. She is now allowed short walks and limps like hell, but she is alive and has four legs, which she wouldn't have if I had listened to the idiot at her previous vets!
I wonder if there is some regulatory body for vets as these incompetants (yours and mine) need reporting.
I apologise for the long post about my little girls problems, I hope that you get a decent vet and get your pooch sorted.
Best of luck.
Last summer she went lame on her left front leg, took her to the vets and saw a newly qualified vet that said it was her arthritus, rest her and all will be well.
A few days before Christmas she broke her right front elbow and the same young vet accused me of abusing her and that this was an old break and that my options were basically, amputation or PTS. There was a third option of an ortho surgeon in Bristol who was interested in the case (the case, not my poor dog!) but they wanted ct scans and I'd be looking at many thousands. The implication being that she wasn't worth it!
I always make an effort to see the same vet at that surgery as she knows Phoebe, but, Christmas, holidays... As you, I was distraught and a little in shock to be honest.
I took advice from here (Bex and others) and also locally for a good vet and found one not many miles away. Of course, he was also on holiday so nothing got done until the 6th of Jan when we finally met him and he x-rayed her himself (he wasn't happy with the pictures from the old vets) and he also x-rayed her other front leg as he felt there was something amiss there as well - it's very lumpy.
It turns out, like you, the old vet had x-rayed the wrong leg! It further appears that she broke the left leg back in the summer which this useless tit missed and she has somehow managed with it and it has now sort of healed (badly, but it works!) and the right front elbow has broken and displaced by several cm.
Anyway, the new vet - Rod - operated the following day - 7 screws, big plate and a huge special bolt type thing installed. She is now, finally, on the mend. She is now allowed short walks and limps like hell, but she is alive and has four legs, which she wouldn't have if I had listened to the idiot at her previous vets!
I wonder if there is some regulatory body for vets as these incompetants (yours and mine) need reporting.
I apologise for the long post about my little girls problems, I hope that you get a decent vet and get your pooch sorted.
Best of luck.
No. They want us to book him in next week.
I just don't know what to do. I'm completely lost. he's the most precious thing I have. And these butchers are just fking around.
Part of my job is investigating clinical incidents I made it clear it was his right leg. I even asked him to inspect it again because no matter what I do I can't get him to react no matter how I prod and poke him. I was surprised when he wrang first but now I'm wondering if it was a deliberate cover up. I'm wondering if they did actually remove bone or Caroline from the wrong leg its a pattern I've seen before.
I.e all was well we didn't do anything... Oh it's the wrong leg but at least we didn't do anything, it was no more than 5 or ten minutes he range back.
How you can then go and operate on the wrong fking leg ten minutes later.
I understand these things are hard to diagnose but that's what the ct scan was for and the the exploratory investigation.
So my boy has has a procedure he didn't need and we are still at square one after nearly a year.
I just don't know what to do. I'm completely lost. he's the most precious thing I have. And these butchers are just f
king around.Part of my job is investigating clinical incidents I made it clear it was his right leg. I even asked him to inspect it again because no matter what I do I can't get him to react no matter how I prod and poke him. I was surprised when he wrang first but now I'm wondering if it was a deliberate cover up. I'm wondering if they did actually remove bone or Caroline from the wrong leg its a pattern I've seen before.
I.e all was well we didn't do anything... Oh it's the wrong leg but at least we didn't do anything, it was no more than 5 or ten minutes he range back.
How you can then go and operate on the wrong f
king leg ten minutes later.I understand these things are hard to diagnose but that's what the ct scan was for and the the exploratory investigation.
So my boy has has a procedure he didn't need and we are still at square one after nearly a year.
Xtriple129 said:
I wonder if there is some regulatory body for vets as these incompetants (yours and mine) need reporting.
I apologise for the long post about my little girls problems, I hope that you get a decent vet and get your pooch sorted.
Best of luck.
I was wondering the same. For humans it's the MHRA along with other avenues.
They say he has to stay in tonight the first night he has ever been away from us. I. Shaking to think he's lieing there in pain away from on now not only on his bad leg but his good one too.
First ever time we took him to the last vet ( he had seen two others previously who kept saying don't do anything for month anpfter month then said oh he's still limping nothing we can do) over his I'm not shamed to say made me faint, I took him in for his front leg and he said" I'm not worried about his limp there is something seriously wrong with both his hips"
A full day at work totally stressed out only for to say his hips are perfect he's just Hoyt so much muscle his movements restricted. ( I'd been talking to somebody in the waiting room who had a young dog put down because of hip and should issues)
Edited by Pesty on Tuesday 3rd February 16:10
Thanks bex I'll take. A look.
I don't think they can solve the issue unless they have a time machine.
Assuming they are telling the truth and did not do bone removeal ( what they said they might do on the other leg) if all they have done is poked around with the camera are they likely to have caused any lasting damage.
It breaks my heart to see him limp on one. Limping on both would finish me off,
I don't think they can solve the issue unless they have a time machine.
Assuming they are telling the truth and did not do bone removeal ( what they said they might do on the other leg) if all they have done is poked around with the camera are they likely to have caused any lasting damage.
It breaks my heart to see him limp on one. Limping on both would finish me off,
No if they did nothing invasive then just looking should not cause long term issues it shouldn't even exacerbate if there was anything underlying. The vets I've seen operate on joints etc have always been tentative on initial examinations before proceeding with an op.
http://www.rcvs.org.uk/document-library/making-a-c...
http://www.rcvs.org.uk/document-library/making-a-c...
Edited by bexVN on Tuesday 3rd February 16:20
Ok sounds heartening they said as his joint was so small they would have to extend the joint as the cameras they use are larger than normal because small ones are expensive and break.
They have still been poking around with a camera inside a good joint. They had to make incisions through tissue of some kind /s
He's now hoing to have to heal from that and we still don't know what's wrong with the other side.
Full of himself he was too 20 years experience my arse
They have still been poking around with a camera inside a good joint. They had to make incisions through tissue of some kind /s
He's now hoing to have to heal from that and we still don't know what's wrong with the other side.
Full of himself he was too 20 years experience my arse
He didn't sound that bothered to be honest.
This is the fourth time he's been anaesnetised. For one limp.
First time they forgot to x Ray his elbows so had to go back for them again
Third time ct scan and supposed operation on left shoulder which didn't happen.
Now today. And still no closer to any sort of action or solution.
Jasandjules said:
Sorry to hear this. Hopefully in a couple of weeks he will be fixed up and this will all be behind you.
That's the thing. He tore into me and said my expectations where too high when I left him.. He said it was basically 50/50 and even if improved my dog would never be an 'athlete' again. Just that the limp would be more manageable.
Can you imagine the relief when he called and said the joint was fine?
He apologised for speaking to me like that... Saying my hopes were too high for a good outcome and he had to shake that out of me. Which was the only way I could bring myself to leave him. I was holding back the tears which is why he phoned me to let me know all was fine.
The house is empty it's horrible. I'm know I'm overly attached to this dog but I can't help it. He's my life.
I'm so f
king angry right now. I couldn't speak when he phoned me I was so upset. Smug bd needs his knee operating on with a bat.He was saying mistakes happen. Oh and he added at least we know the left leg is fine. We knew that already you t
t.Once I get over the anger I now have to decide what to with him. I've cancelled a doctors appointment tomorrow so I can go pick him up. I'm not an angry man generally it takes a lot to get me to kick off but I'm not sure it's a good idea I go.
That vet won't be there.
I don't think I can bring myself to leave him there or anywhere else now.
That vet won't be there.
I don't think I can bring myself to leave him there or anywhere else now.
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