How deal with a lame dog that just won't stop running.
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Oh, Pesty! I've not been around on this forum much the past year recently... so heart-breaking reading this thread 
And what a mistake for the vets to make!
Poor Logan. I'd be livid if I had to go through that.
-apologies if I missed this further up... once he's recovered from hisneedless op, you could try some more advanced behavioural/obediance training with him, to help with his excess energy? It obviously won't be a complete substitute for the 2-3 hour sprinting sessions Logan's used to, but it might help tire him out a bit more, without being too much work on his leg(s)?
And what a mistake for the vets to make!
Poor Logan. I'd be livid if I had to go through that.-apologies if I missed this further up... once he's recovered from his
Hi Ryan,
Thanks yes we have been trying to mentally stimulate him. It has got a lot better and he's calmed down a lot.
I think if you excecise a fit dog they just get fitter and want more. Also might be an age thing but he's definitely calming down. He still brings his balls to me though
I went in today. The guy who did the op wasn't there but I saw a director. Couldn't appologise enough but it's just words doent help or stop anything. I stayed calm somehow.
It is only a minor consolation that they inspected that joint and he described it as perfect.
Thanks yes we have been trying to mentally stimulate him. It has got a lot better and he's calmed down a lot.
I think if you excecise a fit dog they just get fitter and want more. Also might be an age thing but he's definitely calming down. He still brings his balls to me though
I went in today. The guy who did the op wasn't there but I saw a director. Couldn't appologise enough but it's just words doent help or stop anything. I stayed calm somehow.
It is only a minor consolation that they inspected that joint and he described it as perfect.
Pesty said:
Hi Ryan,
Thanks yes we have been trying to mentally stimulate him. It has got a lot better and he's calmed down a lot.
I think if you excecise a fit dog they just get fitter and want more. Also might be an age thing but he's definitely calming down. He still brings his balls to me though
I went in today. The guy who did the op wasn't there but I saw a director. Couldn't appologise enough but it's just words doent help or stop anything. I stayed calm somehow.
It is only a minor consolation that they inspected that joint and he described it as perfect.
Assuming his ears are fine now I'd start swimming the bejesus out of himThanks yes we have been trying to mentally stimulate him. It has got a lot better and he's calmed down a lot.
I think if you excecise a fit dog they just get fitter and want more. Also might be an age thing but he's definitely calming down. He still brings his balls to me though
I went in today. The guy who did the op wasn't there but I saw a director. Couldn't appologise enough but it's just words doent help or stop anything. I stayed calm somehow.
It is only a minor consolation that they inspected that joint and he described it as perfect.
Ears fine. I was swimming him at the start because one vet said it would be good. It kept him happy. And we have a pond not far away not much of a walk to get to.
But this specialist said definitely do not let him swim or walk on loose surfaces.
I'm not doing anything until I know his left leg is heeling. There is still danger of infection I assme and it looks horrible all red, swollen and bruised.
Then I will call the guy recommended above and talk with him. My worry is that he will want to do yet more ct scans of his own so another anaesnetised event with no outcome. I but I don't want to presume.
He's not himself very subdued. Never seen him like this. He also seems to have a very sore throat as he is make very quiet noises.
But this specialist said definitely do not let him swim or walk on loose surfaces.
I'm not doing anything until I know his left leg is heeling. There is still danger of infection I assme and it looks horrible all red, swollen and bruised.
Then I will call the guy recommended above and talk with him. My worry is that he will want to do yet more ct scans of his own so another anaesnetised event with no outcome. I but I don't want to presume.
He's not himself very subdued. Never seen him like this. He also seems to have a very sore throat as he is make very quiet noises.
If he can go for "normal" short walks, get some fresh air and be generally mobile, I would really recommend taking a breather, trying to forget about it for a bit and really researching a decent specialist vet.
Good vets are few and far between and most vets will always want to do something to earn a fee or at least be seen to be doing something.
Good vets are few and far between and most vets will always want to do something to earn a fee or at least be seen to be doing something.
Edited by anonymous-user on Thursday 5th February 23:10
Pesty said:
Hi Ryan,
Thanks yes we have been trying to mentally stimulate him. It has got a lot better and he's calmed down a lot.
I think if you excecise a fit dog they just get fitter and want more. Also might be an age thing but he's definitely calming down. He still brings his balls to me though
I went in today. The guy who did the op wasn't there but I saw a director. Couldn't appologise enough but it's just words doent help or stop anything. I stayed calm somehow.
It is only a minor consolation that they inspected that joint and he described it as perfect.
Glad to hear he's calmed down a bit. Can you revive his toy stock with toys he hasn't yet associated with pelting around like a lunatic? I.e. hide his balls for now... but perhaps he could start destroying plush/soft toys whilst lying down? Thanks yes we have been trying to mentally stimulate him. It has got a lot better and he's calmed down a lot.
I think if you excecise a fit dog they just get fitter and want more. Also might be an age thing but he's definitely calming down. He still brings his balls to me though
I went in today. The guy who did the op wasn't there but I saw a director. Couldn't appologise enough but it's just words doent help or stop anything. I stayed calm somehow.
It is only a minor consolation that they inspected that joint and he described it as perfect.
On the plus side, if his good leg is in perfect nick, healing from the op shouldn't take too long.
He might still just be a bit low and groggy from the GA?
Sympathies, though - can understand you're not terribly eager to book him in for another round of it, especially when he's still out of sorts from the last one. Tough times.
Oh bloody hell Pesty that is terrible. Poor Logan
I hope the vet isnt charging you for the bodged op?
I know what you are going through having to keep the poor bugger calm. As you know my shepherd has just had her knee pulled open and is recovering from hopefully fixing that. She just wants to run. She will try tearing about the house and I have to grab her and settle her down.
Dunno if you have tried it with Logan but scent work is quite good for wearing them out. I hide bits of meat or cheese about the house and she will go off and find them all. Keeps her occupied for 10 mins a time and she is only slowly walking.
Hope his good leg fixes soon and you find a good specialist. Try sending an email to the Supervet guy? see if he has any ideas or can suggest a contact of his?
I hope the vet isnt charging you for the bodged op?
I know what you are going through having to keep the poor bugger calm. As you know my shepherd has just had her knee pulled open and is recovering from hopefully fixing that. She just wants to run. She will try tearing about the house and I have to grab her and settle her down.
Dunno if you have tried it with Logan but scent work is quite good for wearing them out. I hide bits of meat or cheese about the house and she will go off and find them all. Keeps her occupied for 10 mins a time and she is only slowly walking.
Hope his good leg fixes soon and you find a good specialist. Try sending an email to the Supervet guy? see if he has any ideas or can suggest a contact of his?
Thanks guys,
Any toy usually gets brought to me to throw. If I don't throw it he tosses it himself he's like a cat chases it around then destroys it.
Ryn36 said:
Glad to hear he's calmed down a bit. Can you revive his toy stock with toys he hasn't yet associated with pelting around like a lunatic? I.e. hide his balls for now... but perhaps he could start destroying plush/soft toys whilst lying down?
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He has one speed. Pelting around, it's why I love him. The ball he brought is a soft one that I make him sit and he heads it back to me. Keeps him occupied. I removed all his balls months ago but somehow he keeps finding more. He brought in two golf balls recently..
Any toy usually gets brought to me to throw. If I don't throw it he tosses it himself he's like a cat chases it around then destroys it.
Pesty said:
Ears fine. I was swimming him at the start because one vet said it would be good. It kept him happy. And we have a pond not far away not much of a walk to get to.
But this specialist said definitely do not let him swim or walk on loose surfaces.
I'm not doing anything until I know his left leg is heeling. There is still danger of infection I assme and it looks horrible all red, swollen and bruised.
Then I will call the guy recommended above and talk with him. My worry is that he will want to do yet more ct scans of his own so another anaesnetised event with no outcome. I but I don't want to presume.
He's not himself very subdued. Never seen him like this. He also seems to have a very sore throat as he is make very quiet noises.
He won't do CT scans, he doesn't have a machine as he has a HD x-ray instead which does the trick, plus an MRI machine as well. He may want to scope the affected joint to get a proper look at it if he feels that's where the problem lies. You mentioned the previous practice injecting a dye into the joint? This is a bit old school and he prefers to stick a scope in to have a look. Relatively risk free procedure and can't get better than looking with your own eyes!But this specialist said definitely do not let him swim or walk on loose surfaces.
I'm not doing anything until I know his left leg is heeling. There is still danger of infection I assme and it looks horrible all red, swollen and bruised.
Then I will call the guy recommended above and talk with him. My worry is that he will want to do yet more ct scans of his own so another anaesnetised event with no outcome. I but I don't want to presume.
He's not himself very subdued. Never seen him like this. He also seems to have a very sore throat as he is make very quiet noises.
Hi thanks that was the previous vet who were convinced of many things. The last thing being left shoulder which they injected dye into. Going by watching him walk they decided shoulder.
They x rayed all joints hips,shoulders and elbows. As that was being done we sent them off to the cc and had him scored, he is still in tact. 000 for elbows and below average for hips. So x Rays didn't reveal anything.
The specialist ( the guy who operated in wrong leg) did a ct scan which he said showd some bone deseases and possible incongruity.
He was supposed to stick a scope in to investigate and remove and bone that shouldn't be there. He was right about the leg being the problem as he hardly ever puts weight on it when standing still now.
They x rayed all joints hips,shoulders and elbows. As that was being done we sent them off to the cc and had him scored, he is still in tact. 000 for elbows and below average for hips. So x Rays didn't reveal anything.
The specialist ( the guy who operated in wrong leg) did a ct scan which he said showd some bone deseases and possible incongruity.
He was supposed to stick a scope in to investigate and remove and bone that shouldn't be there. He was right about the leg being the problem as he hardly ever puts weight on it when standing still now.
Edited by Pesty on Sunday 8th February 18:13
Just readthe whole thread as Id not seen it previously.
Very sorry tale to read, for both you and Logan.
I cant offer any advice other than whats been done already, really hope you can find a good specialist that will help.
Is there a breed club in the UK or Aus that might have heard of this issue in the past and know how or who to resolve it ?
Very sorry tale to read, for both you and Logan.
I cant offer any advice other than whats been done already, really hope you can find a good specialist that will help.
Is there a breed club in the UK or Aus that might have heard of this issue in the past and know how or who to resolve it ?
Hi turn,
There are only two breeders that I know of.
By all accounts this was caused by an injury to his right leg . Fairly common occurrence. All his other joints are perfect so it's not hereditary or a breed issue. He's just hurt himself at some point in the past. Probably a fracture.
There are only two breeders that I know of.
By all accounts this was caused by an injury to his right leg . Fairly common occurrence. All his other joints are perfect so it's not hereditary or a breed issue. He's just hurt himself at some point in the past. Probably a fracture.
Bex and gok.
Could you look at this video please. I'm losing my mind. I filmed this today 6 days after the operation.
As you can see he is very subdued. He is not putting weight on his left leg but is putting weight on his right. His bad leg.
Is this normal after 6 days for this type of op.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lgxfJxEDjJ4&feat...
Could you look at this video please. I'm losing my mind. I filmed this today 6 days after the operation.
As you can see he is very subdued. He is not putting weight on his left leg but is putting weight on his right. His bad leg.
Is this normal after 6 days for this type of op.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lgxfJxEDjJ4&feat...
, that's so upsetting to watch. I am struggling to know what to think. Obviously there would be a bit of bruising post op but I just don't think I'd have expected him to be this lame if they weren't too invasive. Unless you already have and as much as you may be loathe to you need to have a serious talk to the vet who did the surgery. I am gutted to see Logan's obvious discomfort caused purely by unnecessary surgery.Is he on any painkillers?
Summer had her knee pulled apart and muscle reattached with a screw into the bone.
She walked out of the vets the next day with no limp and has been putting weight on it fine ever since.
She was on Loxicom and Tramadol for the first week. Then just Loxicom for the 2nd week.
Summer had her knee pulled apart and muscle reattached with a screw into the bone.
She walked out of the vets the next day with no limp and has been putting weight on it fine ever since.
She was on Loxicom and Tramadol for the first week. Then just Loxicom for the 2nd week.
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