English Bull Terrier
Discussion
2thumbs said:
Hooli said:
The Bully run thing seems familiar too, is there any breed link between EBTs & Staffys?
This was then bred with various other dogs to create a few different breeds.
the ebt is bull and terrier crossed with white English terrier, dalmatian and possibly others.
The staffie is bull and terrier crossed with various working dogs I believe.
so there is a link
Hooli said:
The Bully run thing seems familiar too, is there any breed link between EBTs & Staffys?
The (English) Bull Terrier was created by a man called Hinks, who set out to improve the fighting bull terrier for the dog shows that had become popular in the mid 19th century. The resulting breed was registered with the Kennel Club as the Bull Terrier, which is why, many years later, the original dog had to be registered as the Staffordshire Bull Terrier.
In the meantime, the all-white Bull Terriers had genetic problems, such as deafness, inherited from their White Terrier and Dalmatian ancestors, so bull terriers were crossed back in to the Bull Terrier, creating the coloured Bull Terrier.
Incidentally, the original Bull Terrier looked very different from the current show dog.
This is such a lovely thread! 
Not much to add to the other posters, but would just re-iterate that they are so very, very stubborn. But SO loyal and loving in a way that seems different to general doggy devotion - I won't be without an EBT, now, for as long as I live.
...I'm not convinced that they're ideal running partners - ours does *love* to run, and will have a sprint alongside you if you pick up the pace a bit on a walk... the problem (aside from the fact that they have three speeds: stationary, wombling, sprinting) is that they're also really quite lazy.
Ten minutes in, they'll probably think, "enough". Then you'll be stuck with 30+kg of stubborn muscle that's decided it's done moving for the day. Regardless of whether you're in your house or stuck in the middle of a field two hours from home. They just, quite literally, dig their heels in and refuse to move.
RE leaving them alone... aside from the generic "young pups chew everything, regardless of breed", I do think it's best to go into EBT ownership with the mindset that they are, by and large, "grazers".
Ours was a terror for chewing when she was small. Now, she's fine. Except for every once in a while, you'll find the corner missing off a towel, or four teeth marks in a chair leg...
...on the plus side, as noted, they're also quite lazy, so are generally OK for a few hours, post-walk. However, if anxious/bored, they'll probably resort to chewing.
Ours has a really high prey drive; cats, leafs, scooters, kicked footballs, bags blowing in the wind...
They're SO nosy. Stubborn. Loyal. Intelligent in ways that are hard to identify. Stupid in obvious ways. Lazy. Willing (for the right fee). Not particularly biddable... Loving. Cuddly. Iron-headed. Friendly. Placid (except for 2-3 mins a day). Challenging for the first few years, but which reaps such high rewards.
You very much need to be prepared for the fact that the first couple of yearswill might be Hell On Earth, training-wise. Especially if you have limited experience of puppy-days anyway... but it passes, you all survive, and life becomes rosy again. Far rosier than it was before your EBT.
Not much to add to the other posters, but would just re-iterate that they are so very, very stubborn. But SO loyal and loving in a way that seems different to general doggy devotion - I won't be without an EBT, now, for as long as I live.
...I'm not convinced that they're ideal running partners - ours does *love* to run, and will have a sprint alongside you if you pick up the pace a bit on a walk... the problem (aside from the fact that they have three speeds: stationary, wombling, sprinting) is that they're also really quite lazy.
Ten minutes in, they'll probably think, "enough". Then you'll be stuck with 30+kg of stubborn muscle that's decided it's done moving for the day. Regardless of whether you're in your house or stuck in the middle of a field two hours from home. They just, quite literally, dig their heels in and refuse to move.
RE leaving them alone... aside from the generic "young pups chew everything, regardless of breed", I do think it's best to go into EBT ownership with the mindset that they are, by and large, "grazers".
Ours was a terror for chewing when she was small. Now, she's fine. Except for every once in a while, you'll find the corner missing off a towel, or four teeth marks in a chair leg...
...on the plus side, as noted, they're also quite lazy, so are generally OK for a few hours, post-walk. However, if anxious/bored, they'll probably resort to chewing.
Ours has a really high prey drive; cats, leafs, scooters, kicked footballs, bags blowing in the wind...
They're SO nosy. Stubborn. Loyal. Intelligent in ways that are hard to identify. Stupid in obvious ways. Lazy. Willing (for the right fee). Not particularly biddable... Loving. Cuddly. Iron-headed. Friendly. Placid (except for 2-3 mins a day). Challenging for the first few years, but which reaps such high rewards.
You very much need to be prepared for the fact that the first couple of years
N'aw, thanks!
I've name-changed since, I think, but I remember when you got your little sweetheart. Frankie, isn't it? I remember you going through the "OH MY GOD THIS CAN'T BE NORMAL IS THIS NORMAL???" phase that happens to us all!
Gratuitous (elegant) pics of our Queen Ella: (she can also be found upside down, legs akimbo, the little tart)
And, top photo bombing;
I've name-changed since, I think, but I remember when you got your little sweetheart. Frankie, isn't it? I remember you going through the "OH MY GOD THIS CAN'T BE NORMAL IS THIS NORMAL???" phase that happens to us all!
Gratuitous (elegant) pics of our Queen Ella: (she can also be found upside down, legs akimbo, the little tart)
And, top photo bombing;
We think she's a beauty, obviously
-her frame is a lot trimmer than some (she's actually sometimes mistaken for a 'big' mini EBT!), and her head is like a little mouse-head compared to some of the larger males we see, but she's still a pretty large dogbeast. And pwiddy, too.
-can we high-jack your thread, OP, and get everyone to post more pictures of their bullie loveliness?!
I think Ella is a similar size to Frankie looking at her pics, Frankie is also quite small compared to some Bully dogs.
She was only 23kgs at the last vet visit, but seems to have chubbed up a little bit over winter.
More piccies
She has always liked being cozy...
...and has never grown out of it!
She was a cute pup
She was only 23kgs at the last vet visit, but seems to have chubbed up a little bit over winter.
More piccies
She has always liked being cozy...
...and has never grown out of it!
She was a cute pup
Edited by 2thumbs on Sunday 22 March 14:18
AAAAAAAH PUPPY PHOTOS!!
Frankie
at "chubbed up at bit"... think it's definitley a winter thing. Took Ella to the vet the other day to check on a lame leg. (At almost an exact weight to Frankie! Ella's ~25kg, too!)
Vet: "...yep, seems to be healing nicely. I would like her to loose just a *little* weight though; it's probably just reduced exercise over winter, but she's carrying a bit round her stomach."
Ella happened to turn round and look back at the vet over her shoulder, at that exact point, as if to say, "I beg your pardon??!"
Made me burst out laughing!
-but PUPPY PICTURES!
(Sorry, OP!)
Frankie
at "chubbed up at bit"... think it's definitley a winter thing. Took Ella to the vet the other day to check on a lame leg. (At almost an exact weight to Frankie! Ella's ~25kg, too!)Vet: "...yep, seems to be healing nicely. I would like her to loose just a *little* weight though; it's probably just reduced exercise over winter, but she's carrying a bit round her stomach."
Ella happened to turn round and look back at the vet over her shoulder, at that exact point, as if to say, "I beg your pardon??!"
Made me burst out laughing!
-but PUPPY PICTURES!
(Sorry, OP!)
Aww they make the most adorable puppies don't they!
Its hard not to feed them treats isn't it, Frankie has a certain look at meal times that just makes you want to pass her some food. She will also sit next to the food cupboard groaning, knowing my wife will take pity and find her something. She is not stupid!
She has become a real baby at the vets lately, I think as a result of her last booster jabs. Last time we went to have her ears checked and cleaned she squealed the place down when the vet got near her. she wriggled so much I couldn't hold her. We came away having not had her ears checked!
Its hard not to feed them treats isn't it, Frankie has a certain look at meal times that just makes you want to pass her some food. She will also sit next to the food cupboard groaning, knowing my wife will take pity and find her something. She is not stupid!
She has become a real baby at the vets lately, I think as a result of her last booster jabs. Last time we went to have her ears checked and cleaned she squealed the place down when the vet got near her. she wriggled so much I couldn't hold her. We came away having not had her ears checked!
2thumbs said:
Its hard not to feed them treats isn't it, Frankie has a certain look at meal times that just makes you want to pass her some food. She will also sit next to the food cupboard groaning, knowing my wife will take pity and find her something. She is not stupid!
Try carrots. Calorific value of wood (near as dammit) - they come out the other end looking pretty much the same. I think a dog's digestive tract is too short for them to digest them.Nice and crunchy so fun to eat, cleans the teeth and they taste sweet and yummy. Cheap too!
Yoki will happily take a whole one, wander off and snip it into inch long chunks and consume the chunks with evident enjoyment. She's just shy of 30Kg at the moment and is on a weight loss program after a recent vet visit. (Is you callin' my dog fat?)
2thumbs said:
Is Ella fussy?
No.
No, Ella is not fussy.
In fact, Ella thinks she is a goat.
Rocks, leafs, sticks, mud, poo, litter, plastic, tissues, rope... *anything* on the floor stands a very good chance of having been inside Ella's mouth as she investigates whether it's edible or not.
"Edible" in Ella's world simply means small enough to go in the mouth.
Good for feeding, bad for walking.
-I was a bit concerned that swapping her to a dry food would make them less interested in dinner, but I've handily mixed them with tinned, oily fish, to begin with... even without the fish, I don't think we'll have any problems!
What's Frankie on? Dry or wet food?
Frankie is on wainwrights tinned meat at the moment. Its supposed to be 80% meat, she loves it. We have tried her on just dry food but she turns her nose up at it by day 3, fussy mare. I think we encouraged her fussiness by giving in to her and cooking her mince or sausages
She has a bowl of dry food left down during the day but she wont touch it until just before bed, then she nibbles a few. I noticed if I feed her she will happily eat the lot.
Like Ella she will eat duck and cow poo quite happily, they are disgusting at times!
She has a bowl of dry food left down during the day but she wont touch it until just before bed, then she nibbles a few. I noticed if I feed her she will happily eat the lot.
Like Ella she will eat duck and cow poo quite happily, they are disgusting at times!
Edited by 2thumbs on Sunday 22 March 22:25
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