Would you let your daughter take up horse riding?
Discussion
bishbosh66 said:
Having read in wonder some of the responses on here, I can only feel sorry for the future of the OPs daughter. A lifetime of cotton wool and hand washing beckons. Please let her at least find out if the whole horse scene is for her. We have two horses and my step daughter wants nothing to do with them, despite having had some lessons (at her own request) at a younger age. My wife gets as much pleasure out of tending for the horses as actually riding them. The combing, cleaning, washing thing gives her a chance to get much closer to the animal, and therefore get more attached and involved with it. Maybe caring for the horse will provide a good lifeskill for the OPs daughter.
Reading is a good life skill...I'm not sure why you would imagine the "responses on here" are any reflection my daughter's future but perhaps you should read MY response on the page prior to this.
MarshPhantom said:
Put your foot down OP. My O/Hs family are bike mental. I wouldn't be happy if they encouraged my children into bikes.
If they wanted to when older I certainly wouldn't stop them.
Which was my initial thought as well. But what about riding a 125cc scrambler round a muddy field on private land? (something I certainly did as a lad).If they wanted to when older I certainly wouldn't stop them.
DoubleSix said:
bishbosh66 said:
Having read in wonder some of the responses on here, I can only feel sorry for the future of the OPs daughter. A lifetime of cotton wool and hand washing beckons. Please let her at least find out if the whole horse scene is for her. We have two horses and my step daughter wants nothing to do with them, despite having had some lessons (at her own request) at a younger age. My wife gets as much pleasure out of tending for the horses as actually riding them. The combing, cleaning, washing thing gives her a chance to get much closer to the animal, and therefore get more attached and involved with it. Maybe caring for the horse will provide a good lifeskill for the OPs daughter.
Reading is a good life skill...I'm not sure why you would imagine the "responses on here" are any reflection my daughter's future but perhaps you should read MY response on the page prior to this.
mph1977 said:
Timmy40 said:
Is reasonableness on both sides perhaps needed? Horse riders on a single track lane IMO could very reasonably expect passing traffic to slow to a virtual crawl as they pass the flighty beast and it's horse, however if a rider decides to take their horse onto a busy NSL A road then it's reasonable IMO to expect the horse and rider to be suitably experienced with traffic that passing car could slow from perhaps 50 to 30-40mph without the rider and horse having a fit.
It is the latter case that causes a lot of issues where I live with some members of the horsey set deciding to take very flighty horses out on a busy A road at rush hour and then gesticulating wildly at passes cars who fail to slam on their brakes and decelerate from 50 to 5 on immediate sight of a horse. It's dangerous for everyone.
pedestrians, cyclists and equestrians have an unequivocable right to use the roads, the operators of mechanically propelled vehicles do not. It is the latter case that causes a lot of issues where I live with some members of the horsey set deciding to take very flighty horses out on a busy A road at rush hour and then gesticulating wildly at passes cars who fail to slam on their brakes and decelerate from 50 to 5 on immediate sight of a horse. It's dangerous for everyone.
care to re-phrase your assertion after reading the HC and cited Legislation .
If you are unable to control your horse around vehicles travelling at moderate speed then it's patently not a good idea to ride said horse on a busy A-road. Any responsible rider would/ should ensure that if they wish to do so both they and the horse are suitably used to traffic or of the right temperament to deal with it.
If that's not the case then IMO the rider is, a bit like you, an idiot.
Edited by Timmy40 on Thursday 19th March 14:08
Timmy40 said:
mph1977 said:
Timmy40 said:
Is reasonableness on both sides perhaps needed? Horse riders on a single track lane IMO could very reasonably expect passing traffic to slow to a virtual crawl as they pass the flighty beast and it's horse, however if a rider decides to take their horse onto a busy NSL A road then it's reasonable IMO to expect the horse and rider to be suitably experienced with traffic that passing car could slow from perhaps 50 to 30-40mph without the rider and horse having a fit.
It is the latter case that causes a lot of issues where I live with some members of the horsey set deciding to take very flighty horses out on a busy A road at rush hour and then gesticulating wildly at passes cars who fail to slam on their brakes and decelerate from 50 to 5 on immediate sight of a horse. It's dangerous for everyone.
pedestrians, cyclists and equestrians have an unequivocable right to use the roads, the operators of mechanically propelled vehicles do not. It is the latter case that causes a lot of issues where I live with some members of the horsey set deciding to take very flighty horses out on a busy A road at rush hour and then gesticulating wildly at passes cars who fail to slam on their brakes and decelerate from 50 to 5 on immediate sight of a horse. It's dangerous for everyone.
care to re-phrase your assertion after reading the HC and cited Legislation .
Thanks
DoubleSix said:
MarshPhantom said:
Put your foot down OP. My O/Hs family are bike mental. I wouldn't be happy if they encouraged my children into bikes.
If they wanted to when older I certainly wouldn't stop them.
Which was my initial thought as well. But what about riding a 125cc scrambler round a muddy field on private land? (something I certainly did as a lad).If they wanted to when older I certainly wouldn't stop them.
DoubleSix said:
bishbosh66 said:
Having read in wonder some of the responses on here, I can only feel sorry for the future of the OPs daughter. A lifetime of cotton wool and hand washing beckons. Please let her at least find out if the whole horse scene is for her. We have two horses and my step daughter wants nothing to do with them, despite having had some lessons (at her own request) at a younger age. My wife gets as much pleasure out of tending for the horses as actually riding them. The combing, cleaning, washing thing gives her a chance to get much closer to the animal, and therefore get more attached and involved with it. Maybe caring for the horse will provide a good lifeskill for the OPs daughter.
Reading is a good life skill...I'm not sure why you would imagine the "responses on here" are any reflection my daughter's future but perhaps you should read MY response on the page prior to this.
bishbosh66 said:
DoubleSix said:
bishbosh66 said:
Having read in wonder some of the responses on here, I can only feel sorry for the future of the OPs daughter. A lifetime of cotton wool and hand washing beckons. Please let her at least find out if the whole horse scene is for her. We have two horses and my step daughter wants nothing to do with them, despite having had some lessons (at her own request) at a younger age. My wife gets as much pleasure out of tending for the horses as actually riding them. The combing, cleaning, washing thing gives her a chance to get much closer to the animal, and therefore get more attached and involved with it. Maybe caring for the horse will provide a good lifeskill for the OPs daughter.
Reading is a good life skill...I'm not sure why you would imagine the "responses on here" are any reflection my daughter's future but perhaps you should read MY response on the page prior to this.
bishbosh66 said:
I suggested that some of the responses on the topic advocated doing the utmost to mimimize any kind of risk for your offspring - and that I felt sorry for her having to go through life wrapped in cotton wool...
Why are assuming he would take their advice - not the far more sensible advice - which he already stated he would be taking?He got the hump because you a. can't be bothered to read the thread b. assumed he would take one particular set of advice and c. accused him of being an over-protective parent.
To follow up you told him to MTFU after he quite rightly pointed out you are both lazy and wrong.
I feel sorry that any of your offspring will have no choice but to share your DNA.
At least it is limited to 50% I suppose.
walm said:
bishbosh66 said:
I suggested that some of the responses on the topic advocated doing the utmost to mimimize any kind of risk for your offspring - and that I felt sorry for her having to go through life wrapped in cotton wool...
Why are assuming he would take their advice - not the far more sensible advice - which he already stated he would be taking?He got the hump because you a. can't be bothered to read the thread b. assumed he would take one particular set of advice and c. accused him of being an over-protective parent.
To follow up you told him to MTFU after he quite rightly pointed out you are both lazy and wrong.
I feel sorry that any of your offspring will have no choice but to share your DNA.
At least it is limited to 50% I suppose.
I really didn't have the energy today...
doogz said:
It's spelt "brakes" and you shouldn't skam on your brakes when you see what you think is a police officer. You should be driving at an appropriate speed regardless of whether it turns out to be a police officer, joe public on their horse, or a bike, whatever.
If someone needs to resort to spelling or grammar then its always a good indication they don't have a particularly strong argument 
Its instinct to slow down if you see a police man, police car, speed camera etc etc. When I lived in the UK I lived right near a fixed camera and you see it all the time when people weren't even speeding in the first place.
Its arsey behaviour dressing up as a cop. I'm not saying what I've done in retaliation isn't arsey behaviour too - I know perfectly well that it is. But perhaps if these clowns experience some negative results from impersonating a cop, they'll stop doing it?
KFC said:
But perhaps if these clowns experience some negative results from impersonating a cop, they'll stop doing it?
Nope. They already crossed the line beyond rational thinking. They believe you are scum and need scaring. All it'll do is make them buy something else like it as you are clearly not getting the message. You need to remember they believe they are totally rational actions they are taking and they have the moral high ground.Options include:
A)Kill them but that's a bit extreme.
B)Ignore them and hope they die cold, bitter and alone.
C)React to them and up the ante.
KFC said:
If someone needs to resort to spelling or grammar then its always a good indication they don't have a particularly strong argument
Its instinct to slow down if you see a police man, police car, speed camera etc etc. When I lived in the UK I lived right near a fixed camera and you see it all the time when people weren't even speeding in the first place.
Its arsey behaviour dressing up as a cop. I'm not saying what I've done in retaliation isn't arsey behaviour too - I know perfectly well that it is. But perhaps if these clowns experience some negative results from impersonating a cop, they'll stop doing it?
Why do you think they are dressing like that?Its instinct to slow down if you see a police man, police car, speed camera etc etc. When I lived in the UK I lived right near a fixed camera and you see it all the time when people weren't even speeding in the first place.
Its arsey behaviour dressing up as a cop. I'm not saying what I've done in retaliation isn't arsey behaviour too - I know perfectly well that it is. But perhaps if these clowns experience some negative results from impersonating a cop, they'll stop doing it?
a) Just to piss you off
Or
b) because they've had people go past too close, too fast, and are using a bit of trickery to slow them down in the interest of self-presevation?
Why does it annoy you? Because you slowed down a bit? Or because they tricked you?
Here's a summary of my two-penneth worth...
For a kinda comparison, I rode all kinds of motorbikes, often recklessly on the roads, for over 20 years. Then I went racing British National Superbikes for about five years too. Total tally of injuries - a dislocated knee and a shoulder separation. Despite motorbikes having a morbidly dangerous reputation.
Then two years ago I started training / working as a Paramedic. In those two years I have been to just one RTC involving a motorbike, where the rider walked away with some bruising to his knee.
Compared to me attending around a dozen horse-related incidents. Some of them were minor injuries, some of them were more major, and a handful were life-changing.
So in my experience - there have been a far higher proportion of injuries involving horses than anything else. So let's put it this way....I wouldn't get on a horse again, let alone allow someone in my family to. They seem to be lethal!!!
For a kinda comparison, I rode all kinds of motorbikes, often recklessly on the roads, for over 20 years. Then I went racing British National Superbikes for about five years too. Total tally of injuries - a dislocated knee and a shoulder separation. Despite motorbikes having a morbidly dangerous reputation.
Then two years ago I started training / working as a Paramedic. In those two years I have been to just one RTC involving a motorbike, where the rider walked away with some bruising to his knee.
Compared to me attending around a dozen horse-related incidents. Some of them were minor injuries, some of them were more major, and a handful were life-changing.
So in my experience - there have been a far higher proportion of injuries involving horses than anything else. So let's put it this way....I wouldn't get on a horse again, let alone allow someone in my family to. They seem to be lethal!!!
Ray Luxury-Yacht said:
Here's a summary of my two-penneth worth...
For a kinda comparison, I rode all kinds of motorbikes, often recklessly on the roads, for over 20 years. Then I went racing British National Superbikes for about five years too. Total tally of injuries - a dislocated knee and a shoulder separation. Despite motorbikes having a morbidly dangerous reputation.
Then two years ago I started training / working as a Paramedic. In those two years I have been to just one RTC involving a motorbike, where the rider walked away with some bruising to his knee.
Compared to me attending around a dozen horse-related incidents. Some of them were minor injuries, some of them were more major, and a handful were life-changing.
So in my experience - there have been a far higher proportion of injuries involving horses than anything else. So let's put it this way....I wouldn't get on a horse again, let alone allow someone in my family to. They seem to be lethal!!!
rayFor a kinda comparison, I rode all kinds of motorbikes, often recklessly on the roads, for over 20 years. Then I went racing British National Superbikes for about five years too. Total tally of injuries - a dislocated knee and a shoulder separation. Despite motorbikes having a morbidly dangerous reputation.
Then two years ago I started training / working as a Paramedic. In those two years I have been to just one RTC involving a motorbike, where the rider walked away with some bruising to his knee.
Compared to me attending around a dozen horse-related incidents. Some of them were minor injuries, some of them were more major, and a handful were life-changing.
So in my experience - there have been a far higher proportion of injuries involving horses than anything else. So let's put it this way....I wouldn't get on a horse again, let alone allow someone in my family to. They seem to be lethal!!!
selection bias at play here i suspect
how many sproting motorcyclists have a mini track or mini MotoX circuit in their backyard vs how many show jumpers / eventers have a 'full sized' jumps but reduced number of them in their paddock
i raise that point as most organised competitive events in either have some level of med cover and the requirements for motorsport are rather more onerous than for lower level / local equestrian events (i'm not aware of any motorsport where you can get away with a couple of first aiders and a random GP - but a lot of local horse shows with jumping seem to have that kind of cover vs an ambulance and if a Doc is required one with proper training for trauma )
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