Dogs still fighting.

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so called

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9,090 posts

210 months

Wednesday 1st April 2015
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Hi All, I posted back in January that at around 6 months old our two (new) dogs had started fighting.
My Daughter had a hospital visit due to a bite while trying to separate them and then I too ended up with a nasty bite on my leg.
Yes, we are aware not to get in between them during the action but things can go wrong bla bla bla.

We employed a very skilled dog trainer who has made significant improvements in both of the dogs behavior and also our own skills.
Things have been relatively quiet the since the 'Christmas showdown' but the last three weeks its all kicked off again.
Cant get hold of the dog trainer, not answering mobile etc.

One problem seems to be that the Huskey/Malmute likes eating garden vegetation but then gets an upset stomach which results in him being short tempered.
The Bulldog, being a Bulldog, ignores the warnings and continues with his "lets play" attitude until the H/M kicks off.
The Bulldog, being a Bulldog, is then up for the fight with passion.

We've tried muzzles etc., but H/M is a bit of an Harry Houdini when it comes to these.

Reaching a point of looking to re-home one of them frown

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gary3170

250 posts

156 months

Thursday 23rd April 2015
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hi mate
if its the bulldog you are rehoming please,please get in touch with these people
http://www.bulldogrescue.org.uk/
as a bulldog owner ,bit%h 8 years,have owned bulldogs for 15 + years i would have gladly taken him on (but i,m an expat living in sweden
but the group above,they are on facebook bulldog rescue rehoming will make 100% sure he goes to the right home
good luck mate
kind regards gary

so called

Original Poster:

9,090 posts

210 months

Friday 24th April 2015
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Hi Gary, that's very much appreciated.
We really don't want to let him go but its good to know the right place if it comes down to it.

Its a bit frustrating at the moment.
I would call George a typical Bulldog with people but he had a go at our Cavalier King Charles last week ???
We are talking 'real pansy dog' who George absolutely slammed. Just glad he didn't get his teeth in.
Poor old Spaniel walk around with a dead leg for a couple of hours afterwards.
Cheers,
Tony.

condor

8,837 posts

249 months

Friday 24th April 2015
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An empty 500ml plastic water bottle with approx 15 small stones in might help to solve your problem. Take the bottle in your hand and do a sharp, short downward movement so the stones hit the lid and return to the base of the bottle together. Say 'LEAVE' in a strong, forceful voice at the same time.

It's a harmless way to correct undesired behaviour.

so called

Original Poster:

9,090 posts

210 months

Tuesday 2nd June 2015
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Well they had a particularly nasty fight last night. redcard

One of them is going frown

condor

8,837 posts

249 months

Tuesday 2nd June 2015
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Did my tip not work then?

bexVN

14,682 posts

212 months

Tuesday 2nd June 2015
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Sadly I suspect these two have gone a bit far for a few stones in a bottle too work.

Once dogs go full on the only thing to break them up quickly is the hosepipe on jet.

Autopilot

1,298 posts

185 months

Tuesday 2nd June 2015
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What did the trainer teach you that initially seemed to improve things?


so called

Original Poster:

9,090 posts

210 months

Tuesday 2nd June 2015
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Hi Chaps,

Unfortunately I work away so have not been in attendance with the trainer.
My Wife and my daughter have worked wiith him at home and at his classes.
He started off with getting them to share which went well.
Later it was discovered that the Husk/Mal had a problem and would react when he felt trapped in a corner by the Bulldog so worked on that.

My daughter learned a lot with regard control and leadership etc. but about 6 months ago the trainer disappeared ? shut up shop, not answering mobile, owes me prepaid moneys etc.

Which was about the time when my leg got in the way during their rumble in the Christmas jungle.
It was very clear at the time that while the H/M was on the edge of control and responded to commands to stop, the Bulldog had the red mist and it took me a while to get him off my leg.
Then completely apologetic, "sorry, didn't know it was your leg, I thought it was his" lick, lick, lick.

It appears last nights episode was that but worse, with both going at it hell for leather.

We have never had a problem like this before and I don't want it now.
Our son and his family have just moved back up to Cheshire with our one year old Grandson.
I don't want this to become an issue regarding visiting.
My son raised an eyebrow or two last year when I got bitten.

This has been on and off for nearly 12 months now and no amount of training has removed the problem.
Yes, we could fine another trainer but I'm not willing to have this behavior for another 12 months.

As I've said before, the Bulldog, for me, is a typical Bulldog. I'm sure he would be fine as an only dog. The same for the H/M. Neither have ever shown any aggression to my, Wife, my daughter or myself.

PS: My leg still hurts.

ali_kat

31,993 posts

222 months

Tuesday 2nd June 2015
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So you have 3 male dogs?

Husky/Malmaute - @10/12 months
Bulldog - 2 weeks younger than the H/M
King Charles - age? leader of the pack

From reading the threads, why would it be the Bulldog you get rid of? Because he's the one that bit? You know he's going to have a hard time getting re-homed because of that?

so called

Original Poster:

9,090 posts

210 months

Tuesday 2nd June 2015
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ali_kat said:
So you have 3 male dogs?

Husky/Malmaute - @10/12 months
Bulldog - 2 weeks younger than the H/M
King Charles - age? leader of the pack

From reading the threads, why would it be the Bulldog you get rid of? Because he's the one that bit? You know he's going to have a hard time getting re-homed because of that?
No, because of the second poster above.
I really love both dogs.
George is our third Bulldog and love the bread. As I said he, for me, is a typical Bulldog. Very much reminds me of my last, Moses, who past in March 2004.
I have to draw a line. Maybe both will go but the M/H is my daughters. We got him as a therapy dog for her.

By the by, the CKCS, Charlie is 11 and is going down hill. He's deaf, losing eyes sight and started to have seizures.
George already sorted Charlie out.

dazco

4,280 posts

190 months

Tuesday 2nd June 2015
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I had two Bullmastiffs that started fighting on a beach on Mull.

All I could do was grab both their collars and try and hold them apart, which put my head inches away from their snarling mouths.

Very scary.

They had a couple of fights but they always seemed to be short and intense. One was more or less disabled and oddly she usually got the upper hand, if i kicked (no other option) her away from the scrap then it would end there and then.

I have started posting in here because I was thinking of getting another dog, after not having one for about four years, and was considering a Rotty or a GSD. I have always fancied a Bulldog though, but could never justify the large cost, so if you want a good home for him to go to then he would be loved to bits here.

ali_kat

31,993 posts

222 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2015
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bounce

so called

Original Poster:

9,090 posts

210 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2015
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dazco said:
I had two Bullmastiffs that started fighting on a beach on Mull.

All I could do was grab both their collars and try and hold them apart, which put my head inches away from their snarling mouths.

Very scary.

They had a couple of fights but they always seemed to be short and intense. One was more or less disabled and oddly she usually got the upper hand, if i kicked (no other option) her away from the scrap then it would end there and then.

I have started posting in here because I was thinking of getting another dog, after not having one for about four years, and was considering a Rotty or a GSD. I have always fancied a Bulldog though, but could never justify the large cost, so if you want a good home for him to go to then he would be loved to bits here.
Hi dazco,
you have mail.
Cheers,
Tony.

dazco

4,280 posts

190 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2015
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so called said:
dazco said:
I had two Bullmastiffs that started fighting on a beach on Mull.

All I could do was grab both their collars and try and hold them apart, which put my head inches away from their snarling mouths.

Very scary.

They had a couple of fights but they always seemed to be short and intense. One was more or less disabled and oddly she usually got the upper hand, if i kicked (no other option) her away from the scrap then it would end there and then.

I have started posting in here because I was thinking of getting another dog, after not having one for about four years, and was considering a Rotty or a GSD. I have always fancied a Bulldog though, but could never justify the large cost, so if you want a good home for him to go to then he would be loved to bits here.
Hi dazco,
you have mail.
Cheers,
Tony.
By A sheer coincidence so do you biggrin

Mexican cuties

691 posts

123 months

Thursday 4th June 2015
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Has he now got a happy home🙌

so called

Original Poster:

9,090 posts

210 months

Thursday 4th June 2015
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Mexican cuties said:
Has he now got a happy home??
George is being re-homed with a friend, locally, from Monday.
Were glad he will still be local and we'll get to see him regularly.

About 20 years ago we had our Bulldog bh Bonny stolen and never saw her again.
It often pops into my head as to what happened to her and how she was treated frown


ali_kat

31,993 posts

222 months

Thursday 4th June 2015
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dazco

4,280 posts

190 months

Thursday 4th June 2015
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so called

Original Poster:

9,090 posts

210 months

Friday 5th June 2015
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Just to add, my heart felt thanks you to all you folks on here.
This was a very painful decision but it has been so very good to have you guys providing advise and guidance.

The friend that is having George is already used to some of his antics.
Steve is a builder by trade and has done a number of jobs at my home.
He is already used to George running off with work tools in that mighty mouth of his,

Again, thank you very much. clap