My cats are killing everything!

[bernhund]

anonymous said:

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This is interesting. My wife says keep them in at night, but our road see's a lot more traffic at day than night, so surely there's an increased risk of one of them being flattened?
The fact is the horrors must and will continue. I just thought I might be able to reduce it a little!

By the way, the farmer wouldn't buy my cats. They're his fields in which their catching the doomed!

[bexVN]

If the road is really busy they are more likely to avoid it, at night if quieter more likely to venture onto it. Plus may cover more ground in the evenings.

[BlackVanDyke]

Quiet night roads I would have thought would be highest risk for an accident because the cat's more likely to think it can cross, but drivers are also more likely to be moving faster and will have less chance to spot the mogger in time.

2 of my 3 are housecats for medical reasons, the third is a housecat because I live 20 metres from the junction of 2 main roads in an estate where people think it's funny to set their dogs on roaming pusscats. If I lived somewhere where the above wasn't a problem, I think I'd do outside in the daytime only - come in at teatime kind of thing.

[stevejh]

One of our cats managed to catch a bat and then let it go in our bedroom. It took ages to get the thing to fly out of the window (the bat not the cat).

[KFC]

I can just imagine the outrage if someone with a Koi pond came on here and said he'd just shot a neighbours cat or left it a bowl of de-icer, yet nobody seems to care that their cats are causing havoc in the neighbourhood

[BlackVanDyke]

KFC said:

I can just imagine the outrage if someone with a Koi pond came on here and said he'd just shot a neighbours cat or left it a bowl of de-icer, yet nobody seems to care that their cats are causing havoc in the neighbourhood

That's a bit unfair - this is a whole thread about someone caring that ?his cats are causing minor local carnage!

[popeyewhite]

bernhund said:

Nature doing its thing.

No it's not - your animals are pets, they're not in their natural habitat at all. I do like cats, but I believe there are waaay too many out there killing wildlife indiscriminately.

[KFC]

BlackVanDyke said:

That's a bit unfair - this is a whole thread about someone caring that ?his cats are causing minor local carnage!

Okay perhaps a bit unfair as the OP made the thread, but there are 2 other people saying their cats are killing Koi.

imo if your cat kills someone else's pets then they're fair game to be humanely destroyed.

[Jasandjules]

KFC said:

I can just imagine the outrage if someone with a Koi pond came on here and said he'd just shot a neighbours cat or left it a bowl of de-icer, yet nobody seems to care that their cats are causing havoc in the neighbourhood

Deliberately murdering someone's pet is rather different to the natural act of a cat hunting.

OP I try to keep ours in overnight.

[TwigtheWonderkid]

stevejh said:

One of our cats managed to catch a bat and then let it go in our bedroom. It took ages to get the thing to fly out of the window (the bat not the cat).

Yup, my 2 (nicknamed Kitler & Pussolini due to their murderous ways) have brought in a bat, unfortunately injured. We get mice daily; we've had a woodpecker, a parrot, other birds galore, rats, frogs and toads, anything really. And we're West London suburbs. If we lived in the country it would be total carnage.

[KFC]

Jasandjules said:

Deliberately murdering someone's pet is rather different to the natural act of a cat hunting.

OP I try to keep ours in overnight.

If its a fox then I think its fine to refer to it as a 'natural act of hunting'. I think you lose any access to that excuse when its a predator you have deliberately introduced like a domestic cat.

[popeyewhite]

KFC said:

Jasandjules said:

Deliberately murdering someone's pet is rather different to the natural act of a cat hunting.

OP I try to keep ours in overnight.

If its a fox then I think its fine to refer to it as a 'natural act of hunting'. I think you lose any access to that excuse when its a predator you have deliberately introduced like a domestic cat.

Quite true.

But even a Fox wouldn't be taken on by a domestic cat in the 'natural world'.

[Jasandjules]

KFC said:

If its a fox then I think its fine to refer to it as a 'natural act of hunting'. I think you lose any access to that excuse when its a predator you have deliberately introduced like a domestic cat.

You do understand why cats live with humans right?

[KFC]

Jasandjules said:

You do understand why cats live with humans right?

I'm assuming the answer is 'pets as companions', just like some people have domestic rats, chinchillas, dogs or anything else?


If your dog barks all day and night and upsets the neighbours - you shouldn't have it.

If your cat kills things in neighbours gardens that upset them (either their own fish, or wildlife they're feeding - then you shouldn't have it.


I can't understand how anyone can possibly justify bringing a cat into a council estate thats high density residential housing and then justify it killing other peoples pets or killing birds on their bird feeders as "well thats what cats do innit"


I might try and use the same excuse and move a tiger, or a paedophile in to my garden shed

[bernhund]

As usual, a simple post looking for simple suggestions, degenerates into the moral dilemmas of animal ownership!

[Simpo Two]

Well, when a dog person turns up.

[BlackVanDyke]

KFC said:

Jasandjules said:

You do understand why cats live with humans right?

I'm assuming the answer is 'pets as companions', just like some people have domestic rats, chinchillas, dogs or anything else?


If your dog barks all day and night and upsets the neighbours - you shouldn't have it.

If your cat kills things in neighbours gardens that upset them (either their own fish, or wildlife they're feeding - then you shouldn't have it.


I can't understand how anyone can possibly justify bringing a cat into a council estate thats high density residential housing and then justify it killing other peoples pets or killing birds on their bird feeders as "well thats what cats do innit"


I might try and use the same excuse and move a tiger, or a paedophile in to my garden shed

Fundamentally, I completely agree. The first duty of taking charge of any domesticated animal is seeing that it doesn't do any harm. But we're talking major social change here, complete paradigm shift for the vast majority of cat owners in the UK (the Aussies have managed it!), and I'm not sure being a one-man crusade on here is going to be a constructive way to set about achieving it.

[KFC]

Simpo Two said:

Well, when a dog person turns up.

I would apply the "don't be a wker to your neighbours" rule equally to dogs as cats. This week I'm working on rehoming a dog for someone which has become a total pain in the butt to everyone in a 1 block radius

[rosie11]

My ginga ninga exterminates all that moves,
Rabbits,hares,rats,moles,weasels,stoats , but very very rarely will get birds except this one that appeared in the kitchen.

[Simpo Two]

KFC said:

equally to dogs as cats

Ah yes my friend but this is your first and most basic misassumption