My cats are killing everything!
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especially the domestic cats! Lol.
menguin said:
I like that, very good. And, if the facts are true, I needn't bother even feeding our moggies!
StoatInACoat said:
Issue with this is that she wakes me up at 3 in the morning and if I don't relent has a massive steaming poo in the litter tray that I can smell one floor and several rooms away and then starts emptying the washing bin.
That's ace. The two cats I have now don't really kill at all, but the 2 before were total machines with one being particularly prone to "toying" with her pray for as long as possible before ripping to shreds and spreading all over the place. I learnt very quickly not to walk around the house first thing in the morning barefoot... ***shudder***
My cat is free to come and go as he pleases 24/7.
He also murders rats, mice and birds on a regular basis.
I did put a bell on once but it didn't make any difference, he just became even more stealthy so that the bell wouldn't jingle. His collar got caught in bushes one night so I haven't replaced it as I don't want him getting stuck somewhere.
This is the first cat I've had (and I didn't get it on purpose) as I usually have dogs. I don't really think of cats as 'pets' or domestic animals, more like wild animals that simply share my home. What they do In their spare time is completely up to them, not me.
If they want to spend it murdering and running across roads then who am I to try to stop them?
He also murders rats, mice and birds on a regular basis.
I did put a bell on once but it didn't make any difference, he just became even more stealthy so that the bell wouldn't jingle. His collar got caught in bushes one night so I haven't replaced it as I don't want him getting stuck somewhere.
This is the first cat I've had (and I didn't get it on purpose) as I usually have dogs. I don't really think of cats as 'pets' or domestic animals, more like wild animals that simply share my home. What they do In their spare time is completely up to them, not me.
If they want to spend it murdering and running across roads then who am I to try to stop them?
Most small mammals and birds have evolved reproductive strategies which anticipate very high mortality, often producing numbers of young way in excess of the winter carrying capacity of their environment. They're at the bottom of the food web - the ecological function of voles is to turn grass into meat. It's probably a more legitimate worry that cats might compete with other predators, but then not many people would want to trade domestic cats for suburban foxes, and the people who get most upset about cats eating garden birds are probably also the sort who want something done about sparrowhawks.
NinjaPower said:
This is the first cat I've had (and I didn't get it on purpose) as I usually have dogs. I don't really think of cats as 'pets' or domestic animals, more like wild animals that simply share my home. What they do In their spare time is completely up to them, not me.
So if they're wild animals then you wouldn't object to someone doing some pest control on them in their own garden I assume?KFC said:
NinjaPower said:
This is the first cat I've had (and I didn't get it on purpose) as I usually have dogs. I don't really think of cats as 'pets' or domestic animals, more like wild animals that simply share my home. What they do In their spare time is completely up to them, not me.
So if they're wild animals then you wouldn't object to someone doing some pest control on them in their own garden I assume?"Your cat kept crapping in my kids sandpit, I was worried about my kids health, I couldn't get the cat to stop so I shot it dead".
I would fully understand.
The cat doesn't take orders from anyone and goes where it pleases. With this comes the risk that it may get run over, killed by a dog, or shot. The same as any other animal that prowls around trespassing wherever it likes.
It's the same as the other thread where someone's dog was shot by a farmer. If your pet is somewhere it shouldn't be then you can reasonably expect it to be killed for one reason or another.
NinjaPower said:
If someone came to my house carrying my dead cat and said:
"Your cat kept crapping in my kids sandpit, I was worried about my kids health, I couldn't get the cat to stop so I shot it dead".
I would fully understand.
The cat doesn't take orders from anyone and goes where it pleases. With this comes the risk that it may get run over, killed by a dog, or shot. The same as any other animal that prowls around trespassing wherever it likes.
It's the same as the other thread where someone's dog was shot by a farmer. If your pet is somewhere it shouldn't be then you can reasonably expect it to be killed for one reason or another.
Nah sorry man, but if someone intentionally killed my dog or cat I'd murder them. "Your cat kept crapping in my kids sandpit, I was worried about my kids health, I couldn't get the cat to stop so I shot it dead".
I would fully understand.
The cat doesn't take orders from anyone and goes where it pleases. With this comes the risk that it may get run over, killed by a dog, or shot. The same as any other animal that prowls around trespassing wherever it likes.
It's the same as the other thread where someone's dog was shot by a farmer. If your pet is somewhere it shouldn't be then you can reasonably expect it to be killed for one reason or another.
They're not a human being fit to live.
NinjaPower said:
KFC said:
NinjaPower said:
This is the first cat I've had (and I didn't get it on purpose) as I usually have dogs. I don't really think of cats as 'pets' or domestic animals, more like wild animals that simply share my home. What they do In their spare time is completely up to them, not me.
So if they're wild animals then you wouldn't object to someone doing some pest control on them in their own garden I assume?"Your cat kept crapping in my kids sandpit, I was worried about my kids health, I couldn't get the cat to stop so I shot it dead".
I would fully understand.
The cat doesn't take orders from anyone and goes where it pleases. With this comes the risk that it may get run over, killed by a dog, or shot. The same as any other animal that prowls around trespassing wherever it likes.
It's the same as the other thread where someone's dog was shot by a farmer. If your pet is somewhere it shouldn't be then you can reasonably expect it to be killed for one reason or another.
bernhund said:
I think there's a lot of truth in this. But it doesn't make it any easier to accept someone killing your pet, simply because there's no point in ownership if you don't want to get attached to it. Perhaps it's an emotional issue rather than a moral one?
Don't get me wrong, I would be very upset. Naturally people get attached to their pets.But I would understand and accept the reason for killing the animal if it was trespassing and causing someone else a problem.
I live in a rural area, own guns and shoot living things myself so maybe I have a different view.
NinjaPower said:
bernhund said:
I think there's a lot of truth in this. But it doesn't make it any easier to accept someone killing your pet, simply because there's no point in ownership if you don't want to get attached to it. Perhaps it's an emotional issue rather than a moral one?
Don't get me wrong, I would be very upset. Naturally people get attached to their pets.But I would understand and accept the reason for killing the animal if it was trespassing and causing someone else a problem.
I live in a rural area, own guns and shoot living things myself so maybe I have a different view.
NinjaPower said:
bernhund said:
I think there's a lot of truth in this. But it doesn't make it any easier to accept someone killing your pet, simply because there's no point in ownership if you don't want to get attached to it. Perhaps it's an emotional issue rather than a moral one?
Don't get me wrong, I would be very upset. Naturally people get attached to their pets.But I would understand and accept the reason for killing the animal if it was trespassing and causing someone else a problem.
I live in a rural area, own guns and shoot living things myself so maybe I have a different view.
My first Bull Terrier, when he was about 9 months old, chased a couple of sheep on the Ashdown Forest. He caught them up and one sheep rolled over, he bounced up and down on it like a trampoline! No damage and no aggression, he just bounced. We dragged him away and I honestly thought he'd have been shot if caught. So, never off the lead again when out of our garden because I know the score.
If a neighbour poisoned my cats, I'd be having words, but ultimately I'd have to take it on the chin.
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