Cat dispute with neighbor
Discussion
Its not the cats fault, its their lazy owners, If you owned any other animal and left it outside all day/night letting it roam about near main roads and generally not looking after it, people would quite rightly call you irresponsible and lazy.
I believe that if you loved your cats as you all claim to do, then you wouldn't allow them out unsupervised and would keep them securely on your own property. I certainly wouldn't let my dog out in the street alone.
Cats are the only animal that a person can have ownership rights over, yet they don't have to take responsibility for its actions, how can this be right?
Cat owners should decide whether they want cats to be classed as 'wild animals' (in which case they have no rights over them when on other peoples property) or 'domesticated animals' in which case they should be responsible for their beloved moggies and clear up their s
t and keep them off other peoples property.
Giving them this special status in law just encourages the lazy and irresponsible ownership of cats. (how many of you would have cats if you had to keep them on your property).
My main objection to cats (apart from their st) is that I no longer get any small birds in my garden due to two close neighbours recently getting 5 cats between them.
I can't see how I or the OP's neighbour could be seen as being unreasonable in not wanting cats in their garden. If we wanted cats then we would have one, we don't so please keep them out, they are your pets so you should be responsible for where they go.
I believe that if you loved your cats as you all claim to do, then you wouldn't allow them out unsupervised and would keep them securely on your own property. I certainly wouldn't let my dog out in the street alone.
Cats are the only animal that a person can have ownership rights over, yet they don't have to take responsibility for its actions, how can this be right?
Cat owners should decide whether they want cats to be classed as 'wild animals' (in which case they have no rights over them when on other peoples property) or 'domesticated animals' in which case they should be responsible for their beloved moggies and clear up their s
t and keep them off other peoples property. Giving them this special status in law just encourages the lazy and irresponsible ownership of cats. (how many of you would have cats if you had to keep them on your property).
My main objection to cats (apart from their s
t) is that I no longer get any small birds in my garden due to two close neighbours recently getting 5 cats between them. I can't see how I or the OP's neighbour could be seen as being unreasonable in not wanting cats in their garden. If we wanted cats then we would have one, we don't so please keep them out, they are your pets so you should be responsible for where they go.
Le Mans Visitor said:
Purchase a supersoaker / water pistol, lend it to your neighbour for them to use on your cat if it goes in their garden. I am sure that once the 'pussy is soggy' it will avoid going anywhere near them again.
If nothing else it shows you are activley doing something about the situation.
I still stand by my original idea above. if you cant bring yourself to knock on the door and approach your neighbour on a simple, effective solution then there is nothing this thread or forum can offer short of you rehoming your cat.If nothing else it shows you are activley doing something about the situation.
Question for all you cat haters - how do you cope with Badgers/foxes seagulls etc which also dig up gardens and leave little gifts around?
As for dog lovers - lots of irresponsible ones around. When I lived in Barrow none of the locals ever cleaned up after their dogs, you had to keep looking at the ground whenever you walked anywhere. Also when was the last time you heard of a cat biting the postman? Or a kid? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-west-wale...http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/548669/Dog-attack... That's why there are special rules for dogs, whereas cats come under the same rules as most domestic animals (ever tried keeping a neighbours pigeon off your land?). In short dogs have the potential to be dangerouse or even deadly to humans, cats don't, thus there are more restrictions legally on dog owners.
None of the above should be read as implying that any dog owners on PH are anything but responsible & law abiding, or that their pets are not the sweetest things going and would never heart so much as a fly
As for dog lovers - lots of irresponsible ones around. When I lived in Barrow none of the locals ever cleaned up after their dogs, you had to keep looking at the ground whenever you walked anywhere. Also when was the last time you heard of a cat biting the postman? Or a kid? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-west-wale...http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/548669/Dog-attack... That's why there are special rules for dogs, whereas cats come under the same rules as most domestic animals (ever tried keeping a neighbours pigeon off your land?). In short dogs have the potential to be dangerouse or even deadly to humans, cats don't, thus there are more restrictions legally on dog owners.
None of the above should be read as implying that any dog owners on PH are anything but responsible & law abiding, or that their pets are not the sweetest things going and would never heart so much as a fly
MBBlat said:
Question for all you cat haters - how do you cope with Badgers/foxes seagulls etc which also dig up gardens and leave little gifts around?
As for dog lovers - lots of irresponsible ones around. When I lived in Barrow none of the locals ever cleaned up after their dogs, you had to keep looking at the ground whenever you walked anywhere. Also when was the last time you heard of a cat biting the postman? Or a kid? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-west-wale...http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/548669/Dog-attack... That's why there are special rules for dogs, whereas cats come under the same rules as most domestic animals (ever tried keeping a neighbours pigeon off your land?). In short dogs have the potential to be dangerouse or even deadly to humans, cats don't, thus there are more restrictions legally on dog owners.
None of the above should be read as implying that any dog owners on PH are anything but responsible & law abiding, or that their pets are not the sweetest things going and would never heart so much as a fly
thats entire post is utter crap.... where did anyone discuss arguments against the rules for dogs? Just the usual evasive and contrived bAs for dog lovers - lots of irresponsible ones around. When I lived in Barrow none of the locals ever cleaned up after their dogs, you had to keep looking at the ground whenever you walked anywhere. Also when was the last time you heard of a cat biting the postman? Or a kid? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-west-wale...http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/548669/Dog-attack... That's why there are special rules for dogs, whereas cats come under the same rules as most domestic animals (ever tried keeping a neighbours pigeon off your land?). In short dogs have the potential to be dangerouse or even deadly to humans, cats don't, thus there are more restrictions legally on dog owners.
None of the above should be read as implying that any dog owners on PH are anything but responsible & law abiding, or that their pets are not the sweetest things going and would never heart so much as a fly
ks from a probably cat owner whichanswers none of the questions regarding cats being allowed to s
t wherever they please without the owner being responsible.Oh what a surprise a cat thread with people calling cat owners selfish wkers whatever next on ph. Cats are regarded as different to dogs by law both have different guidelines and laws etc.
We share our planet with loads of different animals and we all like different things. I don't really like my neigbhours bringing out a lawnmower at 8am on a sunday morning and he doesn't really like my loud mx5 when I leave the house but as grown ups we get on with life and don't act like children. Oh and why do cat haters always resort to name calling and not very nice language with regards to cats this post being case and point.
Now most cats don't like water so a water pistol while not causing harm to the cat will make a cat think twice and if the dog was more up to it would scare the cat away. My cat will run a mile when the dog opposite comes out.
kers whatever next on ph. Cats are regarded as different to dogs by law both have different guidelines and laws etc. We share our planet with loads of different animals and we all like different things. I don't really like my neigbhours bringing out a lawnmower at 8am on a sunday morning and he doesn't really like my loud mx5 when I leave the house but as grown ups we get on with life and don't act like children. Oh and why do cat haters always resort to name calling and not very nice language with regards to cats this post being case and point.
Now most cats don't like water so a water pistol while not causing harm to the cat will make a cat think twice and if the dog was more up to it would scare the cat away. My cat will run a mile when the dog opposite comes out.
MG CHRIS said:
Oh what a surprise a cat thread with people calling cat owners selfish wkers whatever next on ph. Cats are regarded as different to dogs by law both have different guidelines and laws etc.
We share our planet with loads of different animals and we all like different things. I don't really like my neigbhours bringing out a lawnmower at 8am on a sunday morning and he doesn't really like my loud mx5 when I leave the house but as grown ups we get on with life and don't act like children. Oh and why do cat haters always resort to name calling and not very nice language with regards to cats this post being case and point.
Now most cats don't like water so a water pistol while not causing harm to the cat will make a cat think twice and if the dog was more up to it would scare the cat away. My cat will run a mile when the dog opposite comes out.
so you obviously not being one of the selfish pricks I made reference to earlier go around and pick up your cats skers whatever next on ph. Cats are regarded as different to dogs by law both have different guidelines and laws etc. We share our planet with loads of different animals and we all like different things. I don't really like my neigbhours bringing out a lawnmower at 8am on a sunday morning and he doesn't really like my loud mx5 when I leave the house but as grown ups we get on with life and don't act like children. Oh and why do cat haters always resort to name calling and not very nice language with regards to cats this post being case and point.
Now most cats don't like water so a water pistol while not causing harm to the cat will make a cat think twice and if the dog was more up to it would scare the cat away. My cat will run a mile when the dog opposite comes out.
t from your neighbours gardens then?When we moved here in '06 my kids were variously very young or not yet born and I wanted them to enjoy the garden without fear of danger from the faeces of the various moggies in this (pedestrianised) street that visited the property. I took matters into my own hands - actually a spade - and placed them carefully under a tree in the garden of the chief suspect (3 cats) opposite.
Then I told my wife what I had done. She explained that I was in the wrong and insisted that I went back and removed the evidence. I tend to do what she tells me so I returned to the scene of the crime but was caught in the act and had to then go and buy flowers to present as an apology to the understandably slightly miffed catlady.
I remain no less cross about the whole thing although neighbourly relations are excellent as usual. I drop poo down the drain on a weekly basis. The cats in the street all know me and run away when I approach because I stare at them like Paddington and am prone to running fast for a mug of water. I would never hurt one.
So anyway, to summarise, count me in with the anti-cat spackers.
K, thx.
Then I told my wife what I had done. She explained that I was in the wrong and insisted that I went back and removed the evidence. I tend to do what she tells me so I returned to the scene of the crime but was caught in the act and had to then go and buy flowers to present as an apology to the understandably slightly miffed catlady.
I remain no less cross about the whole thing although neighbourly relations are excellent as usual. I drop poo down the drain on a weekly basis. The cats in the street all know me and run away when I approach because I stare at them like Paddington and am prone to running fast for a mug of water. I would never hurt one.
So anyway, to summarise, count me in with the anti-cat spackers.
K, thx.
rich83 said:
But its true.... they are. Just as a dog owner is, who doesnt pick up after their pet.
However dogs dont climb into neighbours gardens and st all over it....I dont think anyone thinks its acceptable to leave dog s
t behind but cat owners complete inability to accept other people dont want their pets st all over their garden is baffling.Greendubber said:
rich83 said:
But its true.... they are. Just as a dog owner is, who doesnt pick up after their pet.
However dogs dont climb into neighbours gardens and st all over it....I dont think anyone thinks its acceptable to leave dog s
t behind but cat owners complete inability to accept other people dont want their pets st all over their garden is baffling.I love the suggestion to go around and pick it up. It is brilliant.
How would that work then? You sit in your garden all day with your binos and identify the cat, take photographic evidence of it defecating, then contact the owner from your list of cat owners in the area, to arrange a suitable time to access your property and remove said faeces every single day? What a workable pragmatic solution.
How would that work then? You sit in your garden all day with your binos and identify the cat, take photographic evidence of it defecating, then contact the owner from your list of cat owners in the area, to arrange a suitable time to access your property and remove said faeces every single day? What a workable pragmatic solution.
I no longer get cats in my back garden, just in the front. To get rid of them from the back garden, we just let the dogs out. Not so easy to do in the front garden as there is a road not far away. The dogs have never caught a cat or for that matter got close to them, but they do provide a good deterrent. Have tried various things in the front garden to get rid of the cats, but nothing has yet worked. Fortunately most of the front is a large driveway with only a 1m2 patch where the cats go.
...and yes I always pick up my dog mess.
...and yes I always pick up my dog mess.
mobbsy30 said:
Cats are the only animal that a person can have ownership rights over, yet they don't have to take responsibility for its actions, how can this be right?
Oh that's right.......none !!
Dog's off leads are prone to kill other animals just the same as cats do.
Cats s
t in gardens, dogs st on fields/parks/forests/beaches/pavements and other public places.Cats have bad owners, dogs have bad owners
Cats have good owners, dogs have good owners.....get over it.
I'd give a cat or dog more time than some of the t
ts that have commented on this thread. Yes I have 3 cats, Yes their s
t does stink and Yes, they are all indoor cats because the world is full of fking morons who find pleasure in hurting animals. rich83 said:
MG CHRIS said:
Oh what a surprise a cat thread with people calling cat owners selfish wkers.....
But its true.... they are. Just as a dog owner is, who doesnt pick up after their pet.kers.....t in the tread of my hiking boots yet it's an unfortunately common experience even though there are numerous bins provided for owners to tidy up.What really gets me are the ones that pick up their dog s
t, bag it and leave the bag hanging from a nearby branch...Tattooboy said:
Because how many domestic cats have killed or maimed people???
Oh that's right.......none !!
Dog's off leads are prone to kill other animals just the same as cats do.
Cats st in gardens, dogs st on fields/parks/forests/beaches/pavements and other public places.
Cats have bad owners, dogs have bad owners
Cats have good owners, dogs have good owners.....get over it.
I'd give a cat or dog more time than some of the tts that have commented on this thread.
Yes I have 3 cats, Yes their st does stink and Yes, they are all indoor cats because the world is full of fking morons who find pleasure in hurting animals.
Agreed, there are bad pet owners across the board, but a large number of cat owners sheer thoughtless and selfishness for anyone else in their community simply astounds me.Oh that's right.......none !!
Dog's off leads are prone to kill other animals just the same as cats do.
Cats s
t in gardens, dogs st on fields/parks/forests/beaches/pavements and other public places.Cats have bad owners, dogs have bad owners
Cats have good owners, dogs have good owners.....get over it.
I'd give a cat or dog more time than some of the t
ts that have commented on this thread. Yes I have 3 cats, Yes their s
t does stink and Yes, they are all indoor cats because the world is full of fking morons who find pleasure in hurting animals. havent seen one single reply to this repeated question....
why is it illegal for a dog to s
t in the street and owners are legally obliged to pick it up, yet cat owners find it perfectly acceptable for their cats to st anywhere and feel they have no responsibility for it just because it isnt currently enforced by law ?hedgefinder said:
Agreed, there are bad pet owners across the board, but a large number of cat owners sheer thoughtless and selfishness for anyone else in their community simply astounds me.
havent seen one single reply to this repeated question....
why is it illegal for a dog to st in the street and owners are legally obliged to pick it up, yet cat owners find it perfectly acceptable for their cats to st anywhere and feel they have no responsibility for it just because it isnt currently enforced by law ?
Because dogs shavent seen one single reply to this repeated question....
why is it illegal for a dog to s
t in the street and owners are legally obliged to pick it up, yet cat owners find it perfectly acceptable for their cats to st anywhere and feel they have no responsibility for it just because it isnt currently enforced by law ?t in parks and pavements, cats usually do it in gardens and bury it. Understand some peoples frustrations when it's not your cat and they use your garden but face it cats get out and you can't train them to crap where you tell them.Thankfully our cats seem to use either their own garden or the bushes that are all around the estate they tend not to even go into other people's gardens
Back to dog owners we have had to stop our daughter cycling up a track alongside the field next to the house as it is littered with dropped bags of dog s
t, why do dog owners do that? Might as well just leave it where they have shat it out as at least the rain would wash it away.Mr GrimNasty said:
hedgefinder said:
rb5er said:
How do you anti cat spackers think people are meant to "control" their cats?
either dont get them in the first place or keep them indoors...try the same rules as other pet owners instead of being a selfish prick.
Oh yes. common sense to trap them inside rather than roam free as they would naturally. 
Animals in captivity = Common sense to you people? Really???
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