Cat dispute with neighbor
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rb5er said:
Oh yes. common sense to trap them inside rather than roam free as they would naturally. 
Animals in captivity = Common sense to you people? Really???
They're a domestic cat not a f
king giraffe. hedgefinder said:
Agreed, there are bad pet owners across the board, but a large number of cat owners sheer thoughtless and selfishness for anyone else in their community simply astounds me.
havent seen one single reply to this repeated question....
why is it illegal for a dog to st in the street and owners are legally obliged to pick it up, yet cat owners find it perfectly acceptable for their cats to st anywhere and feel they have no responsibility for it just because it isnt currently enforced by law ?
It's a very good question. £1000 fine for letting your dog shavent seen one single reply to this repeated question....
why is it illegal for a dog to s
t in the street and owners are legally obliged to pick it up, yet cat owners find it perfectly acceptable for their cats to st anywhere and feel they have no responsibility for it just because it isnt currently enforced by law ?t everywhere. Cat st must be different. 
There are a lot of cats near my girlfriends house,
I like pets, and had a cat in the past (living on an old farm it was a necessity). But they do cheese me off, there is catst everywhere in the garden and no birds or birdsong. Other pet owners have to take responsibility for their animals, why not cat owners?
As to the neighbour, as others have said, it sounds like the not talking is the issue rather than the cat...
I like pets, and had a cat in the past (living on an old farm it was a necessity). But they do cheese me off, there is cats
t everywhere in the garden and no birds or birdsong. Other pet owners have to take responsibility for their animals, why not cat owners?As to the neighbour, as others have said, it sounds like the not talking is the issue rather than the cat...
rb5er said:
Oh yes. common sense to trap them inside rather than roam free as they would naturally. Animals in captivity = Common sense to you people? Really???
I have to ask as its the single most brainless comment I have read on PH in a long time.
All animals would roam naturally, but many animals were domesticated centuries ago.
Or do you think budgies evolved to a natural position in a cage.. ffs
You shouldnt keep any animal if you cant control or be responsible for cleaning up after them....its that simple.
Cats.....
I got banned once from here for making a comment about them..... However sensible head on and keeping comments nice.
If your not an owner of a pet and you get cat poo in your garden then its a pain. especially if its a constant occurrence.
If I was to walk over to your garden and pull down my trousers and take a dump and leave it there then you would be most annoyed - so what is the difference with someones cat that does that ? People get defensive about their own property about the fact that cats seem to go else where other than their own garden to take a dump. And it gets established and take ages to stop it....
And when discussed its like there is a awwww its only a wee cat and a little poo all animals do that. And its like the owners dont get it. I go down a park Ill look for crap on the ground its where dogs go to walk / and generally owners do pick it up, Ive been known to discuss if I see someone walking away leaving a dog crap. However in my own garden thats different mater - why should someone put up with it and why is the law different ?
Maybe cats should be treated like dogs - on a leash and not allowed to roam free then there wouldnt be this issue with cat poo.....
The reason we get so angry is that we think cat owners are laughing behind our backs, and dont take it seriously just how upsetting we find it....
I got banned once from here for making a comment about them..... However sensible head on and keeping comments nice.
If your not an owner of a pet and you get cat poo in your garden then its a pain. especially if its a constant occurrence.
If I was to walk over to your garden and pull down my trousers and take a dump and leave it there then you would be most annoyed - so what is the difference with someones cat that does that ? People get defensive about their own property about the fact that cats seem to go else where other than their own garden to take a dump. And it gets established and take ages to stop it....
And when discussed its like there is a awwww its only a wee cat and a little poo all animals do that. And its like the owners dont get it. I go down a park Ill look for crap on the ground its where dogs go to walk / and generally owners do pick it up, Ive been known to discuss if I see someone walking away leaving a dog crap. However in my own garden thats different mater - why should someone put up with it and why is the law different ?
Maybe cats should be treated like dogs - on a leash and not allowed to roam free then there wouldnt be this issue with cat poo.....
The reason we get so angry is that we think cat owners are laughing behind our backs, and dont take it seriously just how upsetting we find it....
hedgefinder said:
either dont get them in the first place or keep them indoors...try the same rules as other pet owners instead of being a selfish prick.
Don't know where you dog owners get off walking your large carnivores in public, yet I let my tiger loose in the park ONE TIME and all hell breaks loose. OK, it ate a child and mauled a few more, but dogs kill and injure more than that every year. Try the same rules as tiger owners!(fwiw, I don't have a tiger and do have a large dog - but am capable of working out why the rules are different)
ruggedscotty said:
Maybe cats should be treated like dogs - on a leash and not allowed to roam free then there wouldnt be this issue with cat poo.....
The reason we get so angry is that we think cat owners are laughing behind our backs, and dont take it seriously just how upsetting we find it....
If I wanted a pet that I could put on a leash & take for a walk around the local park then I would have got a dog. And it would be alone all day & bark & whine and annoy the neighbours.The reason we get so angry is that we think cat owners are laughing behind our backs, and dont take it seriously just how upsetting we find it....
and I'm not laughing at you, just bemused at why you are taking this far too seriously, and only blaming Cats, round here the Foxes leave far more mess, and do more damage to my lawn. PS my cat uses either her litter tray or my flowerbeds, . The cat however is defiantly laughing behind your back, but they are like that. Just chill & be thankful you live in an area where dog owners do clean up after their mess, believe me when I say that is not the case everywhere.
otolith said:
Don't know where you dog owners get off walking your large carnivores in public, yet I let my tiger loose in the park ONE TIME and all hell breaks loose. OK, it ate a child and mauled a few more, but dogs kill and injure more than that every year. Try the same rules as tiger owners!
(fwiw, I don't have a tiger and do have a large dog - but am capable of working out why the rules are different)
ok, so answer the question posted earlier then....(fwiw, I don't have a tiger and do have a large dog - but am capable of working out why the rules are different)
MBBlat said:
If I wanted a pet that I could put on a leash & take for a walk around the local park then I would have got a dog. And it would be alone all day & bark & whine and annoy the neighbours.
and I'm not laughing at you, just bemused at why you are taking this far too seriously, and only blaming Cats, round here the Foxes leave far more mess, and do more damage to my lawn. PS my cat uses either her litter tray or my flowerbeds, . The cat however is defiantly laughing behind your back, but they are like that. Just chill & be thankful you live in an area where dog owners do clean up after their mess, believe me when I say that is not the case everywhere.
lol... the old foxes excuse as I predicted earlier...and I'm not laughing at you, just bemused at why you are taking this far too seriously, and only blaming Cats, round here the Foxes leave far more mess, and do more damage to my lawn. PS my cat uses either her litter tray or my flowerbeds, . The cat however is defiantly laughing behind your back, but they are like that. Just chill & be thankful you live in an area where dog owners do clean up after their mess, believe me when I say that is not the case everywhere.
hedgefinder said:
Are you really serious with that comment?
You shouldnt keep any animal if you cant control or be responsible for cleaning up after them....its that simple.
It was as serious as your comment or the other posters that said all cats should be kept indoors. yes indeed, plain stupid as is the view of half the posters on this thread.You shouldnt keep any animal if you cant control or be responsible for cleaning up after them....its that simple.
hedgefinder said:
lol... the old foxes excuse as I predicted earlier...
What excuse - fox droppings look & smell remarkably like cat droppings but unlike cats they tend not to bury it.I have also yet to find a cat digging up an established lawn, mine has lots of little holes were either the fox or badger has been after the worms.
So good luck getting the owner of Mr Fox to clean up after it.
PS can anyone recommend some good fox repellent?
rb5er said:
It was as serious as your comment or the other posters that said all cats should be kept indoors. yes indeed, plain stupid as is the view of half the posters on this thread.
what I actually said was that if you are unable to control or be responsible for your pet then you shouldnt be allowed to keep it in the first place.Again I will ask you to answer the question posted earlier regarding your responsiblities as a cat owner... lets see if you give a logical and sensible answer or just call people "spackers" as you are unable to answer the question in any acceptable way as all the cat owners posting so far seem to have been.
hedgefinder said:
rb5er said:
It was as serious as your comment or the other posters that said all cats should be kept indoors. yes indeed, plain stupid as is the view of half the posters on this thread.
what I actually said was that if you are unable to control or be responsible for your pet then you shouldnt be allowed to keep it in the first place.Again I will ask you to answer the question posted earlier regarding your responsiblities as a cat owner... lets see if you give a logical and sensible answer or just call people "spackers" as you are unable to answer the question in any acceptable way as all the cat owners posting so far seem to have been.
t so not a problem I have.So in your view should we somehow control the faeces movements of the birds, foxes, deer and rabbits too? Or is it only cats that need to "be controlled" ?
rb5er said:
Luckily my cat buries its st so not a problem I have.
So in your view should we somehow control the faeces movements of the birds, foxes, deer and rabbits too? Or is it only cats that need to "be controlled" ?
if you check I think you will find that they are what are widely accepted to be termed "wild" animals and as such are not brought in large numbers by "owners" into populated areas and put out into the street day and night. And if they do cause an issue the majority of your list can be perfectly legally shot and eaten as they are not domesticated animals.... or the local council would legally cull their numbers or remove them to a more suitable area....t so not a problem I have.So in your view should we somehow control the faeces movements of the birds, foxes, deer and rabbits too? Or is it only cats that need to "be controlled" ?
Edited by hedgefinder on Monday 27th April 21:36
hedgefinder said:
And if they do cause an issue the majority of your list can be perfectly legally shot and eaten as they are not domesticated animals.... or the local council would legally cull their numbers or remove them to a more suitable area....
Yes indeed the pigeons and foxes that st everywhere are always being culled or removed to suitable areas.If a cat went on farmers land disturbing things regularly it would be shot as would a fox, no question, legal or not.
So in summary because someone bought/found/inherited an animal then it needs to be "controlled" by somehow monitoring it constantly? But foxes can just do what they like as they are not someones pet?
You can argue all you like but cats have their own lives (as do wildlife) and 90% of them don`t s
t on peoples lawns.I won`t continue the conversation further. You obviously think you are right 100% and I think you are wrong 100% so will leave it at that. If you are having cat problems either ask the owner if they can "try" and do something about it (good luck), live with it (easy if you live with wilflife s
t all the time anyway) or do something yourself (again good luck). Theres very little a cat owner can do about it.MBBlat said:
hedgefinder said:
lol... the old foxes excuse as I predicted earlier...
What excuse - fox droppings look & smell remarkably like cat droppings but unlike cats they tend not to bury it.I have also yet to find a cat digging up an established lawn, mine has lots of little holes were either the fox or badger has been after the worms.
So good luck getting the owner of Mr Fox to clean up after it.
PS can anyone recommend some good fox repellent?
ETA It was generally the same cat who seemed to have designated my front garden as his/her personal toilet. I still see it around, and have resisted the temptation to flatten it despite a few opportunities.
Edited by oldcynic on Monday 27th April 21:51
hedgefinder said:
ok, so answer the question posted earlier then....
The rules are different because different species have different requirements. Do you have a bell on your dog to stop him killing birds? How would you feel about someone with an indoors cat saying you were disgusting to let your dog piss in the street and crap everywhere (do you disinfect after you pick up?) and should keep him indoors and train him to use a litter tray? You would say they were being a dick, because a dog needs to be walked.mobbsy30 said:
maybe, they just don't want cats in their garden. if they did then surely they would have bought a cat. What makes people think that their pets should be allowed in other peoples gardens.
Would you object if my dog came into your garden for a dump? I bet you would. Stop inflicting your pets on other people.
I object to birds that come and sWould you object if my dog came into your garden for a dump? I bet you would. Stop inflicting your pets on other people.
t on my car, and I object to people who feed the blighters. I have a cat, who you have to accept is just a wild animal. She might come into the house to supplement her diet and to find a warm place to sleep, but basically she is no better than the birds that s
t on my car. She only finds comfort, from climbing onto the dinning table and dive bombing our poor dog, who is st shared of her. She has taken to following us on our walks and dive bombing the dog from garden walls as we pass. You think she's a pet ? Well no. She's a vicious unforgiving wild beast, who will go where she f
king well likes. You should get a cat. Your Cat will s
t in your neighbours garden, and fight with the neighbour's cat (and dog) And you should get rubber gardening gloves. The cat usually buries the s
t, so gardening can be a bit unpleasant. Well not for me, as she sts next door. hedgefinder said:
MG CHRIS said:
Oh what a surprise a cat thread with people calling cat owners selfish wkers whatever next on ph. Cats are regarded as different to dogs by law both have different guidelines and laws etc.
We share our planet with loads of different animals and we all like different things. I don't really like my neigbhours bringing out a lawnmower at 8am on a sunday morning and he doesn't really like my loud mx5 when I leave the house but as grown ups we get on with life and don't act like children. Oh and why do cat haters always resort to name calling and not very nice language with regards to cats this post being case and point.
Now most cats don't like water so a water pistol while not causing harm to the cat will make a cat think twice and if the dog was more up to it would scare the cat away. My cat will run a mile when the dog opposite comes out.
so you obviously not being one of the selfish pricks I made reference to earlier go around and pick up your cats skers whatever next on ph. Cats are regarded as different to dogs by law both have different guidelines and laws etc. We share our planet with loads of different animals and we all like different things. I don't really like my neigbhours bringing out a lawnmower at 8am on a sunday morning and he doesn't really like my loud mx5 when I leave the house but as grown ups we get on with life and don't act like children. Oh and why do cat haters always resort to name calling and not very nice language with regards to cats this post being case and point.
Now most cats don't like water so a water pistol while not causing harm to the cat will make a cat think twice and if the dog was more up to it would scare the cat away. My cat will run a mile when the dog opposite comes out.
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