Cat dispute with neighbor

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FunkyNige

8,859 posts

274 months

Monday 27th April 2015
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I found the ultrasound cat repellants kept them out of my garden so maybe get your neighbour one of these? They seem to either work really well or not at all depending on the cat mind.

hedgefinder

3,418 posts

169 months

Monday 27th April 2015
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otolith said:
The rules are different because different species have different requirements. Do you have a bell on your dog to stop him killing birds? How would you feel about someone with an indoors cat saying you were disgusting to let your dog piss in the street and crap everywhere (do you disinfect after you pick up?) and should keep him indoors and train him to use a litter tray? You would say they were being a dick, because a dog needs to be walked.
so why not put a leash on a cat and walk it and pick up its st as it goes, or as you say keep it indoors, if not then simply dont keep them as pets.

MG CHRIS

9,077 posts

166 months

Monday 27th April 2015
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Also cats are still wild animals compared to dogs. Domestication of dogs have happened long time before cats so where as dogs have been breaded to be more domestic animals over a long time so are more trainable. Cats back 100 years ago where generally used to keep mice population etc down in farms and its only been In the last 50 or so years cats have been domesticated.

Cats unless specifically bread to be house cats still maintain there wild instincts and don't really need humans to live they have just found it easier to live with us as we give them food/house to live and treats. They can survive without us unlike most dogs.
I do have a cat and theres a few cats around us with an equal number of dogs too and ive never once had a complaint about my cat despite everyone around me knowing where my cat lives. Hes now coming up to 11 and spends a lot of the time inside specially in winter and when he does go for a crap its generally under my decking and hides it like most cats do.

You simply can not compare dogs to cats and that's why laws are different between the 2 animals there are bad owners on both sides bot what I do find is that generally from threads like this is that cat haters will use bad language to get there point across where as the people in the mid ground and cat owners will get there point across without the need to use said language.


Roo

11,503 posts

206 months

Monday 27th April 2015
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This used to be the nice part of Pistonheads.

It's slowly getting like everywhere else on here that I now avoid.

riosyd

611 posts

200 months

Monday 27th April 2015
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Roo said:
This used to be the nice part of Pistonheads.

It's slowly getting like everywhere else on here that I now avoid.
Unfortunately every thread about cats using other peoples gardens as toilets ends up like this...



otolith

55,899 posts

203 months

Monday 27th April 2015
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hedgefinder said:
so why not put a leash on a cat and walk it and pick up its st as it goes, or as you say keep it indoors, if not then simply dont keep them as pets.
Because they're not dogs. Not sure why you aren't getting this. It's as if the only domestic animal you've ever encountered is the dog and you can't wrap your mind round the idea that other animals are different.

Do you think people should walk their homing pigeons and pick up their st?


Edited by otolith on Monday 27th April 23:51

MG CHRIS

9,077 posts

166 months

Tuesday 28th April 2015
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riosyd said:
Roo said:
This used to be the nice part of Pistonheads.

It's slowly getting like everywhere else on here that I now avoid.
Unfortunately every thread about cats using other peoples gardens as toilets ends up like this...
Agreed it starts of good with sensible suggestions and one poster has to jump in and call cats and cat owners selfish pricks then another 4/5 posters jump in and well this happens. Then again why is anyone surprised this is pistonheads after all where one guy would argue that the world isn't round and wont be told otherwise.

Disastrous

10,072 posts

216 months

Tuesday 28th April 2015
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otolith said:
hedgefinder said:
so why not put a leash on a cat and walk it and pick up its st as it goes, or as you say keep it indoors, if not then simply dont keep them as pets.
Because they're not dogs. Not sure why you aren't getting this. It's as if the only domestic animal you've ever encountered is the dog and you can't wrap your mind round the idea that other animals are different.

Do you think people should walk their homing pigeons and pick up their st?


Edited by otolith on Monday 27th April 23:51
rofl So true.

Hedgefinder would be furious at my angel fish. I've designated a 'litter area' in the tank but the triangular fkers continue to bait me, floating about, stting wherever they please! Well, I've had enough and intend to sew a lead made of thread through their dorsal fins to keep them under control until they learn. They share that tank with all sorts of other fish who I'm sure don't want to swim in their st. You don't catch my dog stting in the fish tank so why should it be any different for them??

King Herald

23,501 posts

215 months

Tuesday 28th April 2015
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JustADay said:
......I think I know the answer to this but do we actually have a requirement to do this? I absolutely don't want to cause an argument, and I understand that a lot of people don't like cats in their garden, but I can't see what we can really do about it?
Our neighbours would get pretty annoyed if our dogs go on their garden to crap, thus our dogs are never let out of our back yard. But, the neighbours cats crap all over our garden, however that is considered 'okay'. Can you see where I'm going with this?

If dog owners are forced to control their pets, why can't cat owners? If you have to put up wire mesh, chicken wire etc, then you have to do it. People do it for birds, and they fly.

It is a bit like smoking years ago, when people used to light up in cafes, restaurants, buses etc, it was deemed acceptable, for some reason, but people eventually realised they shouldn't have to tolerate it. And things changed.

Nobody should have to tolerate someone else's pet crapping on their balcony. And for you to ask if you have any 'requirement' to sort it out, indicates you don't really care about it.

And yes, I know it has been done to death already in the thread, but doing some work in the front garden last week I discovered just how much cat poo was in there!!!!!! And guess how I discovered it!


Edited by King Herald on Tuesday 28th April 00:40

hedgefinder

3,418 posts

169 months

Tuesday 28th April 2015
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otolith said:
Because they're not dogs. Not sure why you aren't getting this. It's as if the only domestic animal you've ever encountered is the dog and you can't wrap your mind round the idea that other animals are different.

Do you think people should walk their homing pigeons and pick up their st?


Edited by otolith on Monday 27th April 23:51
yet another totally ridiculous comparison in another failed attempt to make it acceptable for cats to st anywhere without any responsibility of the owner.......
as stated if you cant control it then dont keep it.

otolith

55,899 posts

203 months

Tuesday 28th April 2015
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hedgefinder said:
yet another totally ridiculous comparison in another failed attempt to make it acceptable for cats to st anywhere without any responsibility of the owner.......
as stated if you cant control it then dont keep it.
That's your opinion of what is acceptable. It does not accord with British culture and law. Suggest you get over it, or move, either to somewhere nobody else lives or to somewhere with a different culture.

Prof Prolapse

16,160 posts

189 months

Tuesday 28th April 2015
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hedgefinder said:
yet another totally ridiculous comparison in another failed attempt to make it acceptable for cats to st anywhere without any responsibility of the owner.......
as stated if you cant control it then dont keep it.
I thought his point was fine.

Responsibility? It's not fully domesticated and untrained, the only one responsible for the animal defecating is the animal itself, and you'd be hard pressed to explain it's social responsibilities to it.

It's equally acceptable for horses to crap in the street, or, as per the above, pigeon's to crap everywhere. It's annoying, but there's no pragmatic solution, and your inconvenience is massively outweighed by the joy these animals bring to people's lives. So there's no moral or legal obligation for them to do anything contrary to your own personal opinions.

I think it's quite a sad reflection of your attitude towards animals and those that keep them that this bothers you so much. Perhaps you should look into getting one. It might cheer you up and if you're like me you'll find clearing up your own animals waste strangely less irritating.





Greendubber

13,129 posts

202 months

Tuesday 28th April 2015
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Disastrous said:
rofl So true.

Hedgefinder would be furious at my angel fish. I've designated a 'litter area' in the tank but the triangular fkers continue to bait me, floating about, stting wherever they please! Well, I've had enough and intend to sew a lead made of thread through their dorsal fins to keep them under control until they learn. They share that tank with all sorts of other fish who I'm sure don't want to swim in their st. You don't catch my dog stting in the fish tank so why should it be any different for them??
Irrelevant rubbish.

toohangry

416 posts

108 months

Tuesday 28th April 2015
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Disastrous said:
rofl So true.

Hedgefinder would be furious at my angel fish. I've designated a 'litter area' in the tank but the triangular fkers continue to bait me, floating about, stting wherever they please! Well, I've had enough and intend to sew a lead made of thread through their dorsal fins to keep them under control until they learn. They share that tank with all sorts of other fish who I'm sure don't want to swim in their st. You don't catch my dog stting in the fish tank so why should it be any different for them??
rofl

Disastrous

10,072 posts

216 months

Tuesday 28th April 2015
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Greendubber said:
Disastrous said:
rofl So true.

Hedgefinder would be furious at my angel fish. I've designated a 'litter area' in the tank but the triangular fkers continue to bait me, floating about, stting wherever they please! Well, I've had enough and intend to sew a lead made of thread through their dorsal fins to keep them under control until they learn. They share that tank with all sorts of other fish who I'm sure don't want to swim in their st. You don't catch my dog stting in the fish tank so why should it be any different for them??
Irrelevant rubbish.
Your face is irrelevant rubbish.

SilverSixer

8,202 posts

150 months

Tuesday 28th April 2015
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rb5er said:
Theres very little a cat owner can do about it.
Apart from the following. Not. fking. Having. One.

Kateg28

1,352 posts

162 months

Tuesday 28th April 2015
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FunkyNige said:
I found the ultrasound cat repellants kept them out of my garden so maybe get your neighbour one of these? They seem to either work really well or not at all depending on the cat mind.
I bought two of these and one of the cats walks past them completely oblivious. It does annoy my teenage son who reckons he can hear it but I consider that a bonus.

Next door have two cats and there is a third one around but I do not know who it belongs to. At least one of these (they are all ginger with white parts and difficult to tell apart casually) craps on my small lawn as we keep seeing it.

It is not a fox, I am not that stupid
It does not bury it but leaves it all for us.

We have a small garden and spent a small fortune last year on landscaping it, no cat is going to stop me using it so I have to stop it. I do various things including motion controlled sprinkler which is rubbish, sonar repellents, spray cat repellent and running shouting and waving my arms at them. I will be buying lots of pepper tonight.

We cannot have a dog due to working and cannot have our own cat as stepson is allergic.

I did go round to my neighbours and say that I hated what they were doing and I would be taking steps to deter them and they may come home wet but I would never intentionally hurt a cat. They neighbours were defensive at first saying I didn't know it was their cats to which I pointed out they wouldn't get wet then. They were quite happy with my proposed solutions and I think they were relieved I wasn't going to hurt the cats which they first thought.

Greendubber

13,129 posts

202 months

Tuesday 28th April 2015
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Disastrous said:
Your face is irrelevant rubbish.
Wow.

Disastrous

10,072 posts

216 months

Tuesday 28th April 2015
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Greendubber said:
Disastrous said:
Your face is irrelevant rubbish.
Wow.
Oh don't get your ovaries in twist. If you can't take it, don't wade in calling a post made clearly in jest irrelevant rubbish.

Prof Prolapse

16,160 posts

189 months

Tuesday 28th April 2015
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I laughed.