Danish bunny killer petition growing....

[Jasandjules]

plasticpig said:

Plenty of rabbits aren't though. They are snared, shot, ferreted and even hunted using birds of prey.

Doesn't mean that snaring, ferreting or using birds of prey is acceptable or humane either.

[AlexC1981]

It makes no difference if the animal was reared for food or as a pet, at least not to the animal. This is the hypocrisy the presenter wanted to highlight and it's worked much better than he expected. We will never know if his motives were truly to remind us all that a life must be taken before we can eat its body or if it was just sensationalist journalism. I suspect it was a bit of both.

I expect this little chap has had a bolt smashed in the side of his skull and his throat slit by now But who cares as it's just a food animal?



There are loads of lambs in the field near where I work. Every day I see them running around, jumping and playing. They are getting quite big now...

It will be a massacre that will make one bludgeoned rabbit pale into insignificance. Still, no one will care as long as it was done humanly. They won't get a petition.

[nickwilcock]

AlexC1981 said:

It will be a massacre that will make one bludgeoned rabbit pale into insignificance. Still, no one will care as long as it was done humanely.

Those lambs will be slaughtered by competent, licensed workers and not by an incompetent, attention-seeking radio presenter live on air.

Still, it seems that 28551 other people at least share my views and have signed the petition.

[Steve H]

nickwilcock said:

A petition calling for the sacking of the cruel Danish p.o.s who bludgeoned a defenceless 9 week old baby bunny .

All animals going to slaughter are defenceless, whether they are a cow, pig or cute little "bunny".

nickwilcock said:

At 9 weeks, a bunny will only just have been weaned and would have been wanting to bond with anyone who it met after having left its mother. What was particularly awful was to see that vile person Juhl petting it and stroking it to make it feel reassured,

Awful compared to herding animals into an unfamiliar, noisy, mechanised environment in packs when they are just used to open fields causing them to be terrified and disoriented prior to their killing?

Unless you are a veggie that's your lunch I'm talking about.

nickwilcock said:

Worse still, he took the tiny little corpse home, skinned it and fed it to his young kids.

Worse then just killing an animal to make a point and then throwing the body away?

nickwilcock said:

There is rather a difference between a 'baby pig' bred purely for the purpose of food and a 'fluffy wuffy lickle bunny' bred to become a domestic pet.

No, there really isn't.



I agree with the posters suggesting that this was poorly judged and badly done but I suspect we are just kidding ourselves if we believe there is an entirely humane way of killing animals on an industrial scale.

[nickwilcock]

Apart from the 'meat is murder' brigade, society in general has accepted the need for meat intended for human consumption to be produced humanely.

Which doesn't include a couple of Danish radio presenters beating a baby domestic rabbit to death live on air. But if you can't see the difference, then so be it...

[Swervin_Mervin]

Some of you maybe need to visit Specsavers I've highlighted the core bit of their reasoning as quoted above:

Fittster said:

We think it's important that people consider how the animals we eat are treated. Denmark has a huge pig production industry where tons of baby pigs are killed and often thrown out as waste. There are loads of animal welfare issues in the agriculture industry but people don't really give a st about it unless it's a cute little animal, like a puppy or a rabbit.

That suggests to me that they're not talking about pigs that are executed according to slaughter regs, but the inhumane killing of young pigs that are then disposed of as waste. Along with other inhumane practices in the industry.

That's not to say I agree with what they did at all.

[Simpo Two]

It's a false parallel. It's like gassing someone to show how bad Hitler was. It proves nothing, and merely gains publicity. Therefore, it's a publicity stunt, and to do it you'd have to be slightly mad. Therefore it's a publicity stunt by a loony, possibly a fringe psychopath who's always wanted to do it but just needed a 'reason'. Next.

[bexVN]

There are lots of organisations out there working to increase awareness of certain farming practices, hidden cruelties etc (even in what we think of as 'cruelty free' free range) none of them need to demonstrate their points using the methods of this Dj. People's emotions can be evoked in other ways, maybe he should be promoting these first!

There is hypocrisy but that is life, we are not going to stop that, some animals will be pets, some will be reared for meat, his way of making the point was ridiculous.

[Swervin_Mervin]

I'm also not sure I see the point of sacking the guy that did it. The station has inferred that it was them that wanted to run the stunt and they picked the person they thought would be best suited to carrying it out.

[Simpo Two]

Then they should all be beaten to death with a bicycle pump. An hypocrisy-free riposte

[AlexC1981]

Simpo Two said:

It's a false parallel. It's like gassing someone to show how bad Hitler was. It proves nothing, and merely gains publicity. Therefore, it's a publicity stunt, and to do it you'd have to be slightly mad. Therefore it's a publicity stunt by a loony, possibly a fringe psychopath who's always wanted to do it but just needed a 'reason'. Next.

He did eat the rabbit afterwards. I suppose it would have been ok if he bought a packaged chicken from the butcher/supermarket for dinner instead? You know, those ones that get shackled by the feet and hung upside down on a moving line and dipped in an electrified bath. The chickens to really pity are the ones that wake up before the next stage is over...

[AlexC1981]

nickwilcock said:

Those lambs will be slaughtered by competent, licensed workers and not by an incompetent, attention-seeking radio presenter live on air.

Still, it seems that 28551 other people at least share my views and have signed the petition.

What about the thousands that regain conciousness while they are hanging upside down, bleeding to death? Why don't they get a petition?

The bunny got off lucky compared to how food animals are slaughtered.

[dudleybloke]

Depends on which bike pump he used
My Joe Blow sport track pump would decapitate a cow if you tried hard enough.

[nickwilcock]

dudleybloke said:

Depends on which bike pump he used
My Joe Blow sport track pump would decapitate a cow if you tried hard enough.

Quite irrelevant. Beating a defenceless baby rabbit to death live on air for whatever sick reason is entirely unacceptable. Particularly after buying it from a pet shop, showing it some affection to relieve the stress it would have felt at being away from its familiar environment, then clumsily bludgeoning it three time with a bicycle pump before wringing its neck. Quite sickening.

Over 32000 people have now called for cruel Juhl and Jorgen Ramskov to be sacked - and quite rightly so too.

[Steve H]

nickwilcock said:

a defenceless baby rabbit

Once again with the emotive language .

Would it have been better if the rabbit wasn't a baby, or if it was a less cute animal than a rabbit?

nickwilcock said:

for whatever sick reason

Trying to highlight the treatment that animals receive which is widely ignored because isn't done right under our noses; the sick, sick bds .

nickwilcock said:

Particularly after buying it from a pet shop, showing it some affection to relieve the stress it would have felt at being away from its familiar environment,

The first part is irrelevant, the second part showed a distinct lack of cruelty and was a lot more care and reassurance than most slaughtered animals get.




Once again I'll say that I think what they did was poorly judged and badly done but you do seem to be very deliberately ignoring the idea that it may have been no more cruel than a lot of what happens regularly to the animals that end up on our tables.

[bexVN]

I have to agree with Steve H. My life has been dedicated to animals and always will be in some form or another but at the same time I am a realist and am well aware of the appalling conditions many farmed animals suffer.

However I maintain that this DJ's approach was wrong and I will never agree otherwise.

[AlexC1981]

Something I only found out as a result of this thread is that chickens of the type favoured for their eggs are not considered ideal for meat production. The end result is that almost all male chicks are killed either by gassing or chucked alive into a macerator to be ground to bits.

There is a gif floating around on the internet which I will not post or even link to because it is so horrific that shows about 20 or so live chicks sitting in the macerator bucket which then gets switched on.

Enjoy your scrambled eggs this morning?



People are strange. They would go mental if a kitten was thrown in the grinder, but don't give a st about the chicks. I suppose cats are lucky they don't lay delicious eggs.

[KFC]

nickwilcock said:

At 9 weeks, a bunny will only just have been weaned and would have been wanting to bond with anyone who it met after having left its mother. What was particularly awful was to see that vile person Juhl petting it and stroking it to make it feel reassured, yet a few minutes later he bludgeoned it to death in such a clumsy manner, no doubt causing it suffering and pain.

I would guess that a pet shop rabbit that has been properly looked after then had a botched attempt to kill it humanely got the better deal than the factory farmed food rabbit that had a st life for a few months then was put down 'humanely'. Given it was eaten afterwards, I hope everyone signing that petition is a vegan.

[highflyer]

I don't understand why tons of baby pigs are killed and thrown out as waste, why are they killing them so young and just throwing them out and not bringing them on for food at a later stage of life ?

[The Moose]

nickwilcock said:

AlexC1981 said:

It will be a massacre that will make one bludgeoned rabbit pale into insignificance. Still, no one will care as long as it was done humanely.

Those lambs will be slaughtered by competent, licensed workers and not by an incompetent, attention-seeking radio presenter live on air.

Still, it seems that 28551 other people at least share my views and have signed the petition.

I suggest you go and actually visit a slaughter house - when they're actually slaughtering animals.

Then report back about how humanely you feel those animals are slaughtered.

Having been, if I were an animal, I know which route I'd rather be dispatched...