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Can someone explain why it is worse to farm a lion than a pig, sheep or cow?
We do not need to farm pigs, sheep or cows for meat. We do it because we like eating them. The "it's OK to kill something if you eat it" argument doesn't work because we don't need to eat meat in the first place.
So the pig is bred and killed to fulfill a human desire. The same goes for the lion. Is there a moral difference? I can't see how one can condemn one without condemning the other.
So sign the petition if you're a vegetarian who opposes meat production, but if you're not and you're feeling inclined to sign the petition anyway you might want to examine your motivation. (Yes, this sounds monumentally patronising, but we should always question our own gut instincts and prejudices. I find hunting distasteful and part of me would like to find a good reason to oppose it on moral grounds, but I've thought about it and I can't given that I'm fairly comfortable with stuff like free range pig farming.)
We do not need to farm pigs, sheep or cows for meat. We do it because we like eating them. The "it's OK to kill something if you eat it" argument doesn't work because we don't need to eat meat in the first place.
So the pig is bred and killed to fulfill a human desire. The same goes for the lion. Is there a moral difference? I can't see how one can condemn one without condemning the other.
So sign the petition if you're a vegetarian who opposes meat production, but if you're not and you're feeling inclined to sign the petition anyway you might want to examine your motivation. (Yes, this sounds monumentally patronising, but we should always question our own gut instincts and prejudices. I find hunting distasteful and part of me would like to find a good reason to oppose it on moral grounds, but I've thought about it and I can't given that I'm fairly comfortable with stuff like free range pig farming.)
)ali_kat said:
I'm confused
What good will removing his Knighthood do?
Also for me, unsavoury enough but likely nothing to do with the reason he got his knight hood nor what sort of person he is. What good will removing his Knighthood do?
Parents living in South Africa introduced me to a few people loosely tied in with this industry. It was tightly controlled with animals specifically selected, taking into account age, injuries etc with utmost care taken to minimise any suffering from the animal. It also brought large amounts of foreign income in and had beneficial knock on effects - breeding programmes for them, far more interest taken to maintain & expand their natural environment etc etc
As I said, unsavoury but little different from the various forms of legal hunting elsewhere in the world, just this animal happens to be a Disney favourite & cute to look at so everyone jumps on the emotional bandwagon.
Edited by Andehh on Wednesday 29th July 12:47
ATG said:
Can someone explain why it is worse to farm a lion than a pig, sheep or cow?
We do not need to farm pigs, sheep or cows for meat. We do it because we like eating them. The "it's OK to kill something if you eat it" argument doesn't work because we don't need to eat meat in the first place.
So the pig is bred and killed to fulfill a human desire. The same goes for the lion. Is there a moral difference? I can't see how one can condemn one without condemning the other.
So sign the petition if you're a vegetarian who opposes meat production, but if you're not and you're feeling inclined to sign the petition anyway you might want to examine your motivation. (Yes, this sounds monumentally patronising, but we should always question our own gut instincts and prejudices. I find hunting distasteful and part of me would like to find a good reason to oppose it on moral grounds, but I've thought about it and I can't given that I'm fairly comfortable with stuff like free range pig farming.)
Because when a pig/cow/sheep is killed they aren't just killed for their head/skin and left to rot.We do not need to farm pigs, sheep or cows for meat. We do it because we like eating them. The "it's OK to kill something if you eat it" argument doesn't work because we don't need to eat meat in the first place.
So the pig is bred and killed to fulfill a human desire. The same goes for the lion. Is there a moral difference? I can't see how one can condemn one without condemning the other.
So sign the petition if you're a vegetarian who opposes meat production, but if you're not and you're feeling inclined to sign the petition anyway you might want to examine your motivation. (Yes, this sounds monumentally patronising, but we should always question our own gut instincts and prejudices. I find hunting distasteful and part of me would like to find a good reason to oppose it on moral grounds, but I've thought about it and I can't given that I'm fairly comfortable with stuff like free range pig farming.)
Humans are meat eaters - our bodies are designed for it. Our teeth have incisors for tearing meat, molars for grinding it, just like other meat eating mammals.
If nature intended humans to exist on vegetables surely our digestive system would be similar to that of the cow, with four stomachs and the ability to ferment cellulose in order to break down plant material?
For more than two million years we were primarily meat eaters. Our genes were developed before the agricultural revolution. Only in the last 10,000 years did the human diet shift, with the cultivation of grains and legumes, but in that 10,000 years we’ve got smaller in stature and brain size.
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