Looking for a fearless cat.......

Looking for a fearless cat.......

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Mr E

21,616 posts

259 months

Tuesday 11th August 2015
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ali_kat said:
Mr E said:
I recall trying to rehome a cat via the rspca a few years ago. They seemed to do absolutely everything in their power to make it difficult. It wasn't the cost, it was the inspections etc that made it a no-go.
yes They wouldn't even talk to me as I lived in a flat so they would be house cats!

CPL were fabulous biggrin They still need a donation mind, nothing is free in this world wink
From memory, the RSPCA's main problem was that we both had a job, and therefore "the cats would be alone all day".
My response along the lines of "a) they will have a cat flap and b) they're bloody cats for heavens sake" fell on deaf ears.

Most ironically, they turned up for a cancelled inspection about 2 months later and noted two cats asleep upside down on the sofa having their tummies tickled.

ali_kat

31,988 posts

221 months

Tuesday 11th August 2015
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RSPCA are bloody useless.

They only seem to protect those lucky enough to be in their care already...

crispyshark

1,262 posts

145 months

Tuesday 11th August 2015
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As much as this has turned into a lovely thread about rehoming cats, it doesn’t really solve the OP’s problem.

OP, quite frankly the person that told you to ask the local farmers if their cats have had any litters is the way to go. Get 2, I’m sure it won’t cost you £50 and those are cats that will need homing in your immediate area. You want cats that have got ‘farm yard’ in their inherent psyche. Basically, pop down the local pub and ask about.

If you want the problem solved sooner, get in some chaps with terriers and ‘rat’ the barn….should bring the situation under control whilst you wait for the cats to mature.

Lastly, invest in a decent .22 air rifle and do your bit too (or get the kids to). As I’m sure you are now fully aware, living in the country brings its own challenges and you sometimes have to approach them from every front.

Munter

31,319 posts

241 months

Tuesday 11th August 2015
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OP.

If you can get to Wolverhampton
And if you can catch him
You can call on the services of...Moustachio cat.


He's a stray who none of the local cat places have space for. Next door feeds intermittently. And nobody has come forward for about 6 months....so he needs a proper home before winter.

Our cat is scared of him so we can't take him in. But possibly a good sign of aggression.

ali_kat

31,988 posts

221 months

Tuesday 11th August 2015
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crispyshark said:
As much as this has turned into a lovely thread about rehoming cats, it doesn’t really solve the OP’s problem.

OP, quite frankly the person that told you to ask the local farmers if their cats have had any litters is the way to go. Get 2, I’m sure it won’t cost you £50 and those are cats that will need homing in your immediate area. You want cats that have got ‘farm yard’ in their inherent psyche. Basically, pop down the local pub and ask about.

If you want the problem solved sooner, get in some chaps with terriers and ‘rat’ the barn….should bring the situation under control whilst you wait for the cats to mature.

Lastly, invest in a decent .22 air rifle and do your bit too (or get the kids to). As I’m sure you are now fully aware, living in the country brings its own challenges and you sometimes have to approach them from every front.
The cat(s) will still need to be neutered, treated for worms & fleas monthly and annual injections.

If he's not prepared to pay a £50 donation and have the first round of injections and neutering already done for him there is NO way he'll be willing to pay the actual Vets costs for this (neuter @ £70, first injections @ £60 to cover Leukaemia, Flu and Enteritis, annual booster @ £40)

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 11th August 2015
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ali_kat said:
How they invest in the cat

The rescue
Food
Bedding
Board whilst waiting to be homed
Vet check
De worm
De flea

And lastly
Neutering



Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 10th August 23:21
Ok, what am I missing. The chart says two litters a year with 2.8 kittens per litter surviving. I make that a max of six kittens at the end of year 1. Not 12.

ali_kat

31,988 posts

221 months

Tuesday 11th August 2015
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Greg66 said:
Ok, what am I missing. The chart says two litters a year with 2.8 kittens per litter surviving. I make that a max of six kittens at the end of year 1. Not 12.
It's for the male & the female.

So the top image should be 2 really

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 11th August 2015
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ali_kat said:
Greg66 said:
Ok, what am I missing. The chart says two litters a year with 2.8 kittens per litter surviving. I make that a max of six kittens at the end of year 1. Not 12.
It's for the male & the female.

So the top image should be 2 really
Ah.

Or the bottom number should be 1,035,000 or so.

Thing about charts like that is that they are self-defeating. There are obviously a few unneutered cats roaming around and have been for many years. Yet we are not buried under hundreds of millions of cats.

Not that I would mind that, being a cat person myself.

elanfan

5,520 posts

227 months

Tuesday 11th August 2015
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Out of interest how do you make semi feral cat stay. Surely they'll wander off if they feel like it.

Do you need to stop them getting out for a few weeks?

bearman68

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4,652 posts

132 months

Tuesday 11th August 2015
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OK folks, the situation has moved on.

Phoned everyone on Google locally this afternoon. Ended up talking to someone in the Hereford area from the Cat Protection League.
Me: I'd like some cats please, not too old, not too young, and good for ratting.
Her: How many would you like?
Me 2 or 3 ideally.
Her: Yes we do those, we catch them from the local farms, by invitation, neuter them, inject them, and check them for the obvious health issues. We will then deliver them to you.
Me: (Predictably) How much.
Her: We suggest a donation, but don't charge as such. We rehouse about 500 farm cats a year, and are glad for them to go to a place where there are not hated and abused.

Now we are talking. I don't get a choice of cat, it's whatever turns up, but this is a great result.

So, I was going to donate £50 for the 3..... smile

If anyone is interested, you rehome them by keeping them shut up in a suitable location (Cat proof with natural light), and feed them. After a while it occurs to them this is where they live apparently, and you can let them out. To hunt well, they need to be reasonably well fed,and they will "kill for fun rather than need" quote, and in doing so kill more. This surprised me a little, so I clearly need to budget a little more in cat food.... (Howls of protest coming my way I feel)

ali_kat

31,988 posts

221 months

Tuesday 11th August 2015
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Great news smile

Please note the costs I mentioned earlier today wrt to worming &!annual injections for them (please keep this up, I know you see them as 'disposable' but the illnesses protected by it are not nice ways to suffer & will save you Vet fees in the long run)

As for food J&J will be along to preach raw food and they are very good on that subject smile don't bother with wet food, just ensure they have good quality dry food - again, the better the quality the less it costs in the long run

bearman68

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4,652 posts

132 months

Tuesday 11th August 2015
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Hi Ali.

Do you have a recommended bulk dry food?

CPL sell them, but only in 400g, Apparently 60g a day needed. (See I'm doing my homework) smile

TheAllSeeingPie

865 posts

135 months

Tuesday 11th August 2015
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We buy tescos own brand dry cat food and it works out cheap, like under £1 a week to feed two cats. You'll need a big howl to put it in, and some fresh water in another bowl is also good. Vets4Pets do lifetime injections for £99 a cat, which works out a saving if the cat lives longer than 2 once yearly injections. Definitely better than having the cats get sick from the rats and the associated vets bills.

ali_kat

31,988 posts

221 months

Tuesday 11th August 2015
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bearman68 said:
Hi Ali.

Do you have a recommended bulk dry food?

CPL sell them, but only in 400g, Apparently 60g a day needed. (See I'm doing my homework) smile
My food is for House cats, as one is blind, but it's ProPlan & gets delivered by Amazon regularly, works out for 2 @ £10/month

ikarl

3,730 posts

199 months

Tuesday 11th August 2015
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OP, please keep the thread running if you do go ahead with this.

I know it's not a hobby as such, but it would interesting to see how you get on with the cats, and how many they catch etc

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rxtx

6,016 posts

210 months

Tuesday 11th August 2015
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If you only give them dry food ensure there's clean water available as well. Also make sure they have teeth, our rescues came with one tooth each and couldn't deal with dry.

bearman68

Original Poster:

4,652 posts

132 months

Tuesday 11th August 2015
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rxtx said:
If you only give them dry food ensure there's clean water available as well. Also make sure they have teeth, our rescues came with one tooth each and couldn't deal with dry.
rofl good point - I forgot to ask the CPL for teeth. Can't imagine a toothless moggy being much of a ratter.

I'll keep the post updated - surprised at the number of responses TBH. Actually looking forward to getting them now, and the kids are quite keen as well.
I did mention it to the Lab, but she just wagged her tail, and licked my hand. Ho Hum

Juggsy1

73 posts

109 months

Tuesday 11th August 2015
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crispyshark said:
Lastly, invest in a decent .22 air rifle and do your bit too (or get the kids to). As I’m sure you are now fully aware, living in the country brings its own challenges and you sometimes have to approach them from every front.
+1. Very satisfying shooting rats. Having done a lot of electrical maintainance on farms, always had my .22 in the back of the van just in case.

TheAllSeeingPie

865 posts

135 months

Wednesday 12th August 2015
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I've got a 11 year old toothless muggy that catches quite a few birds. I assume it's just for fun as he eats tons of biscuits, although not sure how but I do watch him crunching away at them without teeth. Don't forget they use their claws to hunt, not the teeth.

DoubleSix

11,714 posts

176 months

Wednesday 12th August 2015
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ikarl said:
OP, please keep the thread running if you do go ahead with this.

I know it's not a hobby as such, but it would interesting to see how you get on with the cats, and how many they catch etc

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I predict the odd dead bird, a mouse or two and some very amused rats...

smile