Advice on how to deal with issue on dog walk.
Discussion
Dogs are supposed to be under control on a lead or otherwise. I rarely see a Dog off the lead that takes a blind bit of notice of their owner.
If you can't control your Dog by command keep it on a lead. when I used to walk my BullMastiff and two GSD on their leads I always gave owners the option of getting their Dog under control or allowing my Dogs the same freedom as theirs it seemed to do the trick. People who cannot control their Dogs are just selfish idiots.
If you can't control your Dog by command keep it on a lead. when I used to walk my BullMastiff and two GSD on their leads I always gave owners the option of getting their Dog under control or allowing my Dogs the same freedom as theirs it seemed to do the trick. People who cannot control their Dogs are just selfish idiots.
Interestingly saw this dog being walked by the owner today. From a distance admittedly and too far to even contemplate a word but two things immediately apparent.
1. He has complete control of that dog on the lead. It's not the same dog as when walked by this woman.
2. He actively appears to be taking note of others and making effort to avoid contact keeping clear separation by adjusting route.
So it's a case as usual of it being the humans at fault.
1. He has complete control of that dog on the lead. It's not the same dog as when walked by this woman.
2. He actively appears to be taking note of others and making effort to avoid contact keeping clear separation by adjusting route.
So it's a case as usual of it being the humans at fault.
FiF said:
Interestingly saw this dog being walked by the owner today. From a distance admittedly and too far to even contemplate a word but two things immediately apparent.
1. He has complete control of that dog on the lead. It's not the same dog as when walked by this woman.
2. He actively appears to be taking note of others and making effort to avoid contact keeping clear separation by adjusting route.
So it's a case as usual of it being the humans at fault.
maybe he isnt aware of the problem when he isnt walking it if you get the chance you should let him know the problems you had you might just be doing him a huge favour.1. He has complete control of that dog on the lead. It's not the same dog as when walked by this woman.
2. He actively appears to be taking note of others and making effort to avoid contact keeping clear separation by adjusting route.
So it's a case as usual of it being the humans at fault.
johnxjsc1985 said:
FiF said:
Interestingly saw this dog being walked by the owner today. From a distance admittedly and too far to even contemplate a word but two things immediately apparent.
1. He has complete control of that dog on the lead. It's not the same dog as when walked by this woman.
2. He actively appears to be taking note of others and making effort to avoid contact keeping clear separation by adjusting route.
So it's a case as usual of it being the humans at fault.
maybe he isnt aware of the problem when he isnt walking it if you get the chance you should let him know the problems you had you might just be doing him a huge favour.1. He has complete control of that dog on the lead. It's not the same dog as when walked by this woman.
2. He actively appears to be taking note of others and making effort to avoid contact keeping clear separation by adjusting route.
So it's a case as usual of it being the humans at fault.
FiF said:
Interestingly saw this dog being walked by the owner today. From a distance admittedly and too far to even contemplate a word but two things immediately apparent.
Suspect she is a walker and has insufficient control over the dog. In that case I'd zip on over and ask him to ensure that dog is kept under control on walks and point out if it attacks your dog you will take action.You get some really stupid dog owners,i for one have my Husky cross off the lead 9p percent of the time,and have never had any bother with her,or my last threes dogs for that matter!
I 'hate' the idiots that come up to me and tell me to put my dog on a lead,bollocms!i hate people who get all jumped up and nervous when my dog runs across to see there dogs,and i hate people who just hate any dog being near their dogs,they're just so stupid.
If you ever watch the dog whisperer on tv the first two things he usually says and does are a)the owners are nervous and they're transferring it to the dog(60% of owners i meet)and he then puts this 'nightmare dog' in beside dozens of his own dogs!!!!nnnooooo!!!!i hear you all say,instant death!!!!
Dogs by nature are curious and pack animals,i can say with 100% certainty giving my dog free reign 80% of the time has made her a more sociable stable dog.
I just wish all the jumpy jennifers would just calm to hell down,understand that a)their dog isn't going to die and get ripped to shreads,the owner coming towards them doesn't want 'their' dog or this other dog to die,if a dog barks at all it doesn't mean it wants to kill,and if a dog 'mouths'another dog it is not a bite!!!!I repeat,it is not a bite!!!
You have no idea the amount of arguments i have with people about this,oh your dog bit our dog blah,blad,blah.it's just to silly,i just wish they would listen to themselves,do they ever watch pups playing??Ears get bitten,eyes get bitten,necks get bitten,they are just learning their tolerances and are not going through to the skin!!!
This really gets on my wick,i tell them oh,your dobs been bitten??Show me,show me the bite marks,they can't,they say again,no,my dogs been bitten,yet again,show the pierce marks and blood.I love putting people like this down,they need to get a grip on reality and learn about how dogs interact with each other!!
I then tell them right,if you are so convinced about this you're shouting at me your dog has been bitten,call the police!!Guess what,nothing happens,i do eventually get through to them,eventually.
If you've had dog for a while you get a true instinct for whose dogs are going to be trouble,and i'll put her on the lead,i've never been wrong yet,please,everybody just chill to hell out,YOU ARE MAKING YOUR DOGS NERVOUS!!!!
I 'hate' the idiots that come up to me and tell me to put my dog on a lead,bollocms!i hate people who get all jumped up and nervous when my dog runs across to see there dogs,and i hate people who just hate any dog being near their dogs,they're just so stupid.
If you ever watch the dog whisperer on tv the first two things he usually says and does are a)the owners are nervous and they're transferring it to the dog(60% of owners i meet)and he then puts this 'nightmare dog' in beside dozens of his own dogs!!!!nnnooooo!!!!i hear you all say,instant death!!!!
Dogs by nature are curious and pack animals,i can say with 100% certainty giving my dog free reign 80% of the time has made her a more sociable stable dog.
I just wish all the jumpy jennifers would just calm to hell down,understand that a)their dog isn't going to die and get ripped to shreads,the owner coming towards them doesn't want 'their' dog or this other dog to die,if a dog barks at all it doesn't mean it wants to kill,and if a dog 'mouths'another dog it is not a bite!!!!I repeat,it is not a bite!!!
You have no idea the amount of arguments i have with people about this,oh your dog bit our dog blah,blad,blah.it's just to silly,i just wish they would listen to themselves,do they ever watch pups playing??Ears get bitten,eyes get bitten,necks get bitten,they are just learning their tolerances and are not going through to the skin!!!
This really gets on my wick,i tell them oh,your dobs been bitten??Show me,show me the bite marks,they can't,they say again,no,my dogs been bitten,yet again,show the pierce marks and blood.I love putting people like this down,they need to get a grip on reality and learn about how dogs interact with each other!!
I then tell them right,if you are so convinced about this you're shouting at me your dog has been bitten,call the police!!Guess what,nothing happens,i do eventually get through to them,eventually.
If you've had dog for a while you get a true instinct for whose dogs are going to be trouble,and i'll put her on the lead,i've never been wrong yet,please,everybody just chill to hell out,YOU ARE MAKING YOUR DOGS NERVOUS!!!!
robbocop33 said:
You get some really stupid dog owners,i for one have my Husky cross off the lead 9p percent of the time,and have never had any bother with her,or my last threes dogs for that matter!
I 'hate' the idiots that come up to me and tell me to put my dog on a lead,bollocms!i hate people who get all jumped up and nervous when my dog runs across to see there dogs,and i hate people who just hate any dog being near their dogs,they're just so stupid.
If you ever watch the dog whisperer on tv the first two things he usually says and does are a)the owners are nervous and they're transferring it to the dog(60% of owners i meet)and he then puts this 'nightmare dog' in beside dozens of his own dogs!!!!nnnooooo!!!!i hear you all say,instant death!!!!
Dogs by nature are curious and pack animals,i can say with 100% certainty giving my dog free reign 80% of the time has made her a more sociable stable dog.
I just wish all the jumpy jennifers would just calm to hell down,understand that a)their dog isn't going to die and get ripped to shreads,the owner coming towards them doesn't want 'their' dog or this other dog to die,if a dog barks at all it doesn't mean it wants to kill,and if a dog 'mouths'another dog it is not a bite!!!!I repeat,it is not a bite!!!
You have no idea the amount of arguments i have with people about this,oh your dog bit our dog blah,blad,blah.it's just to silly,i just wish they would listen to themselves,do they ever watch pups playing??Ears get bitten,eyes get bitten,necks get bitten,they are just learning their tolerances and are not going through to the skin!!!
This really gets on my wick,i tell them oh,your dobs been bitten??Show me,show me the bite marks,they can't,they say again,no,my dogs been bitten,yet again,show the pierce marks and blood.I love putting people like this down,they need to get a grip on reality and learn about how dogs interact with each other!!
I then tell them right,if you are so convinced about this you're shouting at me your dog has been bitten,call the police!!Guess what,nothing happens,i do eventually get through to them,eventually.
If you've had dog for a while you get a true instinct for whose dogs are going to be trouble,and i'll put her on the lead,i've never been wrong yet,please,everybody just chill to hell out,YOU ARE MAKING YOUR DOGS NERVOUS!!!!
tell me is this some sort of wind up.I 'hate' the idiots that come up to me and tell me to put my dog on a lead,bollocms!i hate people who get all jumped up and nervous when my dog runs across to see there dogs,and i hate people who just hate any dog being near their dogs,they're just so stupid.
If you ever watch the dog whisperer on tv the first two things he usually says and does are a)the owners are nervous and they're transferring it to the dog(60% of owners i meet)and he then puts this 'nightmare dog' in beside dozens of his own dogs!!!!nnnooooo!!!!i hear you all say,instant death!!!!
Dogs by nature are curious and pack animals,i can say with 100% certainty giving my dog free reign 80% of the time has made her a more sociable stable dog.
I just wish all the jumpy jennifers would just calm to hell down,understand that a)their dog isn't going to die and get ripped to shreads,the owner coming towards them doesn't want 'their' dog or this other dog to die,if a dog barks at all it doesn't mean it wants to kill,and if a dog 'mouths'another dog it is not a bite!!!!I repeat,it is not a bite!!!
You have no idea the amount of arguments i have with people about this,oh your dog bit our dog blah,blad,blah.it's just to silly,i just wish they would listen to themselves,do they ever watch pups playing??Ears get bitten,eyes get bitten,necks get bitten,they are just learning their tolerances and are not going through to the skin!!!
This really gets on my wick,i tell them oh,your dobs been bitten??Show me,show me the bite marks,they can't,they say again,no,my dogs been bitten,yet again,show the pierce marks and blood.I love putting people like this down,they need to get a grip on reality and learn about how dogs interact with each other!!
I then tell them right,if you are so convinced about this you're shouting at me your dog has been bitten,call the police!!Guess what,nothing happens,i do eventually get through to them,eventually.
If you've had dog for a while you get a true instinct for whose dogs are going to be trouble,and i'll put her on the lead,i've never been wrong yet,please,everybody just chill to hell out,YOU ARE MAKING YOUR DOGS NERVOUS!!!!
^^ Yes it has to be, otherwise it's some of the most illegible and inaccurate crap I have read on this forum in a long time tbh.
For a start anyone who thinks the 'dog Whisperer' should be listened to does not know what they are talking about!
Having had a husky lunge at my dog when my dog was trying to take the wide berth to avoid conflict (the husky's actions almost caused Jimmy to go into some kind of seizure) I would say that if this posters dog behaved like he is describing around my dog I would give him an ear bashing and a half and I am pretty laid back regarding rough play in dogs!
For a start anyone who thinks the 'dog Whisperer' should be listened to does not know what they are talking about!
Having had a husky lunge at my dog when my dog was trying to take the wide berth to avoid conflict (the husky's actions almost caused Jimmy to go into some kind of seizure) I would say that if this posters dog behaved like he is describing around my dog I would give him an ear bashing and a half and I am pretty laid back regarding rough play in dogs!
Edited by bexVN on Saturday 29th August 21:42
robbocop33 said:
I just wish all the jumpy jennifers would just calm to hell down,understand that a)their dog isn't going to die and get ripped to shreads,the owner coming towards them doesn't want 'their' dog or this other dog to die,if a dog barks at all it doesn't mean it wants to kill,and if a dog 'mouths'another dog it is not a bite!!!!I repeat,it is not a bite!!!
You have no idea the amount of arguments i have with people about this,oh your dog bit our dog blah,blad,blah.it's just to silly,i just wish they would listen to themselves,do they ever watch pups playing??E
I would not normally do this, but there are a few points I feel I have to make.You have no idea the amount of arguments i have with people about this,oh your dog bit our dog blah,blad,blah.it's just to silly,i just wish they would listen to themselves,do they ever watch pups playing??E
1. If your dog keeps "nipping" other dogs, and he is offlead, you may find one afternoon a police officer turns up and takes him away to be PTS. Do you want that to happen?
2. If he keeps nipping other dogs, one day he might come up to one of my dogs. That would be unlikely to end well for him I am afraid.
Neither of these approaches is good. Also bear in mind your dog is a reasonable size which means many people will automatically think he is the aggressor, regardless of the context. If you can not recall him (and given his breed I rather suspect it is unlikely) perfectly, just be fairly careful around other dog owners, some dogs are on lead for a reason.
bexVN said:
^^ Yes it has to be, otherwise it's some of the most illegible and inaccurate crap I have read on this forum in a long time tbh.
For a start anyone who thinks the 'dog Whisperer' should be listened to does not know what they are talking about!
Having had a husky lunge at my dog when my dog was trying to take the wide berth to avoid conflict (the husky's actions almost caused Jimmy to go into some kind of seizure) I would say that if this posters dog behaved like he is describing around my dog I would give him an ear bashing and a half and I am pretty laid back regarding rough play in dogs!
Hear, hear!For a start anyone who thinks the 'dog Whisperer' should be listened to does not know what they are talking about!
Having had a husky lunge at my dog when my dog was trying to take the wide berth to avoid conflict (the husky's actions almost caused Jimmy to go into some kind of seizure) I would say that if this posters dog behaved like he is describing around my dog I would give him an ear bashing and a half and I am pretty laid back regarding rough play in dogs!
Edited by bexVN on Saturday 29th August 21:42
As soon as I saw 'dog whisperer' I guessed the rest of the post was going to be tripe, and I was correct.
robbocop33, I feel sorry for your dog - she needs a better owner.
Jasandjules said:
I would not normally do this, but there are a few points I feel I have to make.
1. If your dog keeps "nipping" other dogs, and he is offlead, you may find one afternoon a police officer turns up and takes him away to be PTS. Do you want that to happen?
2. If he keeps nipping other dogs, one day he might come up to one of my dogs. That would be unlikely to end well for him I am afraid.
Neither of these approaches is good. Also bear in mind your dog is a reasonable size which means many people will automatically think he is the aggressor, regardless of the context. If you can not recall him (and given his breed I rather suspect it is unlikely) perfectly, just be fairly careful around other dog owners, some dogs are on lead for a reason.
I was out with my 11 month old gsd pup when a pyrinean Mt Dog who was at least 50 yards from its owner came over not in a playful way his head was high and his eyes wide open he wanted to check us out.1. If your dog keeps "nipping" other dogs, and he is offlead, you may find one afternoon a police officer turns up and takes him away to be PTS. Do you want that to happen?
2. If he keeps nipping other dogs, one day he might come up to one of my dogs. That would be unlikely to end well for him I am afraid.
Neither of these approaches is good. Also bear in mind your dog is a reasonable size which means many people will automatically think he is the aggressor, regardless of the context. If you can not recall him (and given his breed I rather suspect it is unlikely) perfectly, just be fairly careful around other dog owners, some dogs are on lead for a reason.
Unfortunately for him I take no crap and with my Pup behind me he got a swift few kicks and scarpered off . now all this time his owner was shouting he is friendly which he obviously wasnt, my only sadness was the owner wouldnt come over so I could kick him even harder.
The law is simple your Dog must be under control end of story.
robbocop33 said:
You get some really stupid dog owners,i for one have my Husky cross off the lead 9p percent of the time,and have never had any bother with her,or my last threes dogs for that matter!
I 'hate' the idiots that come up to me and tell me to put my dog on a lead,bollocms!i hate people who get all jumped up and nervous when my dog runs across to see there dogs,and i hate people who just hate any dog being near their dogs,they're just so stupid.
If you ever watch the dog whisperer on tv the first two things he usually says and does are a)the owners are nervous and they're transferring it to the dog(60% of owners i meet)and he then puts this 'nightmare dog' in beside dozens of his own dogs!!!!nnnooooo!!!!i hear you all say,instant death!!!!
Dogs by nature are curious and pack animals,i can say with 100% certainty giving my dog free reign 80% of the time has made her a more sociable stable dog.
I just wish all the jumpy jennifers would just calm to hell down,understand that a)their dog isn't going to die and get ripped to shreads,the owner coming towards them doesn't want 'their' dog or this other dog to die,if a dog barks at all it doesn't mean it wants to kill,and if a dog 'mouths'another dog it is not a bite!!!!I repeat,it is not a bite!!!
You have no idea the amount of arguments i have with people about this,oh your dog bit our dog blah,blad,blah.it's just to silly,i just wish they would listen to themselves,do they ever watch pups playing??Ears get bitten,eyes get bitten,necks get bitten,they are just learning their tolerances and are not going through to the skin!!!
This really gets on my wick,i tell them oh,your dobs been bitten??Show me,show me the bite marks,they can't,they say again,no,my dogs been bitten,yet again,show the pierce marks and blood.I love putting people like this down,they need to get a grip on reality and learn about how dogs interact with each other!!
I then tell them right,if you are so convinced about this you're shouting at me your dog has been bitten,call the police!!Guess what,nothing happens,i do eventually get through to them,eventually.
If you've had dog for a while you get a true instinct for whose dogs are going to be trouble,and i'll put her on the lead,i've never been wrong yet,please,everybody just chill to hell out,YOU ARE MAKING YOUR DOGS NERVOUS!!!!
Firstly, that makes for some very difficult reading. It's not hard to use a spell checker and add in some paragraphs. I 'hate' the idiots that come up to me and tell me to put my dog on a lead,bollocms!i hate people who get all jumped up and nervous when my dog runs across to see there dogs,and i hate people who just hate any dog being near their dogs,they're just so stupid.
If you ever watch the dog whisperer on tv the first two things he usually says and does are a)the owners are nervous and they're transferring it to the dog(60% of owners i meet)and he then puts this 'nightmare dog' in beside dozens of his own dogs!!!!nnnooooo!!!!i hear you all say,instant death!!!!
Dogs by nature are curious and pack animals,i can say with 100% certainty giving my dog free reign 80% of the time has made her a more sociable stable dog.
I just wish all the jumpy jennifers would just calm to hell down,understand that a)their dog isn't going to die and get ripped to shreads,the owner coming towards them doesn't want 'their' dog or this other dog to die,if a dog barks at all it doesn't mean it wants to kill,and if a dog 'mouths'another dog it is not a bite!!!!I repeat,it is not a bite!!!
You have no idea the amount of arguments i have with people about this,oh your dog bit our dog blah,blad,blah.it's just to silly,i just wish they would listen to themselves,do they ever watch pups playing??Ears get bitten,eyes get bitten,necks get bitten,they are just learning their tolerances and are not going through to the skin!!!
This really gets on my wick,i tell them oh,your dobs been bitten??Show me,show me the bite marks,they can't,they say again,no,my dogs been bitten,yet again,show the pierce marks and blood.I love putting people like this down,they need to get a grip on reality and learn about how dogs interact with each other!!
I then tell them right,if you are so convinced about this you're shouting at me your dog has been bitten,call the police!!Guess what,nothing happens,i do eventually get through to them,eventually.
If you've had dog for a while you get a true instinct for whose dogs are going to be trouble,and i'll put her on the lead,i've never been wrong yet,please,everybody just chill to hell out,YOU ARE MAKING YOUR DOGS NERVOUS!!!!
Secondly, most of what you posted was complete b
ks. You'll find that there's normally a very good reason that people decide to keep their dog on a lead. It may be rubbish at recall or it may be reactive and perceive your bouncy dog as a threat. Perhaps you would find yourself having less arguments with people if you used a little common sense and didn't let your dog bound over towards a dog that's being walked on the lead. Believe it or not, not all dogs get along and no amount of play fighting (or actual fighting) will stop that.
As a responsible dog owner, my dog doesn't get let off the lead unless he's in an enclosed area with dogs he knows and that we both trust. If all that you've posted is true then one day your dog will find itself in an awful lot of bother if it wanders up to a dog that's really not interested in playing and is on a lead.
bexVN said:
^^ Yes it has to be, otherwise it's some of the most illegible and inaccurate crap I have read on this forum in a long time tbh.
For a start anyone who thinks the 'dog Whisperer' should be listened to does not know what they are talking about!
Having had a husky lunge at my dog when my dog was trying to take the wide berth to avoid conflict (the husky's actions almost caused Jimmy to go into some kind of seizure) I would say that if this posters dog behaved like he is describing around my dog I would give him an ear bashing and a half and I am pretty laid back regarding rough play in dogs!
I think this just explains what i was saying,seizures,worrying,panicking,boxing owners ears,do you listen to yourself??Yet you say you're laid back??Sounds like you have a wonderful relaxing time with your dog!My dog just goes up to dogs and shows no aggresion whatsoever,she is a very passive dog.We've let her off the lead to let her play with every Husky we've ever met with not a problem.Husky's have a very particular way of playing together which is great to watch(i have many 'horror'videos to prove this),or ofcourse i could have stayed at one end of the beach,and the other owner at the other end.For a start anyone who thinks the 'dog Whisperer' should be listened to does not know what they are talking about!
Having had a husky lunge at my dog when my dog was trying to take the wide berth to avoid conflict (the husky's actions almost caused Jimmy to go into some kind of seizure) I would say that if this posters dog behaved like he is describing around my dog I would give him an ear bashing and a half and I am pretty laid back regarding rough play in dogs!
Edited by bexVN on Saturday 29th August 21:42
Heres Bowie carrying out a full scale savage attack,sorry,living a full,fulfilled dogs life with a new dog she had met for the first time.
And that dog whisperer's doing very well for himself!!
And here she is tearing our cat to shreds.
Edited by robbocop33 on Monday 31st August 00:43
Edited by robbocop33 on Monday 31st August 00:52
Well maybe I should have made it more clear, my dog almost had a seizure induced due to a medical condition, I had never witnessed it before.
I actually did not react to the dog lunging (and it was an aggressive lunge not a playful one, I can tell the difference) at mine Until I saw what it caused Jimmy to do.
Jimmy played with all dogs of all shapes and sizes, he had his chest ripped open by an over zealous (not aggressive) doberman and never retaliated.(and neither did I as I realised it was an accident)
He was attacked by an initially friendly boxer and could not get away because he was on a lead (I had to push my sons pushchair out of the way as the dog was jumping on it) that boxer bit me on the arm. It was supposed to be on a lead aswell in this area. tt of an owner walked away saying sorry after it took 5 mins to get his dog back. Left me and my dog bleeding, still no retaliation from my dog.
He is dead now, taken away far too soon by the degenerative disease that caused his seizure, not caused by me!!!
Our current dog Bryn is just as good with other dogs, he is not quite so good at walking away from dogs on leads as Jimmy was but he is getting better due to me being observant to him.
Having dealt with many hundreds of dogs over the years it makes me laugh that you can assess me as your idea of a typical stress dog owner. I am very confident that I can read and assess dogs body language and how they are playing far better than you could.
You have reworded your description of how your dog plays, saying she is passive but honestly that still doesn't give you the right to allow her free rein over other people's dogs. I have no problem with dogs running over to mine as I know mine will be fine(however I do not allow the reverse until I've ok'd it with the owner, manners costs nothing afterall!) but if I saw inappropriate behaviour from the other dog and that owner tried to tell me otherwise you bet I would say something.
And the Dog Whisperer is doing well because people are gullible, He may get results but they are not always what they seem.
I actually did not react to the dog lunging (and it was an aggressive lunge not a playful one, I can tell the difference) at mine Until I saw what it caused Jimmy to do.
Jimmy played with all dogs of all shapes and sizes, he had his chest ripped open by an over zealous (not aggressive) doberman and never retaliated.(and neither did I as I realised it was an accident)
He was attacked by an initially friendly boxer and could not get away because he was on a lead (I had to push my sons pushchair out of the way as the dog was jumping on it) that boxer bit me on the arm. It was supposed to be on a lead aswell in this area. t
t of an owner walked away saying sorry after it took 5 mins to get his dog back. Left me and my dog bleeding, still no retaliation from my dog.He is dead now, taken away far too soon by the degenerative disease that caused his seizure, not caused by me!!!
Our current dog Bryn is just as good with other dogs, he is not quite so good at walking away from dogs on leads as Jimmy was but he is getting better due to me being observant to him.
Having dealt with many hundreds of dogs over the years it makes me laugh that you can assess me as your idea of a typical stress dog owner. I am very confident that I can read and assess dogs body language and how they are playing far better than you could.
You have reworded your description of how your dog plays, saying she is passive but honestly that still doesn't give you the right to allow her free rein over other people's dogs. I have no problem with dogs running over to mine as I know mine will be fine(however I do not allow the reverse until I've ok'd it with the owner, manners costs nothing afterall!) but if I saw inappropriate behaviour from the other dog and that owner tried to tell me otherwise you bet I would say something.
And the Dog Whisperer is doing well because people are gullible, He may get results but they are not always what they seem.
Edited by bexVN on Monday 31st August 01:20
Edited by bexVN on Monday 31st August 01:24
Edited by bexVN on Monday 31st August 01:36
bexVN said:
Well maybe I should have made it more clear, my dog almost had a seizure induced due to a medical condition, I had never witnessed it before.
I actually did not react to the dog lunging (and it was an aggressive lunge not a playful one, I can tell the difference) at mine Until I saw what it caused Jimmy to do.
Jimmy played with all dogs of all shapes and sizes, he had his chest ripped open by an over zealous (not aggressive) doberman and never retaliated.(and neither did I as I realised it was an accident)
He was attacked by an initially friendly boxer and could not get away because he was on a lead (I had to push my sons pushchair out of the way as the dog was jumping on it) that boxer bit me on the arm. It was supposed to be on a lead aswell in this area. tt of an owner walked away saying sorry after it took 5 mins to get his dog back. Left me and my dog bleeding, still no retaliation from my dog.
He is dead now, taken away far too soon by the degenerative disease that caused his seizure, not caused by me!!!
Our current dog Bryn is just as good with other dogs, he is not quite so good at walking away from dogs on leads as Jimmy was but he is getting better due to me being observant to him.
Having dealt with many hundreds of dogs over the years it makes me laugh that you can assess me as your idea of a typical stress dog owner. I am very confident that I can read and assess dogs body language and how they are playing far better than you could.
You have reworded your description of how your dog plays, saying she is passive but honestly that still doesn't give you the right to allow her free rein over other people's dogs. I have no problem with dogs running over to mine as I know mine will be fine(however I do not allow the reverse until I've ok'd it with the owner, manners costs nothing afterall!) but if I saw inappropriate behaviour from the other dog and that owner tried to tell me otherwise you bet I would say something.
And the Dog Whisperer is doing well because people are gullible, He may get results but they are not always what they seem.
I didn't reword any desciption of my dog,she 'is' a passive dog.Its generally all the little dogs you have to watch,usually terrier types that have gone for our dog,and in your expert opinion 'really' gone for her.I actually did not react to the dog lunging (and it was an aggressive lunge not a playful one, I can tell the difference) at mine Until I saw what it caused Jimmy to do.
Jimmy played with all dogs of all shapes and sizes, he had his chest ripped open by an over zealous (not aggressive) doberman and never retaliated.(and neither did I as I realised it was an accident)
He was attacked by an initially friendly boxer and could not get away because he was on a lead (I had to push my sons pushchair out of the way as the dog was jumping on it) that boxer bit me on the arm. It was supposed to be on a lead aswell in this area. t
t of an owner walked away saying sorry after it took 5 mins to get his dog back. Left me and my dog bleeding, still no retaliation from my dog.He is dead now, taken away far too soon by the degenerative disease that caused his seizure, not caused by me!!!
Our current dog Bryn is just as good with other dogs, he is not quite so good at walking away from dogs on leads as Jimmy was but he is getting better due to me being observant to him.
Having dealt with many hundreds of dogs over the years it makes me laugh that you can assess me as your idea of a typical stress dog owner. I am very confident that I can read and assess dogs body language and how they are playing far better than you could.
You have reworded your description of how your dog plays, saying she is passive but honestly that still doesn't give you the right to allow her free rein over other people's dogs. I have no problem with dogs running over to mine as I know mine will be fine(however I do not allow the reverse until I've ok'd it with the owner, manners costs nothing afterall!) but if I saw inappropriate behaviour from the other dog and that owner tried to tell me otherwise you bet I would say something.
And the Dog Whisperer is doing well because people are gullible, He may get results but they are not always what they seem.
Edited by bexVN on Monday 31st August 01:20
Edited by bexVN on Monday 31st August 01:24
Edited by bexVN on Monday 31st August 01:36
I just let it go,and so does my dog,its when people start over reacting to things and completely misread dogs actions.We've had people saying she's aggressive because she's barked?Huskies tend to be very vocal when playing,meeting other dogs.Dogs mainly communicate by vocalising things or mouthing,pawing.They have to touch,speak in 'some' way to other dogs?,if people don't get that they shouldn't have dogs!!
I've even had a woman shouting at me as my dog put a paw on her dog?Honestly it's unbelievable!
I think in an extreme case like a dog having seizures i would instantly explain this to other owners on walking up to them about the situation,or pick really quiet places to walk.
Read my post, he had never done it before, so had no clue as that yhis would happen, we were on a peaceful walk, the owner had no control of his dog, there were 3 huskies all on leads and all a bit on edge; as a result my dog made no interaction and actively wide berthed all three, the one furthest away dragged his owner across the others and made a bite at my dogs back this caused a shock reaction to my dog hence the reaction. My dog did absolutely nothing wrong. They were not in control of their dogs, they should not have been walking their dogs in the area as they obviously knew the temperaments.
Though even if I knew how I could have explained my dog has seizures to an owner who is at distance and let their dog run over is beyond me. After that experience I had to basically stop walking him sadly, I just couldn't trust owners not to stop their dogs running over to him.
Though even if I knew how I could have explained my dog has seizures to an owner who is at distance and let their dog run over is beyond me. After that experience I had to basically stop walking him sadly, I just couldn't trust owners not to stop their dogs running over to him.
Edited by bexVN on Monday 31st August 10:52
bexVN said:
Well maybe I should have made it more clear, my dog almost had a seizure induced due to a medical condition, I had never witnessed it before.
I actually did not react to the dog lunging (and it was an aggressive lunge not a playful one, I can tell the difference) at mine Until I saw what it caused Jimmy to do.
Jimmy played with all dogs of all shapes and sizes, he had his chest ripped open by an over zealous (not aggressive) doberman and never retaliated.(and neither did I as I realised it was an accident)
He was attacked by an initially friendly boxer and could not get away because he was on a lead (I had to push my sons pushchair out of the way as the dog was jumping on it) that boxer bit me on the arm. It was supposed to be on a lead aswell in this area. tt of an owner walked away saying sorry after it took 5 mins to get his dog back. Left me and my dog bleeding, still no retaliation from my dog.
He is dead now, taken away far too soon by the degenerative disease that caused his seizure, not caused by me!!!
Our current dog Bryn is just as good with other dogs, he is not quite so good at walking away from dogs on leads as Jimmy was but he is getting better due to me being observant to him.
Having dealt with many hundreds of dogs over the years it makes me laugh that you can assess me as your idea of a typical stress dog owner. I am very confident that I can read and assess dogs body language and how they are playing far better than you could.
You have reworded your description of how your dog plays, saying she is passive but honestly that still doesn't give you the right to allow her free rein over other people's dogs. I have no problem with dogs running over to mine as I know mine will be fine(however I do not allow the reverse until I've ok'd it with the owner, manners costs nothing afterall!) but if I saw inappropriate behaviour from the other dog and that owner tried to tell me otherwise you bet I would say something.
And the Dog Whisperer is doing well because people are gullible, He may get results but they are not always what they seem.
I didn't reword any desciption of my dog,she 'is' a passive dog.Its generally all the little dogs you have to watch,usually terrier types that have gone for our dog,and in your expert opinion 'really' gone for her.I actually did not react to the dog lunging (and it was an aggressive lunge not a playful one, I can tell the difference) at mine Until I saw what it caused Jimmy to do.
Jimmy played with all dogs of all shapes and sizes, he had his chest ripped open by an over zealous (not aggressive) doberman and never retaliated.(and neither did I as I realised it was an accident)
He was attacked by an initially friendly boxer and could not get away because he was on a lead (I had to push my sons pushchair out of the way as the dog was jumping on it) that boxer bit me on the arm. It was supposed to be on a lead aswell in this area. t
t of an owner walked away saying sorry after it took 5 mins to get his dog back. Left me and my dog bleeding, still no retaliation from my dog.He is dead now, taken away far too soon by the degenerative disease that caused his seizure, not caused by me!!!
Our current dog Bryn is just as good with other dogs, he is not quite so good at walking away from dogs on leads as Jimmy was but he is getting better due to me being observant to him.
Having dealt with many hundreds of dogs over the years it makes me laugh that you can assess me as your idea of a typical stress dog owner. I am very confident that I can read and assess dogs body language and how they are playing far better than you could.
You have reworded your description of how your dog plays, saying she is passive but honestly that still doesn't give you the right to allow her free rein over other people's dogs. I have no problem with dogs running over to mine as I know mine will be fine(however I do not allow the reverse until I've ok'd it with the owner, manners costs nothing afterall!) but if I saw inappropriate behaviour from the other dog and that owner tried to tell me otherwise you bet I would say something.
And the Dog Whisperer is doing well because people are gullible, He may get results but they are not always what they seem.
Edited by bexVN on Monday 31st August 01:20
Edited by bexVN on Monday 31st August 01:24
Edited by bexVN on Monday 31st August 01:36
I just let it go,and so does my dog,its when people start over reacting to things and completely misread dogs actions.We've had people saying she's aggressive because she's barked?Huskies tend to be very vocal when playing,meeting other dogs.Dogs mainly communicate by vocalising things or mouthing,pawing.They have to touch,speak in 'some' way to other dogs?,if people don't get that they shouldn't have dogs!!
I've even had a woman shouting at me as my dog put a paw on her dog?Honestly it's unbelievable!
I think in an extreme case like a dog having seizures i would instantly explain this to other owners on walking up to them about the situation,or pick really quiet places to walk.
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