First dog incoming.. What do we need?

First dog incoming.. What do we need?

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ehonda

1,483 posts

205 months

Thursday 19th November 2015
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Google suggests £2500 for a pup. Please tell me that you're not paying anywhere near that for a cross breed dog, without checking out the parents from what sounds very much like a puppy farm.
Looking at their website I got fed up counting the number of litters they have available in November/December.
There's a high likelihood you'll get a fine dog with no health problems, but personally I think it's morally wrong to give a puppy farm anywhere near that sort of money for a mongrel. Sorry if that sounds harsh.

eta - I think it would be morally wrong to give a puppy farm any amount of money - bad phrasing on my part. Glad to hear you're reconsidering OP.

Edited by ehonda on Thursday 19th November 10:48

bexVN

14,682 posts

211 months

Thursday 19th November 2015
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License allows them to have upto 100 bhes over 6 months old on the premises.

Confirms it for me. They may protest it but this is Puppy farm, they hide it well with all the talk on the website. But it can be nothing other.

3-4 litters per bh and potentially upto 100 birches, I am sure you can do the maths.

moorx

3,513 posts

114 months

Thursday 19th November 2015
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£2500?

You're having a giraffe! Actually, I would want a giraffe for that money!

Madness, utter madness....

No wonder there's such a trade in these ridiculous crosses when they fetch that sort of money. Poor, poor dogs is all I can say frown

justin220

Original Poster:

5,338 posts

204 months

Thursday 19th November 2015
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I do thanks, I am extremely glad I posted this topic as it has opened my eyes to it all.


moorx

3,513 posts

114 months

Thursday 19th November 2015
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bexVN said:
License allows them to have upto 100 bhes over 6 months old on the premises.

Confirms it for me. They may protest it but this is Puppy farm, they hide it well with all the talk on the website. But it can be nothing other.

3-4 litters per bh and potentially upto 100 birches, I am sure you can do the maths.
rage

Walk away, OP, and be glad that you have only lost a deposit. There are plenty of other lovely pups, or maybe you will reconsider your views on rescue dogs? wink

Dand E Lion

404 posts

106 months

Thursday 19th November 2015
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moorx said:
bexVN said:
License allows them to have upto 100 bhes over 6 months old on the premises.

Confirms it for me. They may protest it but this is Puppy farm, they hide it well with all the talk on the website. But it can be nothing other.

3-4 litters per bh and potentially upto 100 birches, I am sure you can do the maths.
rage

Walk away, OP, and be glad that you have only lost a deposit. There are plenty of other lovely pups, or maybe you will reconsider your views on rescue dogs? wink
Absolutely. And before you think of buying any sort of puppy, do you both work full-time? There's a reason many rescues won't rehome to full-time workers, unless they have provision in place for the pup not to be left alone all day. That's because it is not good for them. Unscrupulous breeders and puppy farmers, on the other hand, will take anyone's money, whatever your circumstances.

Please think it through.

bexVN

14,682 posts

211 months

Thursday 19th November 2015
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I am gutted for you, taking on a pup where ever it is from should be an exciting time, not having to worry about scams etc but, walk away, take a breather and with all this info you have learned (been bombarded with!!) look again, the right one will show.

Ps, go for a whippet, much easier first time dog breed to have (of course I will be a bit bias on that wink )

Don't rule out rescue though, you were worried about temperament yet Husky Pom mix is no easy temperament to handle! Rescues can be so rewarding smile

Johnnytheboy

24,498 posts

186 months

Thursday 19th November 2015
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Mail order Irish breeder: run a mile.

justin220

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5,338 posts

204 months

Thursday 19th November 2015
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Again, thanks everyone for the input. The cost isn't as high as the figure quoted above, but its not a million miles off.

I guess I have jumped into this a bit quickly. My mistake!

I have a re-think smile

moorx

3,513 posts

114 months

Thursday 19th November 2015
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thumbup

Dand E Lion

404 posts

106 months

Thursday 19th November 2015
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Great news thumbup after all, acquiring a puppy means spending 12-15 years with it, so it is worthwhile taking some time to get to know where it has come from, what its parents are like, meeting similar breeds and above all, never buying any animal over the internet, sight unseen.

It's hard to imagine anyone doing that with a car, especially a model you've never driven, and being told you should keep driving it for the next decade, so I don't understand why people ever do it with animals confused

Spiffing

1,855 posts

210 months

Thursday 19th November 2015
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Great news, sorry the majority of the posts have been negative, but scammers are out there. As said they take fake bhes to act as the Mum when dropping the pup off. I once was looking at a more unusual breed, a Large Munsterlander, but the breeders put me off the breed.

They wanted deposits before I saw the puppy and although I had pick of the litter, if I chose one and somebody who showed dogs at Crufts wanted it they would get priority over me right up to collection frown

It's an exciting time, but do research and meet the pup in it's home before committing.

Also a Pomsky is new to me as well!

bexVN

14,682 posts

211 months

Thursday 19th November 2015
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^^^negative in a positive way smile.

ehonda

1,483 posts

205 months

Thursday 19th November 2015
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There's plenty of info out there about finding a puppy, e.g.

http://www.apdt.co.uk/dog-owners/choosing-a-puppy

On a side note my dogs love their crates, they trot in there at bed time and are never in a rush to get out in the morning. They never go in there as punishment and always get a treat when they go in. I think they're indispensable.

mids

1,505 posts

258 months

Thursday 19th November 2015
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justin220 said:
I'll have a re-think smile
Nice one !

pidsy

7,989 posts

157 months

Thursday 19th November 2015
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ehonda said:
There's plenty of info out there about finding a puppy, e.g.

http://www.apdt.co.uk/dog-owners/choosing-a-puppy

On a side note my dogs love their crates, they trot in there at bed time and are never in a rush to get out in the morning. They never go in there as punishment and always get a treat when they go in. I think they're indispensable.
i fully agree - Lou has had a crate since she was 10 weeks old (36" size) and she loves it. shes almost 2 now and she takes herself off to "bed" happily. as mentioned, she never goes in there as punishment - i took the door off it months ago and fitted a length of worktop to the top of it so its a firm part of her room now.

bakerstreet

4,763 posts

165 months

Thursday 19th November 2015
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£2500 for a cross breed?!?! Thats British Bulldog money and I always thought they were some of the most expensive dogs around.

Hopefully the OP will walk away and find something that he can at least go and see in England.

Travelling shouldn't be discounted. I think we traveled several hundred miles around the south of England trying to find the right hound smile

ehonda

1,483 posts

205 months

Thursday 19th November 2015
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bakerstreet said:
Travelling shouldn't be discounted. I think we traveled several hundred miles around the south of England trying to find the right hound smile
Shouldn't you have just gone straight to Baskerville Hall?

bexVN

14,682 posts

211 months

Thursday 19th November 2015
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ehonda said:
bakerstreet said:
Travelling shouldn't be discounted. I think we traveled several hundred miles around the south of England trying to find the right hound smile
Shouldn't you have just gone straight to Baskerville Hall?
The travelling isn't really tge issue here, it is the fact that the pup was going to be delivered to a pre arrange site. The OP wasn't going to where the pup was bred.

ehonda

1,483 posts

205 months

Friday 20th November 2015
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bexVN said:
ehonda said:
bakerstreet said:
Travelling shouldn't be discounted. I think we traveled several hundred miles around the south of England trying to find the right hound smile
Shouldn't you have just gone straight to Baskerville Hall?
The travelling isn't really tge issue here, it is the fact that the pup was going to be delivered to a pre arrange site. The OP wasn't going to where the pup was bred.
I think you may need a delivery from a parrot farm.