Distraught puppy next door - what to do?
Discussion
iphonedyou said:
moustachebandit said:
I simply don't understand people who get a dog when they work full time. Its the typical I want one, so I will have one and forget the consequences, forgetting that a dog is a living animal that thrives on social situations, not being locked up for hours a day.
We'll be getting one soon, and both work full time. I'll be home every lunchtime to say hello and let her out. And needless to say she'll have all the interaction she can handle before and after work, and all weekend long.Don't really see working full time as an issue.
ETA: doggy daycare looks like it would be fun once a week for her, too.
. A laid back older dog not always so much.Cupramax said:
Leaving a young puppy all day is unacceptable .
RSPCA.
Who, even if you are lucky enough to get a human on the other end of the phone, which won't be easy, will do absolutely nothing about the puppy unless there is a donation and/or publicity in it for them.RSPCA.
I have tried to alert the RSPCA to a few issues in recent years and the response has varied from a very irritable "it's a wild animal, why the hell are you bothering us with it?" to "can't you try a local farmer?" in response to me trying to get help with/for a very skittish foal abandoned and running loose (by those lovely colourful multicultural society-enriching travelling folk) close to a d/c A road.
I don't have much faith in them any more.
But in all seriousness it has worked twice for me.Your local dog warden might be worth a try (look on council website).
Others may not agree, but I have had good experiences with the RSPCA, so I still think it's worth reporting.
Their website states that:
The RSPCA believes that the basic welfare of all animals must take into account the 'Five Welfare Needs'. These needs are:
- somewhere suitable to live
- a proper diet, including fresh water
- the ability to express normal behaviour
- for any need to be housed with, or apart from, other animals
- protection from, and treatment of, illness and injury.
For me, it is the third which is in question here - I do not believe that a puppy (or any age of dog for that matter) should be left this length of time on its own. It's becoming more common these days, but it doesn't make it right.
Others may not agree, but I have had good experiences with the RSPCA, so I still think it's worth reporting.
Their website states that:
The RSPCA believes that the basic welfare of all animals must take into account the 'Five Welfare Needs'. These needs are:
- somewhere suitable to live
- a proper diet, including fresh water
- the ability to express normal behaviour
- for any need to be housed with, or apart from, other animals
- protection from, and treatment of, illness and injury.
For me, it is the third which is in question here - I do not believe that a puppy (or any age of dog for that matter) should be left this length of time on its own. It's becoming more common these days, but it doesn't make it right.
I didn't do anything in the end, decided to give it another day or two since it was Monday and the thing would have had its owners there all weekend and probably felt more abandoned as a result.
Today has been much better. A bit of crying for half an hour a couple of times, but otherwise silent.
I still think it is f
king cruel to get a dog and then imprison it all day long but that isn't going to change no matter what I do (and judging by this thread it is far from unusual) so if the crying stops I guess that'll be that.
I'll see how it goes.
Do feel bloody sorry for it though...
Today has been much better. A bit of crying for half an hour a couple of times, but otherwise silent.
I still think it is f
king cruel to get a dog and then imprison it all day long but that isn't going to change no matter what I do (and judging by this thread it is far from unusual) so if the crying stops I guess that'll be that. I'll see how it goes.
Do feel bloody sorry for it though...
Ari said:
I've recorded the noise it makes (not from the perspective of volume, but to demonstrate how distraught it is). I think I'm going to go round there when they come home, play it to them and tell them that this isn't happening any more.
Makes you want to force them to listen to the howling for 4 straight hours so it sinks in !iphonedyou said:
moustachebandit said:
I simply don't understand people who get a dog when they work full time. Its the typical I want one, so I will have one and forget the consequences, forgetting that a dog is a living animal that thrives on social situations, not being locked up for hours a day.
We'll be getting one soon, and both work full time. I'll be home every lunchtime to say hello and let her out. And needless to say she'll have all the interaction she can handle before and after work, and all weekend long.Don't really see working full time as an issue.
ETA: doggy daycare looks like it would be fun once a week for her, too.
BluePurpleRed said:
Ari said:
I've recorded the noise it makes (not from the perspective of volume, but to demonstrate how distraught it is). I think I'm going to go round there when they come home, play it to them and tell them that this isn't happening any more.
Makes you want to force them to listen to the howling for 4 straight hours so it sinks in !I just hope the new owners don't resort to putting a shock collar on to "train" their dog to stop barking.
Whenever I've seen one of those things, I ask the owner if they have one for themselves too or if they've tried it on their own necks.
My dog trainer, a guy called Nando Brown is an amazing trainer and interestingly enough, it's one of the first videos on his YouTube channel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTSfdnyBuas
They should be illegal.
Whenever I've seen one of those things, I ask the owner if they have one for themselves too or if they've tried it on their own necks.
My dog trainer, a guy called Nando Brown is an amazing trainer and interestingly enough, it's one of the first videos on his YouTube channel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTSfdnyBuas
They should be illegal.
beanbag said:
I just hope the new owners don't resort to putting a shock collar on to "train" their dog to stop barking.
Whenever I've seen one of those things, I ask the owner if they have one for themselves too or if they've tried it on their own necks.
My dog trainer, a guy called Nando Brown is an amazing trainer and interestingly enough, it's one of the first videos on his YouTube channel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTSfdnyBuas
They should be illegal.
They are in Wales Whenever I've seen one of those things, I ask the owner if they have one for themselves too or if they've tried it on their own necks.
My dog trainer, a guy called Nando Brown is an amazing trainer and interestingly enough, it's one of the first videos on his YouTube channel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTSfdnyBuas
They should be illegal.
Quick update on this one. Poor bloody thing was howling and whimpering and crying all morning today - as bad as it's ever been. Decided enough was enough. Recorded it on my phone, went round there tonight and asked them to listen to it. She held it to her ear for about five seconds and handed it back. Told them it was cruel and inhumane (I was pretty steamed up by this point after five hours of the thing - and I went out, it probably carried on!)
Usual crap 'well what do you expect, what can we do about it we both work.?' To which I said 'don't get a dog in the first place if you're not able to look after it'. Didn't go down well.
He then claimed they'd taken it to the vet and the vet said it was normal and fine. I asked which vet, I'd ask him to let me know it was okay - didn't want to tell me that, to which I said 'no, because it's not true is it?'
I told them either they deal with it, by one of them staying home or putting it into doggy daycare, or I would.
At which point I was invited to leave!
I am bloody fuming about it though, I cannot abide animal cruelty.
Guess the next step is the RSPCA.
fking annoying, hate falling out with people but enough is enough.
Usual crap 'well what do you expect, what can we do about it we both work.?' To which I said 'don't get a dog in the first place if you're not able to look after it'. Didn't go down well.
He then claimed they'd taken it to the vet and the vet said it was normal and fine. I asked which vet, I'd ask him to let me know it was okay - didn't want to tell me that, to which I said 'no, because it's not true is it?'
I told them either they deal with it, by one of them staying home or putting it into doggy daycare, or I would.
At which point I was invited to leave!
I am bloody fuming about it though, I cannot abide animal cruelty.
Guess the next step is the RSPCA.
f
king annoying, hate falling out with people but enough is enough. Honestly I don't blame you, you want to phone the councils Environmental health for some general advice,if you haven't already record when it happens and length of time it goes on for.
Obviously contact rspca aswell for advice. And if a vet has told them this is ok especially after this many weeks, well they are wrong. It is not ok to let it carry on incessantly.
What type of dog is it? Do you see them walking it?
Obviously contact rspca aswell for advice. And if a vet has told them this is ok especially after this many weeks, well they are wrong. It is not ok to let it carry on incessantly.
What type of dog is it? Do you see them walking it?
Gassing Station | All Creatures Great & Small | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff