Smaller alternatives to an old english sheepdog?

[Hugh Jarse]

Nearest i got was a sheepadoodle, any other suggestions?
My Mrs wants an OES but i reckon too much maintenance and too big.
Want one about 2/3rds the size, boundy and friendly.

[JDiz]

Tibetan terriers seem to fit that description, i've no experience of them myself other than a lovely one that used to go dog training with us

http://www.the-tta.org.uk/Tibetan_Terrier_Associat...

[RVVUNM]

Here you go, http://www.wheaten.org.uk/

[redddraggon]

You've not really said what you want out of a dog. Presumably you want the coat type?

Hugh Jarse said:

Want one about 2/3rds the size, boundy and friendly.

Otherwise a Border Collie would fit the above description.

[Hugh Jarse]

redddraggon said:

Otherwise a Border Collie would fit the above description.

Yeah lovely, but they need too much exercise.
Just a nice family dog with the option for a long coat in winter.
Good with young children. Have a decent garden to wander in.
Friendly easy to train.
Thanks for the other suggestions above.

[redddraggon]

Hugh Jarse said:

Yeah lovely, but they need too much exercise.
Just a nice family dog with the option for a long coat in winter.
Good with young children. Have a decent garden to wander in.
Friendly easy to train.
Thanks for the other suggestions above.

I don't find the exercise levels that onerous, mine only gets one "walk" a day, but he's more of a companion to me than a pet, so he's spends most of the time with me, and he has plenty of opportunity to socialise with other dogs in the family. Certainly with a less obedient dog I'd have to spend more time devoted to his exercise, rather leaving him to it with me supervising!

[AdiT]

Bearded collie?

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=bearded+collie&a...

[Bonefish Blues]

Polish Lowland, shirley?

http://www.plsc.org.uk/

[Hugh Jarse]

Oh thats another couple of good ones.
Looked at Labradoodles yesterday, though not that similar to OES of course.
I reckon herders (sheepdogs) are better than hunters (terriers) around kids.
But I have not much experience of dogs except my fathers tibetan terrier and she is a nippy little cow at times.
Happy wife, happy life. Maybe I should just stick with OES.

[Mobile Chicane]

Lagotto romagnolo. The truffle hunting dog of Italy. It has a woolly coat which can grow long if you let it, and a lovely temperament (it's a gun dog).

[AlexC1981]

Drives me mad the way these dogs always have fur over their eyes. Why don't people trim it back?

[s2kjock]

AlexC1981 said:

Drives me mad the way these dogs always have fur over their eyes. Why don't people trim it back?

Aesthetics - either for showing or just what owners like.

My parents have had long haired dogs for almost 40 years, and while my folks often do trim it back, if they don't, the dogs still seem to see where they are going despite having hair often appearing to obscure their eyesight.

We have had the odd one run into a tree while on a walk, but even humans manage to do that from time to time.

You can use a small elastic hair band to tie the hair up out of their eyes, but it does make the dog look ridiculous.