Borderdoodles, colliepoos etc

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Steve H

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5,224 posts

194 months

Friday 25th November 2016
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It's been 15 years now and I still miss having a dog and SWMBO was brought up with them and could probably be persuaded that we need a four legged furry friend in our lives again.

The (or I should say "one of the") issue is what breed to have. I've always loved border collies but Mrs H didn't get on so well with the one I had when we got together and she also has pet hair allergies that cause problems.

I gather than most doodle/poo cross breeds tend to shed little/no hair so I was wondering about a collie version. Googling it seems to come up with mostly US breeders and not much in the UK.

Any advice, alternatives or owners experiences would be very welcome!


Steve H

moorx

3,481 posts

113 months

Friday 25th November 2016
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No, I've certainly not seen many of that cross.

From what I understand, those are recognised as the two most intelligent breeds (BC and poodle) so it would be one smart dog!

bexVN

14,682 posts

210 months

Friday 25th November 2016
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moorx said:
No, I've certainly not seen many of that cross.

From what I understand, those are recognised as the two most intelligent breeds (BC and poodle) so it would be one smart dog!
And potentially highly strung with a mix like that!

OP there is no guarantee of less shedding as they are a crossbreed so no guarantee of that 'gene' getting passed on.

Brads67

3,199 posts

97 months

Friday 25th November 2016
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Designer rubbish that crooks charge the earth for.

Buy a dog, not a made up talking point ornament.

Jasandjules

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228 months

Friday 25th November 2016
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Brads67 said:
Designer rubbish that crooks charge the earth for.

Buy a dog, not a made up talking point ornament.
Sounds good to me.

Steve H

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194 months

Friday 25th November 2016
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I think you may have misunderstood the reason for my question frown . I'm not looking for a fashion accessory, just considering options for a dog that would suit our preferences and needs.

On the whole I agree with the "designer" comments, I'd be happy to call it a mongrel so long as it was the right kind of mongrel for us!

Brads67

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97 months

Friday 25th November 2016
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Bedlington terriers do not shed.

Whippet x lurchers also.

Staffies make amazing pets and are great family dogs.

Collies are not to be trusted

Labs get fat if you turn your back on them for 10 minutes

Alsatians make great pets but most have health issues in later life

Working cockers are by far the best spaniel and are cheap.

moorx

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113 months

Friday 25th November 2016
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Brads67 said:
Bedlington terriers do not shed.

Whippet x lurchers also.
Whippets (and lurchers - I've owned both) certainly can moult/shed.

OP - if you're looking for advice, there was a thread recently on a similar topic:

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

Steve H

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Friday 25th November 2016
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moorx said:
OP - if you're looking for advice, there was a thread recently on a similar topic:

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
Thanks, some interesting options in there although many are just recommending their favourite type of dog which is understandable and why I would ideally have another BC or a wife-friendly hybrid thereof!



Of Brad's suggestions the Staffie would probably be the most likely, lovely dogs and sadly there's all too many of them in the local rescues.

moorx

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113 months

Friday 25th November 2016
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Steve H said:
moorx said:
OP - if you're looking for advice, there was a thread recently on a similar topic:

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
Thanks, some interesting options in there although many are just recommending their favourite type of dog which is understandable and why I would ideally have another BC or a wife-friendly hybrid thereof!



Of Brad's suggestions the Staffie would probably be the most likely, lovely dogs and sadly there's all too many of them in the local rescues.
Absolutely - I've owned two staffy crosses and adore the breed. As you say, sadly all too common in rescue.

Good luck in finding a dog that will be suitable.

Boosted LS1

21,167 posts

259 months

Friday 25th November 2016
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Op, just get a full sized poodle. There are 2 fantastic poodles that I bump into on my walks. Don't pander to the silly cross breeding trend of the present.

LambShank

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188 months

Friday 25th November 2016
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I'll chuck the Lagotto into the mix - not just because I've got one, but they really don't shed a single hair and are intelligent and stupid at the same time.
One of the most hypoallergenic breeds around.

Steve H

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Saturday 26th November 2016
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Boosted LS1 said:
Op, just get a full sized poodle. There are 2 fantastic poodles that I bump into on my walks. Don't pander to the silly cross breeding trend of the present.
I'm not really a poodle fan TBH, not a dog I've ever really gelled with.

The Lagotto is an interesting option, bit smaller than I had in mind but seems right in every other way clap

Boosted LS1

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259 months

Saturday 26th November 2016
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Steve H said:
Boosted LS1 said:
Op, just get a full sized poodle. There are 2 fantastic poodles that I bump into on my walks. Don't pander to the silly cross breeding trend of the present.
I'm not really a poodle fan TBH, not a dog I've ever really gelled with.

The Lagotto is an interesting option, bit smaller than I had in mind but seems right in every other way clap
Fair enough. Have you met a full sized poodle that's not been all fancied up? They're pretty big dogs, not at all girly. I think the police have in the past used a couple. The ones I bump into here are brimming with character, confident and have a pleasing personality. A golden retriever might be suitable were it not such a hairy bugger :-)

bexVN

14,682 posts

210 months

Saturday 26th November 2016
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Standard poodles are nuts biggrin.
Playful, boisterous full of energy but lovely natured as well. Very misunderstood breed.

Boshly

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235 months

Saturday 26th November 2016
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Labradoodles were originally bred to provide a specific purpose; not just a designer label. The result is a wonderful mix of intelligence non shedding loyal dog. Can't say the same for other cross breeds though I must admit with all the interbreeding that has gone on I'd much rather a cross breed (or Heinz 57) than a straight pedigree.

Oh and miniature poodle with lab tends to give a more calm dog for sown reason - not scientific only my obs.

Andy (biased as hell with an angelic Labradoodle biggrin )

Edited by Boshly on Saturday 26th November 12:14

LambShank

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188 months

Saturday 26th November 2016
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Steve H said:
I'm not really a poodle fan TBH, not a dog I've ever really gelled with.

The Lagotto is an interesting option, bit smaller than I had in mind but seems right in every other way clap
Ours is actually bigger than I expected him to be.

The males are, in many cases, significantly bigger than the females.
Ours is at the upper end of the breed standard size at a healthy 16kgs.

They're classed as small to medium breed, but I'd put them in the medium every time.
One issue though, is that they're not easy to come by.

Boosted LS1

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259 months

Saturday 26th November 2016
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Boshly said:
Labradoodles were originally bred to provide a specific purpose; not just a designer label.

Edited by Boshly on Saturday 26th November 12:14
What were they bred for Andy?

LambShank

14,673 posts

188 months

Saturday 26th November 2016
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Hypoallergenic guide dogs.

Boshly

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235 months

Saturday 26th November 2016
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Boosted LS1 said:
Boshly said:
Labradoodles were originally bred to provide a specific purpose; not just a designer label.

Edited by Boshly on Saturday 26th November 12:14
What were they bred for Andy?
What Lambshank said smile in Australia I believe - which is why you're u will occasionally we reference to Australian Labradoodle.

It does get complicated as not all pups are hypoallergenic and then you have the complication of 1st vs 2nd generation etc but ours is simply the result of an apricot miniature poodle and a brown lab. Everyone remarks what a lovely natured and well behaved boy he is smile and he doesn't shed thumbup