8yr Old Lab Male Skin Issues - help pls! BexVN AliKat :-)

8yr Old Lab Male Skin Issues - help pls! BexVN AliKat :-)

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jonamv8

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3,146 posts

166 months

Tuesday 20th December 2016
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Mort has always has his issues normally managed at home with some TLC but bit worried about his skin at the moment.

His groin by back legs:





Above seems to be spreading upwards gradually.


Now to the other side:



This is right in groin by his balls and far less visible otherlike the other side.



Also these have appeared on his head from nowhere, almost bleeding before i cleaned them:



Pretty sure he hasnt been fighting and im noticing if i part fur on head the skin looks quite raw/sore.


Currently keeping clean with dettol antiseptic and sudocream as a barrier.


Any ideas before i book him in anyone? He seems very itchy and a bit moany but on his food and walks as normal.

Hate seeing my mate suffer but dont like our local vets!

Boosted LS1

21,183 posts

260 months

Tuesday 20th December 2016
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I would suggest skin parasites but you need a vets opinion. Fortunately there are vets on this site who I'm sure will try to offer advice.

jonamv8

Original Poster:

3,146 posts

166 months

Tuesday 20th December 2016
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Boosted LS1 said:
I would suggest skin parasites but you need a vets opinion. Fortunately there are vets on this site who I'm sure will try to offer advice.
Thank you. I'm researching skin parasites and the following seems the most accurate:

The common symptoms of mange, both sarcoptic and demodex, include itching, hair loss around the eyes, head and legs, a red skin rash and crusty skin.

jonamv8

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3,146 posts

166 months

Tuesday 20th December 2016
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Just to add he is flea'd quite regularly and washed every fortnight in flea shampoo too.

Two of us in the house don't seem itchy and I can't seen any mites/parasites in his fur, maybe I need a magnifying glass?

moorx

3,508 posts

114 months

Tuesday 20th December 2016
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As far as I know, mange can only be confirmed by looking at skin scrapings under a microscope, so I would strongly recommend seeing a vet.

ETA - I don't think I'd recommend using dettol (I wouldn't on my dogs, I think it's too strong).

Also, is there a reason you're giving him fortnightly baths with flea shampoo? Again, I hardly ever bath my dogs (Jet's never been bathed in nearly five years and Sam's had one in the same timeframe). I realise that labs do like getting grubby though smile

Edited by moorx on Tuesday 20th December 21:30

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

196 months

Tuesday 20th December 2016
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Pretty much identical to our yellow lab. Speak to your vet, there are drugs you can give them but they are very expensive and related to chemotherapy. It was NOT a parasite infection.

We found ours suffered flair ups which meant constant drugs were not always needed, plus the drugs really didn't make him very good. In the end we prefered a little localised discomfort on his part opposed to pumping him full of drugs that made him piss himself.

Basically it was am allergy they get (can be a simple as dandelions-try telling a lab to keep off the grass) which irritates them, making them itch and nibble which leads to the bacteria in their mouth infecting the skin.

He's reasonably good with it these days, he still gets flare ups and mad scratting sessions but I'm fked if I'm spending £80 a month to pump him full of chemo. Last I heard there is a slightly cheaper drug available.

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

196 months

Tuesday 20th December 2016
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PS it's quite common, but I must implore you to seek out a good vet who knows their stuff and doesn't just either treat for parasites or continually test for which allergy it may be-it could be anything of thousands and any vet who recommends testing is pretty much trying to make money from testing for ever and a day.

Feel free to PM

Mobile Chicane

20,815 posts

212 months

Wednesday 21st December 2016
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Parasites not so likely at this time of year. You need to get that dog to a vet. The wounds on its head will be from scratching.

bexVN

14,682 posts

211 months

Wednesday 21st December 2016
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moorx said:
As far as I know, mange can only be confirmed by looking at skin scrapings under a microscope, so I would strongly recommend seeing a vet.

ETA - I don't think I'd recommend using dettol (I wouldn't on my dogs, I think it's too strong).

Also, is there a reason you're giving him fortnightly baths with flea shampoo? Again, I hardly ever bath my dogs (Jet's never been bathed in nearly five years and Sam's had one in the same timeframe). I realise that labs do like getting grubby though smile

Edited by moorx on Tuesday 20th December 21:30
This really. He needs vet attention. Flea shampoo's are a really ineffective flea control and very harsh on the skin. Aloe and oatmeal shampoos would be better or in his case a vet may suggest Malaseb with is an excellent shampoo for various skin issues.

Stop the dettol and caution with sudocrem a very useful cream when used in appropriate cases but as dogs lick if they keep licking it off they can get zinc toxicity (Usually if being used daily for a while)

So yes it is a vet visit, skin issues can make a dogs life miserable, the longer they go on the harder it can be to control and treat. Would definitely be checking for mange as one in a list of possibles.

If this is ruled out and stoppingthe topical applications you are using doesn't then diet should be looked at if it hasn't already (realise it may have been if he has had issues over the years)

Hope it gets resolved quickly.

Edited by bexVN on Wednesday 21st December 07:58

TwistingMyMelon

6,385 posts

205 months

Wednesday 21st December 2016
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I never bathe my dogs, unless they roll in poo tbh, would irritate their skin too much

jonamv8

Original Poster:

3,146 posts

166 months

Wednesday 21st December 2016
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moorx said:
As far as I know, mange can only be confirmed by looking at skin scrapings under a microscope, so I would strongly recommend seeing a vet.

ETA - I don't think I'd recommend using dettol (I wouldn't on my dogs, I think it's too strong).

Also, is there a reason you're giving him fortnightly baths with flea shampoo? Again, I hardly ever bath my dogs (Jet's never been bathed in nearly five years and Sam's had one in the same timeframe). I realise that labs do like getting grubby though smile

Edited by moorx on Tuesday 20th December 21:30
My partner has a very strong sense of smell and our Lab loves to jump in lakes, puddles, ponds anything so we like to keep clean and smelling nice!

I think I'm going to leave the flea shampoo well alone though and use something like Aloe which should be better on his skin

moorx

3,508 posts

114 months

Wednesday 21st December 2016
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Are you going to take him to the vet?

jonamv8

Original Poster:

3,146 posts

166 months

Wednesday 21st December 2016
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moorx said:
Are you going to take him to the vet?
Sorry yes I should have said, I will definitely take him to the vet. hopefully get him booked in tomorrow. I will update the thread with what they say

moorx

3,508 posts

114 months

Wednesday 21st December 2016
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jonamv8 said:
Sorry yes I should have said, I will definitely take him to the vet. hopefully get him booked in tomorrow. I will update the thread with what they say
smile Yes, please keep us updated.

bexVN

14,682 posts

211 months

Wednesday 21st December 2016
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moorx said:
jonamv8 said:
Sorry yes I should have said, I will definitely take him to the vet. hopefully get him booked in tomorrow. I will update the thread with what they say
smile Yes, please keep us updated.
Would be nice to know yes Keeping fingers crossed that it is easy to treat

smn159

12,626 posts

217 months

Wednesday 21st December 2016
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My lab had exactly the same, although it would flare up in the Summer and subside in the Winter. Seems to be related to a reaction to summer plants / grass, but we also had some allergy tests done and turns out he is allergic to pork and beef.

Change in diet helped, plus we don't bath him (although he does swim in the local lake...).

He still gets it, but nothing like as bad as before.

ali_kat

31,988 posts

221 months

Thursday 22nd December 2016
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Sorry haven't really been around much this week.

I've not seen anything like this before; so would have said no Dettol & Vets asap

As for your partners delicate nose... she needs to learn to suck up doggy smells - they aren't meant to be bathed that often!

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 22nd December 2016
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As others have said, I would not be washing the dog that often.

I only ever washed my Jaz when she stank or stroking her left an inch of oil on my hands smile

Sargeant Orange

2,706 posts

147 months

Thursday 22nd December 2016
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As above, our 8 year old Lab has never had shampoo on him. After every muddy run it's a hose down with cold water & a rub dry. He gets allergies from May-Jul but Piriton keeps them at bay

Gretchen

19,029 posts

216 months

Thursday 22nd December 2016
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jonamv8 said:
My partner has a very strong sense of smell and our Lab loves to jump in lakes, puddles, ponds anything so we like to keep clean and smelling nice!

I think I'm going to leave the flea shampoo well alone though and use something like Aloe which should be better on his skin
How often do you bathe him? Does he get dried properly, in these areas particularly! TBH I don't bath my dogs unless (as mentioned above) they've rolled in something dead, or that smells dead.

He will clean himself. If he gets wet from a swim, make sure he is dried properly. I'd lay off any kind of skin products full stop unless the vet prescribes something!