Jean is in season, what do?

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tonyb1968

1,156 posts

146 months

Thursday 30th March 2017
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bexVN said:
Pesty said:
st Jean is booked in to be sorted in a few weeks but nina has found blood around for a couple of days.

She can't be in season again can she? It was January when she was before
Couple possibilities. As she was quite young for her first season, she could be having what is called a Split season (worth having a read up about it) the other one I can think of which is much less likely is Juvenile pyo.

I think a chat to your vet and a check up at the same time would be sensible.

There may be a blood test they could do to see what stage of her season she is at (I'm not 100% sure as not a regular thing)
Lottie's first season was split, she was 4.5 months old, had a bit of bleeding for about 10 days then stopped, 6-7 weeks later started again so took her to the vets, explained to them and they gave her a check up and said it was a split season smile

Pesty

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42,655 posts

256 months

Thursday 30th March 2017
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Took her in did a sample test said she has an infection and she's in antibiotics.

He said he glands were blocked and that might have lead to an infection of her other bits.

Got to take her back in 6 days with another sample.

bexVN

14,682 posts

211 months

Friday 31st March 2017
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Pesty said:
Took her in did a sample test said she has an infection and she's in antibiotics.

He said he glands were blocked and that might have lead to an infection of her other bits.

Got to take her back in 6 days with another sample.
Do you mean cystitis?

Pesty

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256 months

Friday 31st March 2017
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That word wasn't mentioned just infection

bexVN

14,682 posts

211 months

Friday 31st March 2017
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Pesty said:
That word wasn't mentioned just infection
Nice and vague!

jmsgld

1,010 posts

176 months

Saturday 1st April 2017
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One of the most important reasons to neuter female dogs is to reduce the chances of breast cancer.
Breast cancer is the most common cancer of intact female dogs and about 50% of these are malignant (nasty).
Dogs should usually be spayed around 2-3 months after the end of their season, and basically in between the 2, so if the seasons are 4 months apart I would go for about 9-10 weeks after the end.
They should not be spayed when in false pregnancy (as they risk remaining in perpetual false pregnancy) this can be stopped with Galastop. If they have one false pregnancy they are likely to have repeated ones after each season, often becoming more pronounced.

Spaying before the 1st season reduces risk by 99.5%
Spaying before 2nd season reduces risk by 92%
Spaying before 3rd season reduces risk by 74%
Spaying after 3rd season does not protect against breast cancer.

First season is usually around 7-11 months old.

There is always a risk / benefit balance.
There is a small but significant increased risk of urinary incontinence after spaying dogs (somewhere between 1 and 20%, probably more like 2-3%)
There are some reports of increased risk of musculoskeletal diseases in dogs after neutering particularly pre-pubertal neuterings and particularly in larger dogs. There are not enough data to give realistic figures.
Incidence of pyometra (potentially fatal womb infection) has a reported incidence of up to 24% over the lifetime of an entire female dog.
Any anaesthetic always carries with it a certain degree of risk.
Neutered animals are more likely to be overweight, being overweight will reduce a dogs life expectancy by on average 3 years.
Testosterone is a significant source of confidence in male dogs, castration may be contraindicated in nervous dogs.

This is by no means an exhaustive list, simply some information to discuss with your vet.
Generally the advice is to spay before or after the first season depending on breed.

Pesty

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256 months

Saturday 1st April 2017
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bexVN said:
Nice and vague!
He had a good feel around didn't seem too concerned.

She's just as bonkers as normal. Definitely more dingo in this one or she has ADHD. Would she still be doing back flips with juvenile pyro?


bexVN

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211 months

Saturday 1st April 2017
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Pesty said:
bexVN said:
Nice and vague!
He had a good feel around didn't seem too concerned.

She's just as bonkers as normal. Definitely more dingo in this one or she has ADHD. Would she still be doing back flips with juvenile pyro?
They can still be lively but don't worry about that, there would probably be more discharge and it is not a common problem. I mentioned it more as a random possibility than a likely one.

BlueFiestaST

9,079 posts

165 months

Thursday 6th April 2017
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There must be a bh in heat close by to me as the past couple of weeks my lab has been going crazy.
Caught him jumping up the back garden wall Monday and he hurt his leg.

Constantly crying out and wanting to go in the back. Straight to the back wall.

Pesty

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42,655 posts

256 months

Friday 7th April 2017
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She's definitely in heat Logan's panting like a lunatic again ffs. frown

bexVN

14,682 posts

211 months

Friday 7th April 2017
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Oh dear. Unfortunately this suggests that she didn't actually have a true full season first time so be prepared for Logan to be more agitated this time. Good luck.

Pesty

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256 months

Saturday 8th April 2017
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He already torn one stair gate down.


Both in their crates.


Turn7

23,609 posts

221 months

Saturday 8th April 2017
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You have my sympathy because I know exactly how bad that can be....

Pesty

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42,655 posts

256 months

Wednesday 12th April 2017
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Right well that was thankfully very short.

Logan has stopped panting and lost all interest in her.

Jean is back to barking in his face to play every two minutes because a 4 mile walk with them constantly running up and down easily covering triple that amount wasn't enough apparently.


Think it was better before at least she was quiet.


hondafanatic

4,969 posts

201 months

Wednesday 19th April 2017
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Just a quick question - was there any behaviour change when Jean was nearing season?

Just noticed in the last day or so Freya has change her personality a bit. Very restless, whining for no apparent reason... Chewing through wood etc like there's no tomorrow... Probably sum it up as 'agitated'.

She's coming up to six months old.

Ta muchly.

Pesty

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Wednesday 19th April 2017
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She was a little bit quiet for a day or so but not much to be honest.

Pesty

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Saturday 24th June 2017
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Well we took her to be spayed three weeks ago.

Guess what she's pregnant not really pregnant she just thinks she is. frown

Took her back this week and she's still lactating so the vets want to give hormone treatment to stop it before they spay her.

Not sure what I think about that even they said they don't like doing it.

carinatauk

1,408 posts

252 months

Saturday 24th June 2017
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Mine did the same after her op. Meds to stop the lactating. I have heard of quite a few doing this, can't be normal surely?

bexVN

14,682 posts

211 months

Saturday 24th June 2017
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Pesty said:
Well we took her to be spayed three weeks ago.

Guess what she's pregnant not really pregnant she just thinks she is. frown

Took her back this week and she's still lactating so the vets want to give hormone treatment to stop it before they spay her.

Not sure what I think about that even they said they don't like doing it.
Sometimes a necessary evil, if you see what I mean (not actually evil!) . Better than spaying if she is lactating a lot.

Morningside

24,110 posts

229 months

Saturday 24th June 2017
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carinatauk said:
Mine did the same after her op. Meds to stop the lactating. I have heard of quite a few doing this, can't be normal surely?
Ours was the same, Poppy was given Galastop (£25!) for a week after op and we were asked if she was gathering or collect toys. Nesting?

I'm sure she is getting fatter. I know male dogs do this but do females as well?