Cat Vs. Dog

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EnthusiastOwned

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728 posts

117 months

Thursday 2nd March 2017
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I'm a little shocked and miffed if i'm honest.

I was walking my dog this morning (A Staffordshire Bull Terrier, for what it's worth) on lead, I see a cat sat on a door step of a house I walk by (with a healthy drive), the dog didn't see it so I hush him along, i'm probably 2-3 houses up and I hear this hiss, I turn around; as does the dog and the cat just attacked. I tried to drag the dog away, but the cat just followed pawing. I tried to get in between the cat and dog, the cat's not phased and then goes for me. I cross the road, whilst fighting/dragging a terrified dog all while this skitzo cat is going for the dog. Crazy.

The cat finally relents as i'm about 10 houses away. When I'm well up the road I check the dog and his face is cut and bleeding. Nothing serious but some very close to his eye (which is concerning should this happen again).

What should I do from here? Report it, contact the owners (I think I know which house it is).

Edited by EnthusiastOwned on Thursday 2nd March 09:22

Prof Prolapse

16,160 posts

190 months

Thursday 2nd March 2017
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I'd just kick the bloody thing personally, you're only doing it in defence.

The owners won't do a thing about it, their cat is an asshole, what can they do?




EnthusiastOwned

Original Poster:

728 posts

117 months

Thursday 2nd March 2017
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Prof Prolapse said:
I'd just kick the bloody thing personally, you're only doing it in defence.

The owners won't do a thing about it, their cat is an asshole, what can they do?
I did give the cat a gentle push-kick, but I think anything short of a serious punt was fruitless.

I'm more concerned about it happening again, the same cat followed me and the dog up the road a few months back (just stalked us - which I remembered thinking at the time "what the fk is wrong with this cat?" laugh).

Next time I don't think i'll restrain the dog as it just made things worse for everyone apart from the cat, the issue is if my dog felt that way inclined; the cat wouldn't come out too well. I feel guilty that my restraining of the dog is what caused his injury (he couldn't move out of the way). Why should I risk injury to my dog or myself for some deranged animal? I'm just very aware if it was the other way around the dog will be under some very serious scrutiny.

I've raised it with the local authority - More so if it does happen again and my (or someone elses) dog comes out trumps, it's on file that the cat's a dick. rolleyes

Prof Prolapse

16,160 posts

190 months

Thursday 2nd March 2017
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Yeah good plan, reporting it also gives you the opportunity to be covered if you subsequently boot the bloody thing and the owners get upset. As you say, best keep the dog out of it, doesn't look good when dogs attack cats, even in defence.

We had a really nasty one kept coming around here attacking our cat, went for my wife, and going into the neighbour's house. As much as I don't advocate it, I think my neighbor ended up bumping the thing off in the end, it was actually quite a dangerous little animal.





Edited by Prof Prolapse on Thursday 2nd March 11:36

Ace-T

7,697 posts

255 months

Thursday 2nd March 2017
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Prof Prolapse said:
I'd just kick the bloody thing personally, you're only doing it in defence.

The owners won't do a thing about it, their cat is an asshole, what can they do?
Seriously? The cat is clearly trying to protect its territory, yes it is being an asshole but suggesting an action which could seriously injure it is very disturbing.

Most cats will back down and run away with lots of noise and gesticulation. OP, if you think you will encounter it again, a water pistol is a harmless yet very annoying to cats deterrent. Perhaps knock on the door (without the dog) to let the owners know their cat is being a dick may result in some action by the owners. You never know, not every pet owner is a dick either.

227bhp

10,203 posts

128 months

Thursday 2nd March 2017
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EnthusiastOwned said:
What should I do from here?
A cat taking on a Staffie and winning?

Do it again and film it, i'd pay good money to see that!

Prof Prolapse

16,160 posts

190 months

Thursday 2nd March 2017
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Ace-T said:
Seriously? The cat is clearly trying to protect its territory, yes it is being an asshole but suggesting an action which could seriously injure it is very disturbing.

Most cats will back down and run away with lots of noise and gesticulation. OP, if you think you will encounter it again, a water pistol is a harmless yet very annoying to cats deterrent. Perhaps knock on the door (without the dog) to let the owners know their cat is being a dick may result in some action by the owners. You never know, not every pet owner is a dick either.
I'm only advocating protecting yourself and your pet, you have a right to use proportionate response. Giving it a kick won't necessarily result in any serious injury, they're not that fragile, and I'm not suggesting stamping it to death for goodness sake.

You can shout, flap your arms, and wave your water pistol around if you like however.







thebraketester

14,228 posts

138 months

Thursday 2nd March 2017
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Which type of cat was it? Here is a poster to help jog your memory.


227bhp

10,203 posts

128 months

Thursday 2nd March 2017
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thebraketester said:
Which type of cat was it? Here is a poster to help jog your memory.

laugh

OP next week:



Did it look like one of those?

Yipper

5,964 posts

90 months

Thursday 2nd March 2017
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Ace-T said:
Prof Prolapse said:
I'd just kick the bloody thing personally, you're only doing it in defence.

The owners won't do a thing about it, their cat is an asshole, what can they do?
Seriously? The cat is clearly trying to protect its territory, yes it is being an asshole but suggesting an action which could seriously injure it is very disturbing.

Most cats will back down and run away with lots of noise and gesticulation. OP, if you think you will encounter it again, a water pistol is a harmless yet very annoying to cats deterrent. Perhaps knock on the door (without the dog) to let the owners know their cat is being a dick may result in some action by the owners. You never know, not every pet owner is a dick either.
Yes, a 6ft / 80kg man (or whatever) kicking a 1ft / 4kg cat is a disturbingly aggressive response to a house pet. Even a mad, feral cat will run away instantly if you stamp the ground, wave arms, shout loud and rush toward it. Plenty of nonviolent ways to disperse the cat. When you're ~20 times bigger and stronger, you don't need violence to win.

The OP really should have been more careful and mindful. Everyone knows cats and dogs fight. They are biologically primed to defend their (and their owner's) territory. They are only doing their job. Keep a safer distance and closer eye when passing next time.

clio007

542 posts

225 months

Thursday 2nd March 2017
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Sounds like your dog is abit of a pussy to be honestbiggrin

Gargamel

14,988 posts

261 months

Thursday 2nd March 2017
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Just let the dog off the lead

EnthusiastOwned

Original Poster:

728 posts

117 months

Thursday 2nd March 2017
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Prof Prolapse said:
Ace-T said:
Seriously? The cat is clearly trying to protect its territory, yes it is being an asshole but suggesting an action which could seriously injure it is very disturbing.

Most cats will back down and run away with lots of noise and gesticulation. OP, if you think you will encounter it again, a water pistol is a harmless yet very annoying to cats deterrent. Perhaps knock on the door (without the dog) to let the owners know their cat is being a dick may result in some action by the owners. You never know, not every pet owner is a dick either.
I'm only advocating protecting yourself and your pet, you have a right to use proportionate response. Giving it a kick won't necessarily result in any serious injury, they're not that fragile, and I'm not suggesting stamping it to death for goodness sake.

You can shout, flap your arms, and wave your water pistol around if you like however.
I did shout, stamp, make noises - but the cat was having non of it. It was in serious attack mode. Imagine walking around with a water pistol at the ready, i'll look like a right nutter! laugh

I think I'll give a knock and have a friendly chat, I am more concerned about the cat than the dog as next time it might not be so pretty. I'm sure they owner would rather have a knock to discuss rather than a knock to show them a mauled/dead cat.

227bhp said:
A cat taking on a Staffie and winning?

Do it again and film it, i'd pay good money to see that!
He's a massive softie and he's been sulking all morning feeling sorry for himself. The concern is he only takes so much st until he stands his ground, next time I imagine him having a pop back and since he chomps through lamb vertebrae for fun I don't have much hope for the cat.

thebraketester said:
Which type of cat was it? Here is a poster to help jog your memory.

Its was the ginger , top row, 3rd from left laugh

thebraketester

14,228 posts

138 months

Thursday 2nd March 2017
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biglaugh

EnthusiastOwned

Original Poster:

728 posts

117 months

Thursday 2nd March 2017
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Yipper said:
Ace-T said:
Prof Prolapse said:
I'd just kick the bloody thing personally, you're only doing it in defence.

The owners won't do a thing about it, their cat is an asshole, what can they do?
Seriously? The cat is clearly trying to protect its territory, yes it is being an asshole but suggesting an action which could seriously injure it is very disturbing.

Most cats will back down and run away with lots of noise and gesticulation. OP, if you think you will encounter it again, a water pistol is a harmless yet very annoying to cats deterrent. Perhaps knock on the door (without the dog) to let the owners know their cat is being a dick may result in some action by the owners. You never know, not every pet owner is a dick either.
Yes, a 6ft / 80kg man (or whatever) kicking a 1ft / 4kg cat is a disturbingly aggressive response to a house pet. Even a mad, feral cat will run away instantly if you stamp the ground, wave arms, shout loud and rush toward it. Plenty of nonviolent ways to disperse the cat. When you're ~20 times bigger and stronger, you don't need violence to win.

The OP really should have been more careful and mindful. Everyone knows cats and dogs fight. They are biologically primed to defend their (and their owner's) territory. They are only doing their job. Keep a safer distance and closer eye when passing next time.
I don't really know what more I could have done or can do. Avoiding the area is not possible, the house is right on the corner next to the road up to our local farm. I saw the cat sat on the doorstep, down a long drive, the dog didn't so I hushed the dog up the road so he didn't see the cat. I was 2-3 houses past then the cat appeared; it must have literally bolted up the drive to us looking for a fight. I'm very mindful of cats and furry animals (my dog loves squirrels).


clio007 said:
Sounds like your dog is abit of a pussy to be honestbiggrin
He is and I take that as a compliment. smile

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 2nd March 2017
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bomb

3,692 posts

284 months

Thursday 2nd March 2017
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Prof Prolapse

16,160 posts

190 months

Thursday 2nd March 2017
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Yipper said:
Yes, a 6ft / 80kg man (or whatever) kicking a 1ft / 4kg cat is a disturbingly aggressive response to a house pet. Even a mad, feral cat will run away instantly if you stamp the ground, wave arms, shout loud and rush toward it. Plenty of nonviolent ways to disperse the cat. When you're ~20 times bigger and stronger, you don't need violence to win.

The OP really should have been more careful and mindful. Everyone knows cats and dogs fight. They are biologically primed to defend their (and their owner's) territory. They are only doing their job. Keep a safer distance and closer eye when passing next time.
Seriously? The guy tried to shoo it and it went for him, I've cats do similar to me, so I know first hand what you're saying is based on absolutely non sense. There's the odd one that doesn't run, I've had 7 or 8 cats over the years and I was in possession of one so bad once the postman wouldn't deliver to our house.

That's brilliant, when it's attacking you and your pet, don't use violence to defend yourself. We'll look to invoke some sort of diplomatic relationship next time? Cat based sanctions perhaps? Perhaps Henry Kissenger could get involved..

After all it's the OPs own fault for daring to walk down his own street!

You absolute loon.








amancalledrob

1,248 posts

134 months

Thursday 2nd March 2017
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Prof Prolapse said:
Yipper said:
Yes, a 6ft / 80kg man (or whatever) kicking a 1ft / 4kg cat is a disturbingly aggressive response to a house pet. Even a mad, feral cat will run away instantly if you stamp the ground, wave arms, shout loud and rush toward it. Plenty of nonviolent ways to disperse the cat. When you're ~20 times bigger and stronger, you don't need violence to win.

The OP really should have been more careful and mindful. Everyone knows cats and dogs fight. They are biologically primed to defend their (and their owner's) territory. They are only doing their job. Keep a safer distance and closer eye when passing next time.
Seriously? The guy tried to shoo it and it went for him, I've cats do similar to me, so I know first hand what you're saying is based on absolutely non sense. There's the odd one that doesn't run, I've had 7 or 8 cats over the years and I was in possession of one so bad once the postman wouldn't deliver to our house.

That's brilliant, when it's attacking you and your pet, don't use violence to defend yourself. We'll look to invoke some sort of diplomatic relationship next time? Cat based sanctions perhaps? Perhaps Henry Kissenger could get involved..

After all it's the OPs own fault for daring to walk down his own street!

You absolute loon.
Seconded. One of our cats weighs a stone, doesn't have any fat, and is basically a dick. I love him but I'd be the first to condone giving him a kick if necessary, a gentle one at first and then ramp things up if necessary. Cats are robust animals and you'd need an intentioned and well-aimed toe-punt to do any real damage
Edited by amancalledrob on Thursday 2nd March 14:36

Johnnytheboy

24,498 posts

186 months

Thursday 2nd March 2017
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My bulldog is quite friendly with cats, providing they aren't on his land.

My old house was in a cat-infested street. Walking the dog up the road there was one just sat on the pavement.

Dog went up to him for a sniff and the cat just started scratching and clawing at his face. Being a bulldog and having no real pain receptors, he just stood there sniffing until he had blood pouring down his cheeks and I dragged him away. The cat just sat there.

Kind of a draw really.