Innocent animal stuck in the middle

Innocent animal stuck in the middle

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garythesign

2,091 posts

88 months

Thursday 16th March 2017
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Old Tyke said:
It doesn't look like the adoption is going to happen. The rescue centre has now stipulated that in addition to an insurance policy being in place "at the signing of the contracts" (rolleyes yes, seriously), they have also dictated that random checks will be performed at any time of their choosing in the future to ensure that valid insurance cover is still in effect. If it is found not to be in place then the contract is terminated with immediate effect and the dog taken back into their care.

I am frankly gobsmacked at this conduct but from the majority of the replies above it seems that no-one else sees any problem with this. Frankly I'm done with rescue centres and it disgusts me that they operate in this manner with poor animals caught up in the middle of their ridiculous bureaucracy through no fault of their own.
This seems a very strange policy.

I can understand them wanting for the dog to be insured. I know you have a different opinion from this which I understand. Insuring my dogs gives me peace of mind.

We took on a rescue five years ago and had an email on her fifth birthday from the rescue centre. However I think it is quite rare to hear from them once the dog is 'yours'

I know that Guide Dogs remain the property of the association. We were piveleged to have a retired one and had to pay £1 so that ownership could remain with the Guide Dog association.

If this one is not going to work out, there are loads of staffies looking for good homes

Good luck


Old Tyke

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288 posts

86 months

Thursday 16th March 2017
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Cerbhd said:
I don't believe they would legally be able to check this even if they had the resources to call every insurance company.
They've said they would require physical proof, ie. a valid insurance policy. Whether they could actually check its validity or not is detracting from the point.

What next? Dictacting what dog food you feed her and having to scan your receipts as proof? Installing CCTV in your home to check you're feeding her twice a day and playing tug'o'war for at least an hour a day? It's beyond ridiculous. No, a lot of these rescue centres seem to think they're a branch of the RSPCA in the way they're acting like Little Hitler's.

I am sure I will find a dog locally via a private ad. Due diligence will be required of course and I may have to get her spayed myself but it'll be far simpler than having to deal with a bunch of jobsworths.

alfie2244

11,292 posts

188 months

PositronicRay

27,019 posts

183 months

Thursday 16th March 2017
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Old Tyke said:
Cerbhd said:
I don't believe they would legally be able to check this even if they had the resources to call every insurance company.
They've said they would require physical proof, ie. a valid insurance policy. Whether they could actually check its validity or not is detracting from the point.

What next? Dictacting what dog food you feed her and having to scan your receipts as proof? Installing CCTV in your home to check you're feeding her twice a day and playing tug'o'war for at least an hour a day? It's beyond ridiculous. No, a lot of these rescue centres seem to think they're a branch of the RSPCA in the way they're acting like Little Hitler's.

I am sure I will find a dog locally via a private ad. Due diligence will be required of course and I may have to get her spayed myself but it'll be far simpler than having to deal with a bunch of jobsworths.
Why not try Dogs Trust.

Cerbhd

338 posts

91 months

Thursday 16th March 2017
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Old Tyke said:
Cerbhd said:
I don't believe they would legally be able to check this even if they had the resources to call every insurance company.
They've said they would require physical proof, ie. a valid insurance policy. Whether they could actually check its validity or not is detracting from the point.

What next? Dictacting what dog food you feed her and having to scan your receipts as proof? Installing CCTV in your home to check you're feeding her twice a day and playing tug'o'war for at least an hour a day? It's beyond ridiculous. No, a lot of these rescue centres seem to think they're a branch of the RSPCA in the way they're acting like Little Hitler's.

I am sure I will find a dog locally via a private ad. Due diligence will be required of course and I may have to get her spayed myself but it'll be far simpler than having to deal with a bunch of jobsworths.
I appreciate they can easily check that you have insurance when they sell you the dog, my point is that they have no way of checking if you then cancel it.
Anyway I wish you luck as people have said there are plenty of great dogs needing a loving home

bexVN

14,682 posts

211 months

Thursday 16th March 2017
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Unexpected Item In Bagging Area said:
They're sticking to their policy that you think is unreasonable, you're sticking to your policy that they think is unreasonable.

What would you have to gain from not giving in and taking out insurance temporarily? It doesn't take long to purchase pet insurance and even less time to cancel it, particularly in view of the fact that you'll have the dog for many years.
It doesn't look like the adoption is going to happen. The rescue centre has now stipulated that in addition to an insurance policy being in place "at the signing of the contracts" (rolleyes yes, seriously), they have also dictated that random checks will be performed at any time of their choosing in the future to ensure that valid insurance cover is still in effect. If it is found not to be in place then the contract is terminated with immediate effect and the dog taken back into their care.

I am frankly gobsmacked at this conduct but from the majority of the replies above it seems that no-one else sees any problem with this. Frankly I'm done with rescue centres and it disgusts me that they operate in this manner with poor animals caught up in the middle of their ridiculous bureaucracy through no fault of their own.
I think that this is now a step too far by them tbh, unfortunately they have probably got themselves in a twist and a bit up their own arses because of your initial resistance (obviously I have no idea of how you 'discussed' it with them). I have my fair share of negative stories re: rescue centres and had my own run ins but there are reasonable ones out there. I just felt that in your case their request of getting insurance was a comparatively mild one compared to the stipulations that some rescues have.

Old Tyke

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288 posts

86 months

Thursday 16th March 2017
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I've already started making enquiries about a red female staffy in S Yorks who is looking for new home. It's a private ad but also listed on the local rescue centre site as well. She's 5 years old which is older than I'd ideally like but she's a real cutie and very placid from what the owner has told me. I'm going to give this other place 24 hours to see if they have a rethink and decide that rehoming an innocent animal is more important than insisting on worthless bits of paper, but if common sense doesn't prevail then I'll be heading down to S Yorks over the weekend smile.

Old Tyke

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288 posts

86 months

Friday 17th March 2017
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thumbup Hallelujah! Common sense has prevailed and a "special exception" has been made. I collect her tomorrow. spin

alfie2244

11,292 posts

188 months

Friday 17th March 2017
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Old Tyke said:
thumbup Hallelujah! Common sense has prevailed and a "special exception" has been made. I collect her tomorrow. spin
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garythesign

2,091 posts

88 months

Friday 17th March 2017
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Old Tyke said:
thumbup Hallelujah! Common sense has prevailed and a "special exception" has been made. I collect her tomorrow. spin
That's great news.

Perseverance has paid off

bexVN

14,682 posts

211 months

Friday 17th March 2017
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