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shocks said:
Well done Dave_GLA! Love a happy outcome.
A wee update on our journey, sadly our Welsh D has arthritis in both hocks; he went unsound a few months ago after many months of working with vets, xrays, steroid injections, and subsequent treatments haven't worked out. We have two choices, life as a happy hacker or PTS.
To make the choice harder, he's on the idiot side of the welsh D lines (loveable git that he is) and will eat himself to death if just put to pasture, he's colic'd in the past and lammi is a real threat if we put him out of work. Life really is s
t as love this big guy, I'm still fizzing mad as we only bought him a year ago, the horse world is indeed full of charlatans, and I have a very distraught 16-year-old daughter as the future looks grim for Jack, the previous owners would have known and have hidden this - as the vet put it his hocks are those of 22 yr old not a 10 yr old.
Why was this not picked up before? he was 5 stage vetted, could have had injections done before we got him and we didn't x-ray before buying.... think our biggest lesson here is putting trust in folks too easily.
Don’t get me started on vetting! It’s a scam built for the benefit of the vets and insurers alone. Like a car mot it only represents the condition at the time. If you buy it and its head falls off then tough luck. Infuriates me.A wee update on our journey, sadly our Welsh D has arthritis in both hocks; he went unsound a few months ago after many months of working with vets, xrays, steroid injections, and subsequent treatments haven't worked out. We have two choices, life as a happy hacker or PTS.
To make the choice harder, he's on the idiot side of the welsh D lines (loveable git that he is) and will eat himself to death if just put to pasture, he's colic'd in the past and lammi is a real threat if we put him out of work. Life really is s
t as love this big guy, I'm still fizzing mad as we only bought him a year ago, the horse world is indeed full of charlatans, and I have a very distraught 16-year-old daughter as the future looks grim for Jack, the previous owners would have known and have hidden this - as the vet put it his hocks are those of 22 yr old not a 10 yr old. Why was this not picked up before? he was 5 stage vetted, could have had injections done before we got him and we didn't x-ray before buying.... think our biggest lesson here is putting trust in folks too easily.
Vets are so scared of legal proceedings they will never give an educated, risk based view; and that’s wrong.
I’ve said that I won’t get another vetting done unless I’m putting 5 figures into a horse. I will do bloods to check for doping and X-rays to make sure they aren’t screwed together. That and an up to date passport is all the average, semi-competitive rider and horse needs. But I too am fizzing with vetting. I’ve ploughed £4k into vetting alone and not bought a horse, all it does is carry that negative equity into the one you do buy and it makes a cheap horse extremely expensive at the initial outlay.
Also, we move in similar circles of yards, dealers, locale and honesty is not at the top of any dealers list. I’ll leave it there as I know you’re close to the same people I am
Anyway, this Welsh D we have again is also a bin, he just looks at pasture or food and outs 50kg on. I feel his pain!
K50 DEL said:
So then this happened........
A few weekends ago I get a call.. "I'm competing at the Almondsbury show, would you like to come?"
I had nothing on, and Almondsbury's not that far away so I popped along.
Glad I did as she only went and won her first ever trophy!
I'm not sure she completely took in the fact that it'll be returned next year and have her and the horse's names engraved on it for all-time.
I still remember the first pot I won when I started rallying in 2003 so I have some idea of how much it meant to her. A lovely thing to witness.
No riding this weekend - away camping at some kind of car show apparently!
The jiffle king said:
I dread us buying our next horse. I think we would go and see it a few times so it could not be doped and also have it ridden a few times
We would likely only buy from one of the people we know as the vetting process does not fill me with confidence
Getting would test for doping.We would likely only buy from one of the people we know as the vetting process does not fill me with confidence
The next horse journey begins. Connie or Welsh D, road trip to see the first options this weekend.
There is a big Irish sale coming up in a couple of weeks, so looking out for connies coming up there. I have a friend from Galway whose family bred them and is steering us through the connies.
In the meantime, Jack, our lovely Welsh D, we are looking to find a happy hacker home. Daughter remains gutted.
The jiffle king said:
I dread us buying our next horse. I think we would go and see it a few times so it could not be doped and also have it ridden a few times
We would likely only buy from one of the people we know as the vetting process does not fill me with confidence
Agree with the other advice here. Our checklist is this :We would likely only buy from one of the people we know as the vetting process does not fill me with confidence
- Ride x2 / Jump
- Check on history; disclose any colic/laminitis or sarcoids etc
- Price - over 10k 5 stage + x-ray (insurance requirement), under 10k test for doping
Vetting can get super expensive and convinced that while our last past vetting that he had hock injections, not bute and unlikely to have shown up in checks; only xrays would have shown up issues, and that gets pricey fast.
Our last was bought from what we thought was a reputable yard and came via a BHS & Endurance veteran in the highlands.
shocks said:
The jiffle king said:
I dread us buying our next horse. I think we would go and see it a few times so it could not be doped and also have it ridden a few times
We would likely only buy from one of the people we know as the vetting process does not fill me with confidence
Agree with the other advice here. Our checklist is this :We would likely only buy from one of the people we know as the vetting process does not fill me with confidence
- Ride x2 / Jump
- Check on history; disclose any colic/laminitis or sarcoids etc
- Price - over 10k 5 stage + x-ray (insurance requirement), under 10k test for doping
Vetting can get super expensive and convinced that while our last past vetting that he had hock injections, not bute and unlikely to have shown up in checks; only xrays would have shown up issues, and that gets pricey fast.
Our last was bought from what we thought was a reputable yard and came via a BHS & Endurance veteran in the highlands.
I honestly think we would go to a local yard who have about 150 horses as having trust is a massive thing for us
Vetting can take you so far but doping, bute, injections etc are all things which seem to be done by less reputable sellers
I think they are beautiful, don't even mind an experience day, but have no desire to own one of my own!
Had our 18month old on a donkey at the weekend, and she absolutely loved it. Two days and 3x £4 rides later she keeps doing the 'horse' baby sign language and holding her hands like she's on the saddle again. Oops.
Had our 18month old on a donkey at the weekend, and she absolutely loved it. Two days and 3x £4 rides later she keeps doing the 'horse' baby sign language and holding her hands like she's on the saddle again. Oops.
dhutch said:
I think they are beautiful, don't even mind an experience day, but have no desire to own one of my own!
Had our 18month old on a donkey at the weekend, and she absolutely loved it. Two days and 3x £4 rides later she keeps doing the 'horse' baby sign language and holding her hands like she's on the saddle again. Oops.
That could be a very expensive donkey ride Had our 18month old on a donkey at the weekend, and she absolutely loved it. Two days and 3x £4 rides later she keeps doing the 'horse' baby sign language and holding her hands like she's on the saddle again. Oops.
They are amazing creatures and they give good excuse to buy tractors and other cool machinery (Much spreader, sprayer, rollers, topper, flail, bale spike etc|)
The jiffle king said:
dhutch said:
I think they are beautiful, don't even mind an experience day, but have no desire to own one of my own!
Had our 18month old on a donkey at the weekend, and she absolutely loved it. Two days and 3x £4 rides later she keeps doing the 'horse' baby sign language and holding her hands like she's on the saddle again. Oops.
That could be a very expensive donkey ride Had our 18month old on a donkey at the weekend, and she absolutely loved it. Two days and 3x £4 rides later she keeps doing the 'horse' baby sign language and holding her hands like she's on the saddle again. Oops.
They are amazing creatures and they give good excuse to buy tractors and other cool machinery (Much spreader, sprayer, rollers, topper, flail, bale spike etc|)
Well up for an excuse to own a tractor (David Brown would be my first choice) and various implements to go with, and already have a vintage mini digger. However surely it's the field (and Horse) that is the expensive part of the excuse not the tractor!
I’ve been quite foolish recently having brought 4 horses and ponies over the past two months, one directly from Ireland having just seen videos and the others just driving to see, one was test ridden and the other two unbroken 3 year olds. We have the space at our yard and are interested in bringing on. None were vetted but the most expensive was 6K and the others much less so we have taken a bit of a gamble and obviously hope we don’t encounter any significant issues. Touch wood all are ok so far and the Irish one is a complete sweetheart.
We have vetted in the past and I think if spending lots would do so in the future.
We have vetted in the past and I think if spending lots would do so in the future.
Yes still here with a now 18 year old Gelding who is doing a dressage show this weekend but really loves to Jump and canter
Got a load of farm work to do this summer but would love to hear what people have been up to
- Had a horse put it's foot through the side of our indoor manege (Horse ok and fixed the manege
- found Jelka mud mats really work.... yes really work
- Fixed our Ford 4600 tractor and used it to move loads of hay
Summer plan is much more extensive
Got a load of farm work to do this summer but would love to hear what people have been up to
- Had a horse put it's foot through the side of our indoor manege (Horse ok and fixed the manege
- found Jelka mud mats really work.... yes really work
- Fixed our Ford 4600 tractor and used it to move loads of hay
Summer plan is much more extensive
Have a tractor related question if anyone is able to help
We are in need of small front loader tractor for occasional use (Loading the muck spreader, shifting stuff about. We have a 75HP Ford 4600 so we use that for topping, harrowing and moving the 350kg bales of hay.
So looking at options
Thinking about a Kubota EK1- 261 with front loader or a Solis 26 or a Farmtrac....
We would likely also get a small hedge flail or similar
We really are not going to be putting loads of hours on it hence looking at the cheaper end of the market. A couple of questions:
- Is 24/26 HP enough for most jobs given I have a larger vehicle
- Any real life experience of the above?
- Any other recommendations?
Thanks in advance
We are in need of small front loader tractor for occasional use (Loading the muck spreader, shifting stuff about. We have a 75HP Ford 4600 so we use that for topping, harrowing and moving the 350kg bales of hay.
So looking at options
Thinking about a Kubota EK1- 261 with front loader or a Solis 26 or a Farmtrac....
We would likely also get a small hedge flail or similar
We really are not going to be putting loads of hours on it hence looking at the cheaper end of the market. A couple of questions:
- Is 24/26 HP enough for most jobs given I have a larger vehicle
- Any real life experience of the above?
- Any other recommendations?
Thanks in advance
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