Rehoming a dog - seemingly impossible
Discussion
Defcon5 said:
Simpo Two said:
Stopping imports of dogs from overseas might help a bit.
I do agree, however i feel the hoops one must jump through to rehome a dog from a UK place are strangely high.As for not bringing dogs from overseas, why are UK rescues any more valuable than European rescues?
CheesecakeRunner said:
Gareth1974 said:
-Cappo- said:
Gareth1974 said:
-Cappo- said:
OP, I'm going to PM you, give me an hour or two.
Thank you dhutch said:
Defcon5 said:
Simpo Two said:
Stopping imports of dogs from overseas might help a bit.
I do agree, however i feel the hoops one must jump through to rehome a dog from a UK place are strangely high.As for not bringing dogs from overseas, why are UK rescues any more valuable than European rescues?
Zio Di Roma said:
vaud said:
Post pandemic issue. Lots of people got dogs. Now people forced back to the office / didn't realise dogs grew up, needed walking etc
Try local town/village facebook groups?
This. It annoyed me at the time, how moronic people were being and it annoys me now.Try local town/village facebook groups?
It was also interesting during lockdowns, the amount of dogs that I saw being walked in my area, many of which would be non-lockdown dogs, given their apparent age, these are dogs that I had never seen before which would say to me that pre-lockdown they had never been, or rarely, walked.
renmure said:
Petrus1983 said:
I wasn't allowed to adopt a dog because I don't have a garden - I explained my circumstances and it was still a firm no.
I wasn’t allowed to adopt a Great Dane after a home visit despite already having 2 Danes and having a 20 year history of owning Danes because there wasn’t a 1.8m fence enclosing my garden. We lived in the countryside, surrounded by fields and woodland and the garden itself was over 5 acres. vaud said:
Post pandemic issue. Lots of people got dogs. Now people forced back to the office / didn't realise dogs grew up, needed walking etc
Try local town/village facebook groups?
100% this.Try local town/village facebook groups?
Thousands of utterly, utterly, brain-dead pillocks rushed out to buy dogs during lockdown, often paying huge amounts for them, and then completely failed to consider what might happen when they had to go back to work.
For the last 12 months and more, thousands of unwanted pets are suffering and being offloaded.
I cannot adequately describe my contempt for people who are this stupid or uncaring.
ukwill said:
There is absolutely no way I would put a healthy pet down. Absolutely no way.
Completely this. Being his size, he's not going to go on for too many more years. Why deprive him of his life? I couldn't bear to do such a thing.OP. No promises, but where in the Midlands, roughly are you? (East Mids, Leics, Derbs etc)
Also, how is he with Dogs, and cats?
Any medical problems, special dietary requirements?
Edited by Fermit on Thursday 11th April 09:58
borcy said:
dhutch said:
Defcon5 said:
Simpo Two said:
Stopping imports of dogs from overseas might help a bit.
I do agree, however i feel the hoops one must jump through to rehome a dog from a UK place are strangely high.As for not bringing dogs from overseas, why are UK rescues any more valuable than European rescues?
- The dog not having the best life ever, and or the risk of them ended up back at a rehoming centre.
- The dog causing a nuisance and or there being any risk of the dog harming a human being some point.
Which I totally understand, they do have a a duty of care to ensure both a reasonable likelihood of a good outcome and a reasonably low risk of a significantly bad outcome.
The later is obviously why rehoming to any home with any children is basically completely out, and the former is why anyone who ever lives the house, lives without a large and completely dog proof garden, or is old enough they cant run a marathon or might not out live the dog, is right out.
The problem is that basically leaves nobody. Because the number of people who are of working age but aren't working, that also have a good house and garden and fence, that have a lot of free time but are fit health and not of retirement age, is pretty bloody slim. Especially if you then need to add 100% assurance that nothing bad will ever happen at all, full stop.
The irony is, this then means a huge number of dogs never leave, and the entire system grinds to a haul, and people end up having to do dog swaps on facebook marketplace!
My 36 yo dog loving mate, who currently walks a less able neighbours Alsatian, has no dependants and is self employed so could be with the dog basically 24/7/265, had a huge network of dog owning friends. and goes on a decent jog at least once a day, its absolutely completely right out for ever, because he lives on a boat and hence doesn't have a garden. The 2000miles of dog friendly tow path he lives against, and the national network of public footpaths and woodland that connects to, being completely irrelevant.
dhutch said:
My 36 yo dog loving mate, who currently walks a less able neighbours Alsatian, has no dependants and is self employed so could be with the dog basically 24/7/265, had a huge network of dog owning friends. and goes on a decent jog at least once a day, its absolutely completely right out for ever, because he lives on a boat and hence doesn't have a garden. The 2000miles of dog friendly tow path he lives against, and the national network of public footpaths and woodland that connects to, being completely irrelevant.
Well, if the rescue centres deem him not fit for a dog, but he'd like one, then I say this boy would prefer to spend his remaining years being a boat dog than dead. Speak to him?Damn don't put the poor old boy "down". Given his size he's surely only got 18-24mths left, perhaps a bit more if you get lucky (or less in OPs case). Can't you just keep him since you have come this far? I get dogs are a tiedown but he has lived most of his life.
Anyway if you must get rid, given shelters are overwhelmed with covid dogs now many have to go back onsite for work, I'd suggest putting the legwork in with his story on the facebook groups and even on here. Don't put the bit about him being euthanised in as that makes you look like a heartless non animal lover and detracts from the fact that the dog appears to have been well loved and is gentle and loving. Don't forget to mention if the dog is good with cats and kids, big bonus if so.
Anyway if you must get rid, given shelters are overwhelmed with covid dogs now many have to go back onsite for work, I'd suggest putting the legwork in with his story on the facebook groups and even on here. Don't put the bit about him being euthanised in as that makes you look like a heartless non animal lover and detracts from the fact that the dog appears to have been well loved and is gentle and loving. Don't forget to mention if the dog is good with cats and kids, big bonus if so.
A friend of ours had the same trying to adopt a dog - they were new to dogs so just went out and bought everything they thought a dog might want including a crate. When the rehoming centre saw the crate on the video tour of their home (this was during Covid) they said no and wouldn't consider our friend again even if they got rid of the crate.
MesoForm said:
A friend of ours had the same trying to adopt a dog - they were new to dogs so just went out and bought everything they thought a dog might want including a crate. When the rehoming centre saw the crate on the video tour of their home (this was during Covid) they said no and wouldn't consider our friend again even if they got rid of the crate.
The animal charities can be very pragmatic, or the odder side of odd in my experience.The cat charities who say "no small children"... in most cases how on earth do they know?
MesoForm said:
A friend of ours had the same trying to adopt a dog - they were new to dogs so just went out and bought everything they thought a dog might want including a crate. When the rehoming centre saw the crate on the video tour of their home (this was during Covid) they said no and wouldn't consider our friend again even if they got rid of the crate.
What is this crate thing that goes on now? When I was younger we had a dog, as did most of my friends, none of us ever saw or heard of crates. Our dogs slept in dog beds?!?To be fair when I got a dog during Covid (but mine is well loved and cared for..) I tried to rehome a dog from various charities and even tried to get one from abroad without any luck.
The UK based rehoming centres would not consider us as we had small kids, cats and no dog experience. We had more luck getting one from abroad but the first old boy we were interested in died before he made it here (
) and another younger was going to cost £1500 in fees to get him from Turkey. I specifically wanted a Golden Retriever.
In the end there was a lady in next hamlet along from ours who was breeding her "working" pedigree Golden Retriever and we bought a puppy for not a lot more than the Turkey dog. A shame as I really wanted to give a dog in need a home however I love my dog and have had the benefit from having her as a pup. She is a lovely nature and I intend to bread her next year so that I can keep a pup and the bloodline in my family. Rightly or wrongly maybe but that is now the path I am on.
The UK based rehoming centres would not consider us as we had small kids, cats and no dog experience. We had more luck getting one from abroad but the first old boy we were interested in died before he made it here (
) and another younger was going to cost £1500 in fees to get him from Turkey. I specifically wanted a Golden Retriever.In the end there was a lady in next hamlet along from ours who was breeding her "working" pedigree Golden Retriever and we bought a puppy for not a lot more than the Turkey dog. A shame as I really wanted to give a dog in need a home however I love my dog and have had the benefit from having her as a pup. She is a lovely nature and I intend to bread her next year so that I can keep a pup and the bloodline in my family. Rightly or wrongly maybe but that is now the path I am on.
dhutch said:
As far as I can see they are worried about just about everything, but predominantly:
- The dog not having the best life ever, and or the risk of them ended up back at a rehoming centre.
- The dog causing a nuisance and or there being any risk of the dog harming a human being some point.
Which I totally understand, they do have a a duty of care to ensure both a reasonable likelihood of a good outcome and a reasonably low risk of a significantly bad outcome.
The later is obviously why rehoming to any home with any children is basically completely out, and the former is why anyone who ever lives the house, lives without a large and completely dog proof garden, or is old enough they cant run a marathon or might not out live the dog, is right out.
The problem is that basically leaves nobody. Because the number of people who are of working age but aren't working, that also have a good house and garden and fence, that have a lot of free time but are fit health and not of retirement age, is pretty bloody slim. Especially if you then need to add 100% assurance that nothing bad will ever happen at all, full stop.
The irony is, this then means a huge number of dogs never leave, and the entire system grinds to a haul, and people end up having to do dog swaps on facebook marketplace!
My 36 yo dog loving mate, who currently walks a less able neighbours Alsatian, has no dependants and is self employed so could be with the dog basically 24/7/265, had a huge network of dog owning friends. and goes on a decent jog at least once a day, its absolutely completely right out for ever, because he lives on a boat and hence doesn't have a garden. The 2000miles of dog friendly tow path he lives against, and the national network of public footpaths and woodland that connects to, being completely irrelevant.
Seems potty, i wonder if these places will ever put 2 and 2 together. - The dog not having the best life ever, and or the risk of them ended up back at a rehoming centre.
- The dog causing a nuisance and or there being any risk of the dog harming a human being some point.
Which I totally understand, they do have a a duty of care to ensure both a reasonable likelihood of a good outcome and a reasonably low risk of a significantly bad outcome.
The later is obviously why rehoming to any home with any children is basically completely out, and the former is why anyone who ever lives the house, lives without a large and completely dog proof garden, or is old enough they cant run a marathon or might not out live the dog, is right out.
The problem is that basically leaves nobody. Because the number of people who are of working age but aren't working, that also have a good house and garden and fence, that have a lot of free time but are fit health and not of retirement age, is pretty bloody slim. Especially if you then need to add 100% assurance that nothing bad will ever happen at all, full stop.
The irony is, this then means a huge number of dogs never leave, and the entire system grinds to a haul, and people end up having to do dog swaps on facebook marketplace!
My 36 yo dog loving mate, who currently walks a less able neighbours Alsatian, has no dependants and is self employed so could be with the dog basically 24/7/265, had a huge network of dog owning friends. and goes on a decent jog at least once a day, its absolutely completely right out for ever, because he lives on a boat and hence doesn't have a garden. The 2000miles of dog friendly tow path he lives against, and the national network of public footpaths and woodland that connects to, being completely irrelevant.
MrBig said:
What is this crate thing that goes on now? When I was younger we had a dog, as did most of my friends, none of us ever saw or heard of crates. Our dogs slept in dog beds?!?
Some dogs prefer crates to sleep, and some dogs need them to train them to be 'clean' across the night.Gassing Station | All Creatures Great & Small | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff