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I'll direct you to the thread title... "Its Caturday - Post Some Cats (Vol 2)" ...and feel entirely justified when I ask you to point out where it suggests that the thread is solely for 'Cat Lovers'.
In fact, if I were a pedant, and was to take the thread title at face value, I might be tempted to actually post some cats...
(yeah, I know. Couldn't find one for the Lion
)
[google]"Customs regulations for the export of live domestic animals"[/google] ...now where did I leave those crates again?
In fact, if I were a pedant, and was to take the thread title at face value, I might be tempted to actually post some cats...
(yeah, I know. Couldn't find one for the Lion
)[google]"Customs regulations for the export of live domestic animals"[/google] ...now where did I leave those crates again?
yellowjack said:
Hmmm 
Cars seem to be an essential element of modern life. If they weren't essential, someone would find a way to ban them.
Cats, however, are a selfish luxury item, kept in their trillions by some obsessed owners. And the garden birds I've scooped up off the lawn seldom look very 'eaten' to me. At least if I hit a bird in my car, I have the decency to feel guilty over it. How many "moggies" do you know which might even understand the concept of guilt? Nope. Thought not. Murdering furballs
On the subject of killing animals on roads, I recall a home made sign I cycled past in rural Suffolk, on a well sighted section of NSL single carriageway, imploring drivers to "Slow down! Cats cross this road!" More locally, in Farnborough, there were signs up on lampposts begging for help in identifying the 'reckless' driver who ran over someone's cat. Now there's a damned good reason why hitting a cat is a non-reportable accident, unlike hitting livestock, or a dog. That's because there is a legal responsibility on owners of dogs and livestock to keep control of their animals. Cat owners in general seem quite happy to allow their animals out to roam freely, s
tting in my flower beds, clawing the roof of my car, and generally decimating local bird life (four neighbouring houses have between them eight cats), yet if poor Tiddles gets squished all over the Jct 4A bypass, apparently the driver is 'despicable'. The fact is, if cat owners are unwilling to take control of the activities of their pets, don't expect legal protection when the puss commits Harakiri on a busy highway. It's a reasonable trade off.
Aside from bells, which don't work, how would you train a cat not to hunt?Cars seem to be an essential element of modern life. If they weren't essential, someone would find a way to ban them.
Cats, however, are a selfish luxury item, kept in their trillions by some obsessed owners. And the garden birds I've scooped up off the lawn seldom look very 'eaten' to me. At least if I hit a bird in my car, I have the decency to feel guilty over it. How many "moggies" do you know which might even understand the concept of guilt? Nope. Thought not. Murdering furballs
On the subject of killing animals on roads, I recall a home made sign I cycled past in rural Suffolk, on a well sighted section of NSL single carriageway, imploring drivers to "Slow down! Cats cross this road!" More locally, in Farnborough, there were signs up on lampposts begging for help in identifying the 'reckless' driver who ran over someone's cat. Now there's a damned good reason why hitting a cat is a non-reportable accident, unlike hitting livestock, or a dog. That's because there is a legal responsibility on owners of dogs and livestock to keep control of their animals. Cat owners in general seem quite happy to allow their animals out to roam freely, s
tting in my flower beds, clawing the roof of my car, and generally decimating local bird life (four neighbouring houses have between them eight cats), yet if poor Tiddles gets squished all over the Jct 4A bypass, apparently the driver is 'despicable'. The fact is, if cat owners are unwilling to take control of the activities of their pets, don't expect legal protection when the puss commits Harakiri on a busy highway. It's a reasonable trade off. sleep envy said:
yellowjack said:
Hmmm
Cars seem to be an essential element of modern life. If they weren't essential, someone would find a way to ban them.
Cats, however, are a selfish luxury item, kept in their trillions by some obsessed owners. And the garden birds I've scooped up off the lawn seldom look very 'eaten' to me. At least if I hit a bird in my car, I have the decency to feel guilty over it. How many "moggies" do you know which might even understand the concept of guilt? Nope. Thought not. Murdering furballs
On the subject of killing animals on roads, I recall a home made sign I cycled past in rural Suffolk, on a well sighted section of NSL single carriageway, imploring drivers to "Slow down! Cats cross this road!" More locally, in Farnborough, there were signs up on lampposts begging for help in identifying the 'reckless' driver who ran over someone's cat. Now there's a damned good reason why hitting a cat is a non-reportable accident, unlike hitting livestock, or a dog. That's because there is a legal responsibility on owners of dogs and livestock to keep control of their animals. Cat owners in general seem quite happy to allow their animals out to roam freely, stting in my flower beds, clawing the roof of my car, and generally decimating local bird life (four neighbouring houses have between them eight cats), yet if poor Tiddles gets squished all over the Jct 4A bypass, apparently the driver is 'despicable'. The fact is, if cat owners are unwilling to take control of the activities of their pets, don't expect legal protection when the puss commits Harakiri on a busy highway. It's a reasonable trade off.
Aside from bells, which don't work, how would you train a cat not to hunt?Cars seem to be an essential element of modern life. If they weren't essential, someone would find a way to ban them.
Cats, however, are a selfish luxury item, kept in their trillions by some obsessed owners. And the garden birds I've scooped up off the lawn seldom look very 'eaten' to me. At least if I hit a bird in my car, I have the decency to feel guilty over it. How many "moggies" do you know which might even understand the concept of guilt? Nope. Thought not. Murdering furballs
On the subject of killing animals on roads, I recall a home made sign I cycled past in rural Suffolk, on a well sighted section of NSL single carriageway, imploring drivers to "Slow down! Cats cross this road!" More locally, in Farnborough, there were signs up on lampposts begging for help in identifying the 'reckless' driver who ran over someone's cat. Now there's a damned good reason why hitting a cat is a non-reportable accident, unlike hitting livestock, or a dog. That's because there is a legal responsibility on owners of dogs and livestock to keep control of their animals. Cat owners in general seem quite happy to allow their animals out to roam freely, s
tting in my flower beds, clawing the roof of my car, and generally decimating local bird life (four neighbouring houses have between them eight cats), yet if poor Tiddles gets squished all over the Jct 4A bypass, apparently the driver is 'despicable'. The fact is, if cat owners are unwilling to take control of the activities of their pets, don't expect legal protection when the puss commits Harakiri on a busy highway. It's a reasonable trade off. 
yellowjack said:
I'll direct you to the thread title... "Its Caturday - Post Some Cats (Vol 2)" ...and feel entirely justified when I ask you to point out where it suggests that the thread is solely for 'Cat Lovers'.
And there's nothing in the titles of most of the threads in Pedal Powered to say that they aren't the place to start trolling about RLJ or wearing lycra or riding two abreast, but it wouldn't really be appropriate to pollute The daily "I cycled to work" thread or The "what bike bits have you just bought" thread with that sort of thing, would it?otolith said:
And there's nothing in the titles of most of the threads in Pedal Powered to say that they aren't the place to start trolling about RLJ or wearing lycra or riding two abreast, but it wouldn't really be appropriate to pollute The daily "I cycled to work" thread or The "what bike bits have you just bought" thread with that sort of thing, would it?
Blimey! A cat affectionado and a bike rider. I thought I was unique.sleep envy said:
You also say that owners should take control of their cat's activities. How would you suggest an owner go about that?
Hmmm. 1. Nail the catflap shut
2. Lock the doors
3. Fence the garden properly (one of my neighbours, now sadly moved away, kept his cats in a large aviary type run, with covered housing at one end)
4. A collar and lead for walks/exercise (oh, and a little black bag so that you can take the turds home with you, and they don't end up among my Petunias
)There's a start for you. Funnily enough, all things that have been tried with a fair degree of success by dog owners
Or I could just stop now, as I feel I've made my point...
You can all get back to going gooey over Tiddles now.
Content.
My mate said
"I hate cats"
"Why?" I ask
"Dunno, they sleep too much"
"Compared to what?"
"Humans"
"Oh. Have you ever watched Africa Safari programs on TV. The animals sleep, eat and then sleep. It's what animals do."
"Yeah, but my dog don't sleep all day."
"No. Because they're waiting for you to feed them, pick up their poo and take them out for walkies. To poo more. For you to pick up"
Negative Creep said:
Anyone got some tips for getting cat vomit out of a carpet? Had 2 attempts at removing the stain from last night's "accident" using Vanish carpet cleaner but no joy.
We find Vanish (the specific carpet cleaner stuff, that comes out in a foam) works very well. Results improved if you catch it quickly. Clean up what you can with kitchen roll, get an old rag or t-shirt, wet with warm water and scrub at the affected area. Give it a squirt with the Vanish and leave for a few minutes. Scrub with the old rag/t-shirt again. Leave for about half an hour then hoover.Sometimes we find we have to repeat the above process but often it just takes a bit of time to dry...
lenats31 said:
We have 4 cats. They used to run free. After we lost one to unknown destiny, and to keep neighbour´s stupid cat that hates two of our cats off our premises. We keep ours in an enclosed garden -it can be done. That way, they wont annoy neighbours. They seem happy with that.
I'm interested in this, the enclosed garden thing - we've got two cats we'd like to let into the garden but no further (they're indoor cats at present). Have you found any sort of fencing or the like to keep cats in/out?8bit said:
I'm interested in this, the enclosed garden thing - we've got two cats we'd like to let into the garden but no further (they're indoor cats at present). Have you found any sort of fencing or the like to keep cats in/out?
The safest sort of enclosure is a fully enclosed one. When we lived in a different area we used to foster homeless cats for the Cats Protection. We had a couple of fully enclosed pens and I have actually seen a panicking cat run across the ceiling of the netting, so open top enclosures are NFG.An enclosure is an excellent compromise, they can go out and have fresh air, enjoy watching the wild life etc, but they won't catch diseases and they won't get run over, or hurt by cat haters, kids with air rifles, other cats etc.
How about training the cats not to leave the garden?
When I first got mine I used to wait for it to go down the alleyway and then I'd jump out and shout whilst chasing it back down. The rare occasions I've seen him out the front I've done the same.
In three years I've seen him out front a handful of times.
When I first got mine I used to wait for it to go down the alleyway and then I'd jump out and shout whilst chasing it back down. The rare occasions I've seen him out the front I've done the same.
In three years I've seen him out front a handful of times.
GTIR said:
How about training the cats not to leave the garden?
When I first got mine I used to wait for it to go down the alleyway and then I'd jump out and shout whilst chasing it back down. The rare occasions I've seen him out the front I've done the same.
In three years I've seen him out front a handful of times.
You must look like a right pillock. I bet the cat is laughing. If not the neighbours will be! When I first got mine I used to wait for it to go down the alleyway and then I'd jump out and shout whilst chasing it back down. The rare occasions I've seen him out the front I've done the same.
In three years I've seen him out front a handful of times.
yellowjack said:
motco said:
As car owners, I suspect we kill a fair number of birds on the roads but, unlike our moggies, we don't do them the courtesy of eating them!
Hmmm Cars seem to be an essential element of modern life. If they weren't essential, someone would find a way to ban them.
Cats, however, are a selfish luxury item, kept in their trillions by some obsessed owners. And the garden birds I've scooped up off the lawn seldom look very 'eaten' to me. At least if I hit a bird in my car, I have the decency to feel guilty over it. How many "moggies" do you know which might even understand the concept of guilt? Nope. Thought not. Murdering furballs
On the subject of killing animals on roads, I recall a home made sign I cycled past in rural Suffolk, on a well sighted section of NSL single carriageway, imploring drivers to "Slow down! Cats cross this road!" More locally, in Farnborough, there were signs up on lampposts begging for help in identifying the 'reckless' driver who ran over someone's cat. Now there's a damned good reason why hitting a cat is a non-reportable accident, unlike hitting livestock, or a dog. That's because there is a legal responsibility on owners of dogs and livestock to keep control of their animals. Cat owners in general seem quite happy to allow their animals out to roam freely, s
tting in my flower beds, clawing the roof of my car, and generally decimating local bird life (four neighbouring houses have between them eight cats), yet if poor Tiddles gets squished all over the Jct 4A bypass, apparently the driver is 'despicable'. The fact is, if cat owners are unwilling to take control of the activities of their pets, don't expect legal protection when the puss commits Harakiri on a busy highway. It's a reasonable trade off. Dogs domesticated centuries ago to protect humans from unwanted *big* intruders and disease. They bark or bite the badman or fox that will harm your family or foodstore. And in return, you give them a small meal. The success of the human race, in biological terms, is in a small way partly attributable to the service of dogs. We owe a lot to dogs. They are a smart and succesful species.
yellowjack said:
sleep envy said:
You also say that owners should take control of their cat's activities. How would you suggest an owner go about that?
Hmmm. 1. Nail the catflap shut
2. Lock the doors
3. Fence the garden properly (one of my neighbours, now sadly moved away, kept his cats in a large aviary type run, with covered housing at one end)
4. A collar and lead for walks/exercise (oh, and a little black bag so that you can take the turds home with you, and they don't end up among my Petunias
)There's a start for you. Funnily enough, all things that have been tried with a fair degree of success by dog owners
Or I could just stop now, as I feel I've made my point...
You can all get back to going gooey over Tiddles now.
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8bit said:
I'm interested in this, the enclosed garden thing - we've got two cats we'd like to let into the garden but no further (they're indoor cats at present). Have you found any sort of fencing or the like to keep cats in/out?
Like thishttp://www.fagan.dk/andet/indhegningen.htm
Lost my male kitten Archi (short for Archimedes) yesterday, run over on the road outside my house
Looking over the bainister by MBBlat, on Flickr
Only 9 months old which is far too young
Looking over the bainister by MBBlat, on FlickrOnly 9 months old which is far too young
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