Discussion
yellowjack said:
motco said:
As car owners, I suspect we kill a fair number of birds on the roads but, unlike our moggies, we don't do them the courtesy of eating them!
Hmmm Cars seem to be an essential element of modern life. If they weren't essential, someone would find a way to ban them.
Cats, however, are a selfish luxury item, kept in their trillions by some obsessed owners. And the garden birds I've scooped up off the lawn seldom look very 'eaten' to me. At least if I hit a bird in my car, I have the decency to feel guilty over it. How many "moggies" do you know which might even understand the concept of guilt? Nope. Thought not. Murdering furballs
On the subject of killing animals on roads, I recall a home made sign I cycled past in rural Suffolk, on a well sighted section of NSL single carriageway, imploring drivers to "Slow down! Cats cross this road!" More locally, in Farnborough, there were signs up on lampposts begging for help in identifying the 'reckless' driver who ran over someone's cat. Now there's a damned good reason why hitting a cat is a non-reportable accident, unlike hitting livestock, or a dog. That's because there is a legal responsibility on owners of dogs and livestock to keep control of their animals. Cat owners in general seem quite happy to allow their animals out to roam freely, stting in my flower beds, clawing the roof of my car, and generally decimating local bird life (four neighbouring houses have between them eight cats), yet if poor Tiddles gets squished all over the Jct 4A bypass, apparently the driver is 'despicable'. The fact is, if cat owners are unwilling to take control of the activities of their pets, don't expect legal protection when the puss commits Harakiri on a busy highway. It's a reasonable trade off.
Dogs domesticated centuries ago to protect humans from unwanted *big* intruders and disease. They bark or bite the badman or fox that will harm your family or foodstore. And in return, you give them a small meal. The success of the human race, in biological terms, is in a small way partly attributable to the service of dogs. We owe a lot to dogs. They are a smart and succesful species.
yellowjack said:
sleep envy said:
You also say that owners should take control of their cat's activities. How would you suggest an owner go about that?
Hmmm. 1. Nail the catflap shut
2. Lock the doors
3. Fence the garden properly (one of my neighbours, now sadly moved away, kept his cats in a large aviary type run, with covered housing at one end)
4. A collar and lead for walks/exercise (oh, and a little black bag so that you can take the turds home with you, and they don't end up among my Petunias )
There's a start for you. Funnily enough, all things that have been tried with a fair degree of success by dog owners
Or I could just stop now, as I feel I've made my point...
You can all get back to going gooey over Tiddles now.
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8bit said:
I'm interested in this, the enclosed garden thing - we've got two cats we'd like to let into the garden but no further (they're indoor cats at present). Have you found any sort of fencing or the like to keep cats in/out?
Like thishttp://www.fagan.dk/andet/indhegningen.htm
Lost my male kitten Archi (short for Archimedes) yesterday, run over on the road outside my house
Looking over the bainister by MBBlat, on Flickr
Only 9 months old which is far too young
Looking over the bainister by MBBlat, on Flickr
Only 9 months old which is far too young
yellowjack said:
sleep envy said:
You also say that owners should take control of their cat's activities. How would you suggest an owner go about that?
Hmmm. 1. Nail the catflap shut
2. Lock the doors
3. Fence the garden properly (one of my neighbours, now sadly moved away, kept his cats in a large aviary type run, with covered housing at one end)
4. A collar and lead for walks/exercise (oh, and a little black bag so that you can take the turds home with you, and they don't end up among my Petunias )
There's a start for you. Funnily enough, all things that have been tried with a fair degree of success by dog owners
Or I could just stop now, as I feel I've made my point...
You can all get back to going gooey over Tiddles now.
SuperDude said:
yellowjack said:
sleep envy said:
You also say that owners should take control of their cat's activities. How would you suggest an owner go about that?
Hmmm. 1. Nail the catflap shut
2. Lock the doors
3. Fence the garden properly (one of my neighbours, now sadly moved away, kept his cats in a large aviary type run, with covered housing at one end)
4. A collar and lead for walks/exercise (oh, and a little black bag so that you can take the turds home with you, and they don't end up among my Petunias )
There's a start for you. Funnily enough, all things that have been tried with a fair degree of success by dog owners
Or I could just stop now, as I feel I've made my point...
You can all get back to going gooey over Tiddles now.
Whoever will save poor me?
To MBBlat: For all the negative things I've said about cats, I'm very sorry to hear of the loss of Archimedes. Genuinely I am. It's never a pleasant experience to lose a pet, but when they grow old with us we at least have time to prepare ourselves for the inevitable.
I cannot hide the fact that I'm no cat lover, but I'd never wish harm on any of them.
yellowjack said:
Oh no! I'm being bullied online!
Whoever will save poor me?
To MBBlat: For all the negative things I've said about cats, I'm very sorry to hear of the loss of Archimedes. Genuinely I am. It's never a pleasant experience to lose a pet, but when they grow old with us we at least have time to prepare ourselves for the inevitable.
I cannot hide the fact that I'm no cat lover, but I'd never wish harm on any of them.
Good man. Dogs are pack hunters so they will always look for approval from their pack leader before they kill. Cats are solitary hunters, this is why you cannot train cats not to hunt.Whoever will save poor me?
To MBBlat: For all the negative things I've said about cats, I'm very sorry to hear of the loss of Archimedes. Genuinely I am. It's never a pleasant experience to lose a pet, but when they grow old with us we at least have time to prepare ourselves for the inevitable.
I cannot hide the fact that I'm no cat lover, but I'd never wish harm on any of them.
MBBlat said:
Lost my male kitten Archi (short for Archimedes) yesterday, run over on the road outside my house
Looking over the bainister by MBBlat, on Flickr
Only 9 months old which is far too young
Looking over the bainister by MBBlat, on Flickr
Only 9 months old which is far too young
Asterix said:
MBBlat said:
Lost my male kitten Archi (short for Archimedes) yesterday, run over on the road outside my house
Looking over the bainister by MBBlat, on Flickr
Only 9 months old which is far too young
Looking over the bainister by MBBlat, on Flickr
Only 9 months old which is far too young
irocfan said:
Asterix said:
MBBlat said:
Lost my male kitten Archi (short for Archimedes) yesterday, run over on the road outside my house
Looking over the bainister by MBBlat, on Flickr
Only 9 months old which is far too young
Looking over the bainister by MBBlat, on Flickr
Only 9 months old which is far too young
MBBlat said:
Lost my male kitten Archi (short for Archimedes) yesterday, run over on the road outside my house
Looking over the bainister by MBBlat, on Flickr
Only 9 months old which is far too young
Very sorry for your lossLooking over the bainister by MBBlat, on Flickr
Only 9 months old which is far too young
MBBlat said:
Lost my male kitten Archi (short for Archimedes) yesterday, run over on the road outside my house
Looking over the bainister by MBBlat, on Flickr
Only 9 months old which is far too young
poor little thing Looking over the bainister by MBBlat, on Flickr
Only 9 months old which is far too young
MBBlat said:
Lost my male kitten Archi (short for Archimedes) yesterday, run over on the road outside my house
Looking over the bainister by MBBlat, on Flickr
Only 9 months old which is far too young
It is FAR too young Looking over the bainister by MBBlat, on Flickr
Only 9 months old which is far too young
Sorry for your loss
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