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otolith

55,899 posts

203 months

Thursday 10th April 2014
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You can easily train a dog not to do something.

You can easily train a car not to get caught doing something.

lamboman100

1,445 posts

120 months

Friday 11th April 2014
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yellowjack said:
motco said:
As car owners, I suspect we kill a fair number of birds on the roads but, unlike our moggies, we don't do them the courtesy of eating them!
Hmmm scratchchin

Cars seem to be an essential element of modern life. If they weren't essential, someone would find a way to ban them.

Cats, however, are a selfish luxury item, kept in their trillions by some obsessed owners. And the garden birds I've scooped up off the lawn seldom look very 'eaten' to me. At least if I hit a bird in my car, I have the decency to feel guilty over it. How many "moggies" do you know which might even understand the concept of guilt? Nope. Thought not. Murdering furballs tongue out

On the subject of killing animals on roads, I recall a home made sign I cycled past in rural Suffolk, on a well sighted section of NSL single carriageway, imploring drivers to "Slow down! Cats cross this road!" More locally, in Farnborough, there were signs up on lampposts begging for help in identifying the 'reckless' driver who ran over someone's cat. Now there's a damned good reason why hitting a cat is a non-reportable accident, unlike hitting livestock, or a dog. That's because there is a legal responsibility on owners of dogs and livestock to keep control of their animals. Cat owners in general seem quite happy to allow their animals out to roam freely, stting in my flower beds, clawing the roof of my car, and generally decimating local bird life (four neighbouring houses have between them eight cats), yet if poor Tiddles gets squished all over the Jct 4A bypass, apparently the driver is 'despicable'. The fact is, if cat owners are unwilling to take control of the activities of their pets, don't expect legal protection when the puss commits Harakiri on a busy highway. It's a reasonable trade off.
Cats domesticated centuries ago to protect humans from unwanted *small* intruders and disease. They eat the rat, mouse or bird that will defecate in your home or contaminate your food. And in return, you give them a small meal. The success of the human race, in biological terms, is in a small way partly attributable to the service of cats. We owe a lot to cats. They are a smart and succesful species.

Dogs domesticated centuries ago to protect humans from unwanted *big* intruders and disease. They bark or bite the badman or fox that will harm your family or foodstore. And in return, you give them a small meal. The success of the human race, in biological terms, is in a small way partly attributable to the service of dogs. We owe a lot to dogs. They are a smart and succesful species.

motco

15,919 posts

245 months

Friday 11th April 2014
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yellowjack said:
sleep envy said:
You also say that owners should take control of their cat's activities. How would you suggest an owner go about that?
Hmmm. scratchchin

1. Nail the catflap shut
2. Lock the doors
3. Fence the garden properly (one of my neighbours, now sadly moved away, kept his cats in a large aviary type run, with covered housing at one end)
4. A collar and lead for walks/exercise (oh, and a little black bag so that you can take the turds home with you, and they don't end up among my Petunias wink )

There's a start for you. Funnily enough, all things that have been tried with a fair degree of success by dog owners tongue out


Or I could just stop now, as I feel I've made my point...




You can all get back to going gooey over Tiddles now.
PETUNIAS! You're a sodding gardener! Do you realise that many of the green stuff you nurture is bloody poisonous? All this lot:-

Acorn Creeping Charlie Hydrangea Mescal (Peyote) Pokeweed
Anemone Crocus, Autumn Iris Mistletoe Potato Sprouts
Angel Trumpet Daffodil Ivy, Boston Moonseed Primrose
Apple Seeds Daphne Jack in the Pulpit Monkshood Ranunculus
Apricot Pit Delphinium Jequirity Bean/Pea Morning Glory Rhododendron
Arrowhead Devil's Ivy (Pothos) Jerusalem Cherry Mushroom Rhubarb (Leaf)
Avacado Leaves Dieffenbachia Jasmine Narcissus Rosary Pea
Azaleas Elderberry Jimson Weed Nephthytis Star of Bethleham
Betel Nut Palm Elephant Ear Jonquil Nightshade Sweet Pea
Bittersweet English Ivy Lantana Camara Oleander Tobacco
Buckeye Four O'clock Larkspur Peach Seeds Tomato - Vines
Buttercups Foxglove Laurels Periwinkle Tulip
Caladium Hemlock, poison Lily of the Valley Philodendron Water Hemlock
Calla Lily Holly Berries Lobelia Poison Ivy Wisteria
Castor Bean Horsetail Reed Marijuana Poison Oak Yew
Chinese Lantern Hyacinth (bulbs) Mayapple Poppy

bandit

Asterix

24,438 posts

227 months

Friday 11th April 2014
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Bless 'em.


lenats31

438 posts

172 months

Friday 11th April 2014
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8bit said:
I'm interested in this, the enclosed garden thing - we've got two cats we'd like to let into the garden but no further (they're indoor cats at present). Have you found any sort of fencing or the like to keep cats in/out?
Like this

http://www.fagan.dk/andet/indhegningen.htm

MBBlat

1,601 posts

148 months

Sunday 13th April 2014
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Lost my male kitten Archi (short for Archimedes) yesterday, run over on the road outside my house
Looking over the bainister by MBBlat, on Flickr
frown

Only 9 months old which is far too young

Adz The Rat

13,944 posts

208 months

Sunday 13th April 2014
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Awh mate, thats horrible. So sorry to hear it, he looks a beautiful little cat.

Im so glad mine are house cats when I hear things like this.

SuperDude

2,348 posts

121 months

Sunday 13th April 2014
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yellowjack said:
sleep envy said:
You also say that owners should take control of their cat's activities. How would you suggest an owner go about that?
Hmmm. scratchchin

1. Nail the catflap shut
2. Lock the doors
3. Fence the garden properly (one of my neighbours, now sadly moved away, kept his cats in a large aviary type run, with covered housing at one end)
4. A collar and lead for walks/exercise (oh, and a little black bag so that you can take the turds home with you, and they don't end up among my Petunias wink )

There's a start for you. Funnily enough, all things that have been tried with a fair degree of success by dog owners tongue out


Or I could just stop now, as I feel I've made my point...




You can all get back to going gooey over Tiddles now.
Nerd.





rehab71

3,362 posts

189 months

Sunday 13th April 2014
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One of my sister in law's cats


yellowjack

17,065 posts

165 months

Sunday 13th April 2014
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SuperDude said:
yellowjack said:
sleep envy said:
You also say that owners should take control of their cat's activities. How would you suggest an owner go about that?
Hmmm. scratchchin

1. Nail the catflap shut
2. Lock the doors
3. Fence the garden properly (one of my neighbours, now sadly moved away, kept his cats in a large aviary type run, with covered housing at one end)
4. A collar and lead for walks/exercise (oh, and a little black bag so that you can take the turds home with you, and they don't end up among my Petunias wink )

There's a start for you. Funnily enough, all things that have been tried with a fair degree of success by dog owners tongue out


Or I could just stop now, as I feel I've made my point...




You can all get back to going gooey over Tiddles now.
Nerd.
Oh no! I'm being bullied online!

Whoever will save poor me? rolleyes




To MBBlat: For all the negative things I've said about cats, I'm very sorry to hear of the loss of Archimedes. Genuinely I am. It's never a pleasant experience to lose a pet, but when they grow old with us we at least have time to prepare ourselves for the inevitable.

I cannot hide the fact that I'm no cat lover, but I'd never wish harm on any of them.

SuperDude

2,348 posts

121 months

Sunday 13th April 2014
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yellowjack said:
Oh no! I'm being bullied online!

Whoever will save poor me? rolleyes
Haha. You're one of those, too?

Didn't you just get all the luck in life.

CR6ZZ

1,313 posts

144 months

Sunday 13th April 2014
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Sorry to hear MBBlat. Commiserations. frown

Catweazle

1,125 posts

141 months

Sunday 13th April 2014
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yellowjack said:
Oh no! I'm being bullied online!

Whoever will save poor me? rolleyes




To MBBlat: For all the negative things I've said about cats, I'm very sorry to hear of the loss of Archimedes. Genuinely I am. It's never a pleasant experience to lose a pet, but when they grow old with us we at least have time to prepare ourselves for the inevitable.

I cannot hide the fact that I'm no cat lover, but I'd never wish harm on any of them.
Good man. Dogs are pack hunters so they will always look for approval from their pack leader before they kill. Cats are solitary hunters, this is why you cannot train cats not to hunt.

Asterix

24,438 posts

227 months

Monday 14th April 2014
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MBBlat said:
Lost my male kitten Archi (short for Archimedes) yesterday, run over on the road outside my house
Looking over the bainister by MBBlat, on Flickr
frown

Only 9 months old which is far too young
frown

irocfan

40,152 posts

189 months

Monday 14th April 2014
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Asterix said:
MBBlat said:
Lost my male kitten Archi (short for Archimedes) yesterday, run over on the road outside my house
Looking over the bainister by MBBlat, on Flickr
frown

Only 9 months old which is far too young
frown
and another frown

funkyrobot

18,789 posts

227 months

Monday 14th April 2014
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irocfan said:
Asterix said:
MBBlat said:
Lost my male kitten Archi (short for Archimedes) yesterday, run over on the road outside my house
Looking over the bainister by MBBlat, on Flickr
frown

Only 9 months old which is far too young
frown
and another frown
Oh dear. frown

lenats31

438 posts

172 months

Monday 14th April 2014
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MBBlat said:
Lost my male kitten Archi (short for Archimedes) yesterday, run over on the road outside my house
Looking over the bainister by MBBlat, on Flickr
frown

Only 9 months old which is far too young
Very sorry for your losscry

GarryDK

5,670 posts

157 months

Monday 14th April 2014
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MBBlat said:
Lost my male kitten Archi (short for Archimedes) yesterday, run over on the road outside my house
Looking over the bainister by MBBlat, on Flickr
frown

Only 9 months old which is far too young
poor little thing frown

mike80

2,248 posts

215 months

Monday 14th April 2014
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We went to visit this little chap on Saturday, should be moving in with us next month!


ali_kat

31,988 posts

220 months

Monday 14th April 2014
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MBBlat said:
Lost my male kitten Archi (short for Archimedes) yesterday, run over on the road outside my house
Looking over the bainister by MBBlat, on Flickr
frown

Only 9 months old which is far too young
It is FAR too young frown

Sorry for your loss frown
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